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Your sex life.

So recently I got into a heated Facebook discussion with a fervent feminist that wants people to sign a petition to actively try and ban the new 50 Shades Of Grey movie, because apparently it endorses rape and encourages women to get into "hard-core BDSM". I basically pointed out that although the source material is an abysmal piece of writing, and as much as you disagree with what the movie is trying to convey, it isn't your prerogative to try and censor art/information simply because it doesn't sit well with you. I also highlighted that little to no evidence suggests that media or art influences an individual's behaviour. She kind of flipped her shit and what ensues is 100% pure retardation. Bit of a long read ahead:

Me: I always find it hilarious when people try to conflate reality with art and entertainment. And I use the word 'art' to describe 50 Shades very loosely. Idiots going to idiot.

Her: Nice... Art is a product of the society we live in - the fact that a novel about a man abusing a naive woman has been so popular is a reflection of the trivialisation and romanticisation of the reality that many people actually face. Many people after reading the book or seeing the film will want to experiment with bdsm and its only fair that they're warned that how it is portrayed in the book is unhealthy and abusive.

Me: There's absolutely no evidence to suggest titillating or provocative art impacts people's behaviour. If people are into BDSM then they're into BDSM. A movie isn't going to suddenly realign their sexual orientation.

Her: As I said, I didn't even talk about the fact that its glamourising abuse, but that its portraying BDSM as a community to be that of an abusive one. Its saying that rape and drugging girls to do what you want is how BDSM, D/s relationships work and it isn't. People will read it and clearly enjoy it and will go attempt to get involved in a BDSM community only to fall prey to someone with bad intentions.

It is a terrible book in that it is portraying utter lies as facts and because people don't know any different they don't attempt to question it. One of my friends read the book and asked me if I liked to be drugged, used and abused and practically raped, saying that whatever I involve myself in is stupid, dangerous, rapey and totally ridiculous, that I was being used and they lectured me on something they know nothing about.

This book took popular media by storm and it is utter lies. That's what pisses me off. You don't watch a movie of people being murdered and think 'that looks great I want to murder people' but some people will read or watch this and see the abuse as BDSM, sexualised and may put themselves in a position to become used and hurt and will start accepting it where it is wrong.

It isn't boosting a signal on domestic violence.

Its sexualizing it, giving it a false name and making people like me who rely on trust and safety look reckless and like we are idiots allowing ourselves to be used by men. He made her sign a contract as a virgin, ignores her safe words, starts to fear him and hide things from him, he uses alcohol to sway her and rapes her.

... Then everyone says wow Omfg hot I love BDSM when it isn't fckn BDSM at all.

I'm done. Defend it all you want, its not calling a spade a spade and is setting a lot of curious innocent naive girls up for a downfall.

Me: I'd just like to remind you that the book was written by a woman, marketed towards women, and the majority of the reader base are also funnily enough, women. It's not some ethereal patriarchal conspiracy constructed by men so they can rape women more easily, or whatever kind of ludicrous narrative you're going for. Is it really indicative that these women are actively seeking to trivialize abuse against their gender by endorsing a sexually provocative book, or is more probable that they simply enjoy the art form and want to fully immerse themselves in their sexual desires? I think it's obvious the latter is more accurate, but whatever keeps the feminist delusional cogs whirring.

Also, the whole "if you watch/read/listen to this piece of art, you're more likely to commit X" is a fucking retarded argument. It's the exact same kind of argument that school gate mums use to try and get violent videogames banned. "GTA V makes my son want to kill prostitutes!" No, you're just a shitty parent that relies too much on appeal to emotions to get what you want instead of using actual Empirical evidence.

Daily reminder that these people are the new fascists.

Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams.

Sauron is like the archetypal evil overlord. He's got massive armies of orcs. He has a headquarters made of volcanoes. And, he did... you know, he did all of those... things. And... And what exactly? Do tell me, because throughout the entire 2000-hour run of the Lord Of The Rings trilogy, I couldn't find a single reason why everyone demonized Sauron like he was a Obama at a Tea Party rally.

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>you will never live the life he's had

Daily reminder for you faglords, this guy:

>was a friend of J.R.R Tolkien
>is a step cousin of Ian Fleming, the author of the Bond novels
>ancestors are of Roman heritage
>served in the SAS during WWII and probably killed a fuckton of Nazis
>has over 50 years experience in the film industry
>has played Dracula, a Bond villain, Count Dooku and Saruman
>continues to release fucking metal albums in his 90s

I'm going to bawl my fucking eyes out when he kicks the bucket.

He was never on the front lines.

He was actually. After the RAF he served in the precursor to the SAS. He also told Peter Jackson what a man sounds like being stabbed in the back, which helped add realism to the Grima Wormtongue/Saruman backstab scene in the Two Towers. He definitely has combat experience at least.

Oh.
Wasn't he also originally intended to play Gandalf too? I think I remember reading that somewhere.

He wanted to play Gandalf because it was his life long dream, but he was such a great sport he elected to play Saruman instead because he thought McKellen was a better Gandalf. That's how much of a legend he is.

>you will never live the life he's had

Daily reminder for you faglords, this guy:

>was a friend of J.R.R Tolkien
>is a step cousin of Ian Fleming, the author of the Bond novels
>ancestors are of Roman heritage
>served in the SAS during WWII and probably killed a fuckton of Nazis
>has over 50 years experience in the film industry
>has played Dracula, a Bond villain, Count Dooku and Saruman
>continues to release fucking metal albums in his 90s

I'm going to bawl my fucking eyes out when he kicks the bucket.

Yeah we know. Fallout NV is perferction incarnate and Fallout 3 is literally devil spawn. How many threads do we have to have on this?

Did you pick any race aside from norn?

Well do I have news for you.

I mean, I hate those fucking disgusting inferior pointy-eared vermin more than anyone, but the orcs and argonians are pretty cool guys once you get to know them, and bretons are objectively the best race despite their blood being contaminated by elfin filth.

>implying The Stormcloaks are anywhere near as xenophobic as The Thalmor.

Sure, they're not welcoming the entirety of Tamriel's inhabitants with open arms, but you can't really blame their distrust of Elves given what the Thalmor did to the Nords. Besides, they're actually pretty nondiscriminatory if a candidate is willing to prove themselves for their cause irregardless of race (which is also kind of a gameplay factor to be fair but eh), unlike The Thalmor where non-Elves are viewed as subhuman regardless of merit.

Without referring to them as "racist assholes"

>implying you wouldn't hate the people that outlawed your religion and would have your entire race eradicated in a heartbeat
>implying an independent Skyrim isn't a good thing
>implying The Empire have the moral high ground
>implying The Empire are anything other than puppets for The Thalmor
>implying The Empire is a credible threat to The Thalmor
>implying Ulfric isn't the hero Skyrim deserves

I disagree with whatever the shit people say about the Imperials in Skyrim.

What in the fuck did they do wrong other than fight the Aldmeri Dominion to a standstill by their fucking selves?
So what they outlawed Talos worship. Do you seriously think they actually support that?

It's all temporary measures.

>implying the Imperial Legion was ever a credible threat to the Aldmeri Dominion and not just a pain in the ass

The only reason the White Gold Concordat was agreed to was because the Thalmor couldn't be arsed pouring the time, effort and money into completely eradicating The Empire. They've had the Legion under their thumb this whole time.

I'm content with one night stands at the moment.

GOAT soundtrack coming through

lol is this about that TLoU thread?

That and the amount of shitposting that goes on.