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Anyway, OT, so the guy's a looney, who cares? Crazy people do crazy shit. I mean it's asinine and all, but, like, fuck, it's fucking 2015. Yeah, homophobia is bad and all, but it's going down the drain fast in the west. The fact that we can all agree it's asinine is reason enough not to worry about it. This shit just turns into a circlejerk of disgust and it's really boring.
it's a FUCKTON more interesting than the gamergate meme
>parroting "DAS SO H0M0FOBIC" back and forth
>interesting

Yeah, we get it. He's a piece of shit. How many threads do we have to have on homophobia anyway? 99% of the forum already agrees that it's reprehensible. It's lost its discussion value. Not that there was anything to discuss in the first place other than the backwater hicks spouting this shit, which we all agree are retards.
>parroting GG IS A BIG DEAL AND WE HATE WOMEN
>interesring
>shilling for the media

good goyim

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The Flood / Re: OFFICIAL TV POWER RANKINGS
« on: March 03, 2015, 08:33:32 PM »

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The Flood / OFFICIAL TV POWER RANKINGS
« on: March 03, 2015, 08:30:48 PM »
True Patrician tier:
-The Sopranos
-The Wire
-Rome

Great tier:
-True Detective
-Breaking Bad
-Game Of Thrones
-Fargo
-Boardwalk Empire

Decent tier:
-Mad Men
-Sons Of Anarchy
-Hannibal

Meh tier:
-House Of Cards
-Arrow
-The Flash

Shit tier:
-The Walking Pleb
-Ray Donovan
-American Horror Story
-Dexter
-In fact pretty much all of AMC's exclusives

Holy fucking christ this should fall on the autism spectrum tier:
-Glee
-Orange Is The New Black
-Da Vinci's Demons

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YouTube

I'm inclined to agree. Most of my peers and friends definitely seem to place a higher value on progressiveness, equality and the censorship of opposing ideals they consider "damaging", as opposed to free expression, self evaluation and critical thinking. Now, I only have anecdotal evidence on my behalf, so I could be talking out my ass on this one, but in Britain at least, there definitely seems to be an ingrained politically correct culture that has come into fruition over the past couple decades.

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The Flood / Re: what colour is this dress?
« on: March 03, 2015, 07:36:27 PM »

what colour is this dress?

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The Flood / Re: How sexist are you? Time to find out!
« on: March 03, 2015, 07:15:28 PM »
>sexism test
>only revolves around the prejudice of women

Yeah, because sexism only encompasses women right enough. Dropped.

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Reality TV and junk food soap operas.

Oh yeah, TOWIE, Made In Chelsea, Geordie Shore and all that other IQ lowering excrement needs to be fucking eviscerated too.

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Anyway, OT, so the guy's a looney, who cares? Crazy people do crazy shit. I mean it's asinine and all, but, like, fuck, it's fucking 2015. Yeah, homophobia is bad and all, but it's going down the drain fast in the west. The fact that we can all agree it's asinine is reason enough not to worry about it. This shit just turns into a circlejerk of disgust and it's really boring.
it's a FUCKTON more interesting than the gamergate meme
>parroting "DAS SO H0M0FOBIC" back and forth
>interesting

Yeah, we get it. He's a piece of shit. How many threads do we have to have on homophobia anyway? 99% of the forum already agrees that it's reprehensible. It's lost its discussion value. Not that there was anything to discuss in the first place other than the backwater hicks spouting this shit, which we all agree are retards.

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Serious / Re: UK child sexual abuse reaches unprecedented scale
« on: March 03, 2015, 04:46:09 PM »
The Germans are starting to draw lines in the sand with the Islam and immigration thing. The "You're a Nazi!" accusation isn't working because the Germans are telling people it's been 70 years and that's over and done. Don't be surprised if some of the closer German allies like France start following suit.
>Germany and France
>outlawed holocaust denial
>no longer fascists

Yeah idk about that. They definitely seem to be heading in the right direction with the handling of Islam but there's still some skeletons in their closet they need to address.

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The Flood / Re: HAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT
« on: March 03, 2015, 04:41:23 PM »
I

AM

IN A WORLD

OF SHIT

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The Flood / Re: Fourth Tragic Death of 2015
« on: March 03, 2015, 12:36:17 PM »
RIP in peace Halo lore.

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Serious / UK child sexual abuse reaches unprecedented scale
« on: March 03, 2015, 11:42:53 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31708492
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31691061
When are we going to bite the fucking bullet and realise that the majority of these cases are being perpetrated by men of a Pakistani heritage? Can we please get over this paralyzing fear of being labeled "racist" so we can actually bring these scumfucks to justice and the people who swept it under the rug?

Fuck man, when did Britain become such a pussified culture.

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Serious / Re: We're winning #GG
« on: March 03, 2015, 10:37:09 AM »
For all those into this argument, I have a question; has the game industry actually gotten any better since it started?
As was aforementioned, notorious sites like Gawker and Kotaku have lost millions in ad revenue due to GG boycotts, as well as a myriad of other sites like PC Gamer who have updated their code of ethics and Escapist going pro GG. Obviously it's nigh impossible to completely eradicate corrupt journalistic practices within the gaming industry and journalism as a whole, but slowly and surely, we're eroding their bullshit.

On a side note certain GG members have also been responsible for setting up various charities and patreons for minorities, as well as a twitter patrol to lock down, report and curtail harassment directed at anyone.

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The Flood / Re: So this is Frieza's new form
« on: March 03, 2015, 07:49:37 AM »
Looks like an Oscar lol

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Gaming / Re: So I re-played Halo CE for the first time in 10 years
« on: March 03, 2015, 07:33:48 AM »
lol HCEIDF in full force today I see.

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:38:37 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

>IMPLYING
are you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?

What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
"hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"

No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.

>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOL

You could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
That's not even a relevant analogy.

You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.

Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.

Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills

>Using Kinder as an insult

Now I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.
Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.

Turn your fucking brain on.

Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ON

I'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?
>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"

Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.
If you can't comprehend my point then that's not my problem.
Takes two to tango.

Twerk it bby
fuk off gook

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:37:17 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

>IMPLYING
are you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?

What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
"hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"

No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.

>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOL

You could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
That's not even a relevant analogy.

You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.

Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.

Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills

>Using Kinder as an insult

Now I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.
Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.

Turn your fucking brain on.

Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ON

I'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?
>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"

Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.
If you can't comprehend my point then that's not my problem.
Takes two to tango.

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:34:46 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

>IMPLYING
are you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?

What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
"hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"

No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.

>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOL

You could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
That's not even a relevant analogy.

You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.

Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.

Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills

>Using Kinder as an insult

Now I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.
Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.

Turn your fucking brain on.

Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ON

I'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?
>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"

Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:26:01 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

>IMPLYING
are you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?

What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
"hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"

No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.

>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOL

You could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
That's not even a relevant analogy.

You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.

Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.

Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills

>Using Kinder as an insult

Now I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.
Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.

Turn your fucking brain on.

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

>IMPLYING
are you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?

What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
"hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"

No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.

>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOL

You could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
That's not even a relevant analogy.

You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.

Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

>IMPLYING
are you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?

What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
"hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"

No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

>IMPLYING
are you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

>IMPLYING

I've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel any better.

"b-but muh pro choice"

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Serious / Re: CA expected to pass vaccination law
« on: March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PM »
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said.

Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.

>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness

No, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.

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The Flood / Re: Convince me not to
« on: March 02, 2015, 05:50:28 PM »
>sep7 giving fashion advice

lesmugpepeface.avi

If you were going for the Mexican gardener look go for it OP.

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The Flood / Re: Guys, have you watched the news recently?
« on: March 02, 2015, 05:32:16 PM »
A meme (/ˈmiːm/ meem)[1] is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture".[2] A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures.[3]

The word meme is a shortening (modeled on gene) of mimeme (from Ancient Greek μίμημα pronounced [míːmɛːma] mīmēma, "imitated thing", from μιμεῖσθαι mimeisthai, "to imitate", from μῖμος mimos, "mime")[4] coined by British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene (1976)[1][5] as a concept for discussion of evolutionary principles in explaining the spread of ideas and cultural phenomena. Examples of memes given in the book included melodies, catch-phrases, fashion, and the technology of building arches.[6]

Proponents theorize that memes are a viral phenomenon that may evolve by natural selection in a manner analogous to that of biological evolution. Memes do this through the processes of variation, mutation, competition, and inheritance, each of which influences a meme's reproductive success. Memes spread through the behavior that they generate in their hosts. Memes that propagate less prolifically may become extinct, while others may survive, spread, and (for better or for worse) mutate. Memes that replicate most effectively enjoy more success, and some may replicate effectively even when they prove to be detrimental to the welfare of their hosts.[7]

A field of study called memetics[8] arose in the 1990s to explore the concepts and transmission of memes in terms of an evolutionary model. Criticism from a variety of fronts has challenged the notion that academic study can examine memes empirically. However, developments in neuroimaging may make empirical study possible.[9] Some commentators in the social sciences question the idea that one can meaningfully categorize culture in terms of discrete units, and are especially critical of the biological nature of the theory's underpinnings.[10] Others have argued that this use of the term is the result of a misunderstanding of the original proposal.[11]

Dawkins's own position is somewhat ambiguous: he obviously welcomed N. K. Humphrey's suggestion that "memes should be considered as living structures, not just metaphorically"[12] and wanted to regard memes as "physically residing in the brain".[13] Later, he argued that his original intentions, presumably before his approval of Humphrey's opinion, had been simpler.[14] At the New Directors' Showcase 2013 in Cannes, Dawkins' opinion on memetics was deliberately ambiguous.[15]

Contents

    1 Origins
    2 Memetic lifecycle: Transmission, retention
    3 Memes as discrete units
    4 Evolutionary influences on memes
    5 Memetics
    6 Criticism of meme theory
    7 Applications
    8 Religion
    9 Memetic explanations of racism
    10 Architectural memes
    11 Internet culture
    12 Meme maps
    13 See also
    14 Notes
    15 References
    16 External links

Origins
Richard Dawkins coined the word meme in his 1976 book The Selfish Gene.

The word meme originated with Richard Dawkins' 1976 book The Selfish Gene. Dawkins cites as inspiration the work of geneticist L. L. Cavalli-Sforza, anthropologist F. T. Cloak [16] and ethologist J. M. Cullen.[17] Dawkins wrote that evolution depended not on the particular chemical basis of genetics, but only on the existence of a self-replicating unit of transmission — in the case of biological evolution, the gene. For Dawkins, the meme exemplified another self-replicating unit with potential significance in explaining human behavior and cultural evolution.
"Kilroy was here" was a graffito that became popular in the 1940s, and existed under various names in different countries, illustrating how a meme can be modified through replication.[18]

Dawkins used the term to refer to any cultural entity that an observer might consider a replicator. He hypothesised that one could view many cultural entities as replicators, and pointed to melodies, fashions and learned skills as examples. Memes generally replicate through exposure to humans, who have evolved as efficient copiers of information and behaviour. Because humans do not always copy memes perfectly, and because they may refine, combine or otherwise modify them with other memes to create new memes, they can change over time. Dawkins likened the process by which memes survive and change through the evolution of culture to the natural selection of genes in biological evolution.[6]

Dawkins defined the meme as a unit of cultural transmission, or a unit of imitation and replication, but later definitions would vary. The lack of a consistent, rigorous, and precise understanding of what typically makes up one unit of cultural transmission remains a problem in debates about memetics.[14] In contrast, the concept of genetics gained concrete evidence with the discovery of the biological functions of DNA. Meme transmission requires a physical medium, such as photons, sound waves, touch, taste or smell because memes can be transmitted only through the senses.
Memetic lifecycle: Transmission, retention
See also: Diffusion of innovations

Memes, analogously to genes, vary in their aptitude to replicate; successful memes remain and spread, whereas unfit ones stall and are forgotten. Thus memes that prove more effective at replicating and surviving are selected in the meme pool.

Memes first need retention. The longer a meme stays in its hosts, the higher its chances of propagation are. When a host uses a meme, the meme's life is extended.[19] The reuse of the neural space hosting a certain meme's copy to host different memes is the greatest threat to that meme's copy.[20]

A meme which increases the longevity of its hosts will generally survive longer. On the contrary, a meme which shortens the longevity of its hosts will tend to disappear faster. However, as hosts are mortal, retention is not sufficient to perpetuate a meme in the long term; memes also need transmission.

Life-forms can transmit information both vertically (from parent to child, via replication of genes) and horizontally (through viruses and other means). Memes can replicate vertically or horizontally within a single biological generation. They may also lie dormant for long periods of time.

Memes reproduce by copying from a nervous system to another one, either by communication or imitation. Imitation often involves the copying of an observed behaviour of another individual. Communication may be direct or indirect, where memes transmit from one individual to another through a copy recorded in an inanimate source, such as a book or a musical score. Adam McNamara has suggested that memes can be thereby classified as either internal or external memes (i-memes or e-memes).[9]

Some commentators have likened the transmission of memes to the spread of contagions.[21] Social contagions such as fads, hysteria, copycat crime, and copycat suicide exemplify memes seen as the contagious imitation of ideas. Observers distinguish the contagious imitation of memes from instinctively contagious phenomena such as yawning and laughing, which they consider innate (rather than socially learned) behaviors.[22]

Aaron Lynch described seven general patterns of meme transmission, or "thought contagion":[23]

    Quantity of parenthood: an idea that influences the number of children one has. Children respond particularly receptively to the ideas of their parents, and thus ideas that directly or indirectly encourage a higher birthrate will replicate themselves at a higher rate than those that discourage higher birthrates.
    Efficiency of parenthood: an idea that increases the proportion of children who will adopt ideas of their parents. Cultural separatism exemplifies one practice in which one can expect a higher rate of meme-replication—because the meme for separation creates a barrier from exposure to competing ideas.
    Proselytic: ideas generally passed to others beyond one's own children. Ideas that encourage the proselytism of a meme, as seen in many religious or political movements, can replicate memes horizontally through a given generation, spreading more rapidly than parent-to-child meme-transmissions do.
    Preservational: ideas that influence those that hold them to continue to hold them for a long time. Ideas that encourage longevity in their hosts, or leave their hosts particularly resistant to abandoning or replacing these ideas, enhance the preservability of memes and afford protection from the competition or proselytism of other memes.
    Adversative: ideas that influence those that hold them to attack or sabotage competing ideas and/or those that hold them. Adversative replication can give an advantage in meme transmission when the meme itself encourages aggression against other memes.
    Cognitive: ideas perceived as cogent by most in the population who encounter them. Cognitively transmitted memes depend heavily on a cluster of other ideas and cognitive traits already widely held in the population, and thus usually spread more passively than other forms of meme transmission. Memes spread in cognitive transmission do not count as self-replicating.
    Motivational: ideas that people adopt because they perceive some self-interest in adopting them. Strictly speaking, motivationally transmitted memes do not self-propagate, but this mode of transmission often occurs in association with memes self-replicated in the efficiency parental, proselytic and preservational modes.

Memes as discrete units

Dawkins initially defined meme as a noun that "conveys the idea of a unit of cultural transmission, or a unit of imitation".[6] John S. Wilkins retained the notion of meme as a kernel of cultural imitation while emphasizing the meme's evolutionary aspect, defining the meme as "the least unit of sociocultural information relative to a selection process that has favourable or unfavourable selection bias that exceeds its endogenous tendency to change".[24] The meme as a unit provides a convenient means of discussing "a piece of thought copied from person to person", regardless of whether that thought contains others inside it, or forms part of a larger meme. A meme could consist of a single word, or a meme could consist of the entire speech in which that word first occurred. This forms an analogy to the idea of a gene as a single unit of self-replicating information found on the self-replicating chromosome.

While the identification of memes as "units" conveys their nature to replicate as discrete, indivisible entities, it does not imply that thoughts somehow become quantized or that "atomic" ideas exist that cannot be dissected into smaller pieces. A meme has no given size. Susan Blackmore writes that melodies from Beethoven’s symphonies are commonly used to illustrate the difficulty involved in delimiting memes as discrete units. She notes that while the first four notes of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony (About this sound listen (help·info)) form a meme widely replicated as an independent unit, one can regard the entire symphony as a single meme as well.[14]

The inability to pin an idea or cultural feature to quantifiable key units is widely acknowledged as a problem for memetics. It has been argued however that the traces of memetic processing can be quantified utilizing neuroimaging techniques which measure changes in the connectivity profiles between brain regions."[9] Blackmore meets such criticism by stating that memes compare with genes in this respect: that while a gene has no particular size, nor can we ascribe every phenotypic feature directly to a particular gene, it has value because it encapsulates that key unit of inherited expression subject to evolutionary pressures. To illustrate, she notes evolution selects for the gene for features such as eye color; it does not select for the individual nucleotide in a strand of DNA. Memes play a comparable role in understanding the evolution of imitated behaviors.[14]

The 1981 book Genes, Mind, and Culture: The Coevolutionary Process by Charles J. Lumsden and E. O. Wilson proposed the theory that genes and culture co-evolve, and that the fundamental biological units of culture must correspond to neuronal networks that function as nodes of semantic memory. They coined their own word, "culturgen", which did not catch on. Coauthor Wilson later acknowledged the term meme as the best label for the fundamental unit of cultural inheritance in his 1998 book Consilience: The Unity of Knowledge, which elaborates upon the fundamental role of memes in unifying the natural and social sciences.[25]
Evolutionary influences on memes

Dawkins noted the three conditions that must exist for evolution to occur:[26]

    variation, or the introduction of new change to existing elements;
    heredity or replication, or the capacity to create copies of elements;
    differential "fitness", or the opportunity for one element to be more or less suited to the environment than another.

Dawkins emphasizes that the process of evolution naturally occurs whenever these conditions co-exist, and that evolution does not apply only to organic elements such as genes. He regards memes as also having the properties necessary for evolution, and thus sees meme evolution as not simply analogous to genetic evolution, but as a real phenomenon subject to the laws of natural selection. Dawkins noted that as various ideas pass from one generation to the next, they may either enhance or detract from the survival of the people who obtain those ideas, or influence the survival of the ideas themselves. For example, a certain culture may develop unique designs and methods of tool-making that give it a competitive advantage over another culture. Each tool-design thus acts somewhat similarly to a biological gene in that some populations have it and others do not, and the meme's function directly affects the presence of the design in future generations. In keeping with the thesis that in evolution one can regard organisms simply as suitable "hosts" for reproducing genes, Dawkins argues that one can view people as "hosts" for replicating memes. Consequently, a successful meme may or may not need to provide any benefit to its host.[26]

Unlike genetic evolution, memetic evolution can show both Darwinian and Lamarckian traits. Cultural memes will have the characteristic of Lamarckian inheritance when a host aspires to replicate the given meme through inference rather than by exactly copying it. Take for example the case of the transmission of a simple skill such as hammering a nail, a skill that a learner imitates from watching a demonstration without necessarily imitating every discrete movement modeled by the teacher in the demonstration, stroke for stroke.[27] Susan Blackmore distinguishes the difference between the two modes of inheritance in the evolution of memes, characterizing the Darwinian mode as "copying the instructions" and the Lamarckian as "copying the product."[14]

Clusters of memes, or memeplexes (also known as meme complexes or as memecomplexes), such as cultural or political doctrines and systems, may also play a part in the acceptance of new memes. Memeplexes comprise groups of memes that replicate together and coadapt.[14] Memes that fit within a successful memeplex may gain acceptance by "piggybacking" on the success of the memeplex. As an example, John D. Gottsch discusses the transmission, mutation and selection of religious memeplexes and the theistic memes contained.[28] Theistic memes discussed include the "prohibition of aberrant sexual practices such as incest, adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, castration, and religious prostitution", which may have increased vertical transmission of the parent religious memeplex. Similar memes are thereby included in the majority of religious memeplexes, and harden over time; they become an "inviolable canon" or set of dogmas, eventually finding their way into secular law. This could also be referred to as the propagation of a taboo.
Memetics
Main article: Memetics

The discipline of memetics, which dates from the mid-1980s, provides an approach to evolutionary models of cultural information transfer based on the concept of the meme. Memeticists have proposed that just as memes function analogously to genes, memetics functions analogously to genetics. Memetics attempts to apply conventional scientific methods (such as those used in population genetics and epidemiology) to explain existing patterns and transmission of cultural ideas.

Principal criticisms of memetics include the claim that memetics ignores established advances in other fields of cultural study, such as sociology, cultural anthropology, cognitive psychology, and social psychology. Questions remain whether or not the meme concept counts as a validly disprovable scientific theory. This view regards memetics as a theory in its infancy: a protoscience to proponents, or a pseudoscience to some detractors.
Criticism of meme theory

An objection to the study of the evolution of memes in genetic terms (although not to the existence of memes) involves a perceived gap in the gene/meme analogy: the cumulative evolution of genes depends on biological selection-pressures neither too great nor too small in relation to mutation-rates. There seems no reason to think that the same balance will exist in the selection pressures on memes.[29]

Luis Benitez-Bribiesca M.D., a critic of memetics, calls the theory a "pseudoscientific dogma" and "a dangerous idea that poses a threat to the serious study of consciousness and cultural evolution". As a factual criticism, Benitez-Bribiesca points to the lack of a "code script" for memes (analogous to the DNA of genes), and to the excessive instability of the meme mutation mechanism (that of an idea going from one brain to another), which would lead to a low replication accuracy and a high mutation rate, rendering the evolutionary process chaotic.[30]

British political philosopher John Gray has characterized Dawkins' memetic theory of religion as "nonsense" and "not even a theory... the latest in a succession of ill-judged Darwinian metaphors", comparable to Intelligent Design in its value as a science.[31]

Another critique comes from semiotic theorists such as Deacon[32] and Kull.[33] This view regards the concept of "meme" as a primitivized concept of "sign". The meme is thus described in memetics as a sign lacking a triadic nature. Semioticians can regard a meme as a "degenerate" sign, which includes only its ability of being copied. Accordingly, in the broadest sense, the objects of copying are memes, whereas the objects of translation and interpretation are signs.[clarification needed]

Fracchia and Lewontin regard memetics as reductionist and inadequate.[34] Evolutionary biologist Ernst Mayr disapproved of Dawkins' gene-based view and usage of the term "meme," asserting it to be an "unnecessary synonym" for "concept," Mayr reasoning that concepts are not restricted to an individual or a generation, may persist for long periods of time, and may evolve.[35]
Applications

Opinions differ as to how best to apply the concept of memes within a "proper" disciplinary framework. One view sees memes as providing a useful philosophical perspective with which to examine cultural evolution. Proponents of this view (such as Susan Blackmore and Daniel Dennett) argue that considering cultural developments from a meme's-eye view—as if memes themselves respond to pressure to maximise their own replication and survival—can lead to useful insights and yield valuable predictions into how culture develops over time. Others such as Bruce Edmonds and Robert Aunger have focused on the need to provide an empirical grounding for memetics to become a useful and respected scientific discipline.[36][37]

A third approach, described[by whom?] as "radical memetics", seeks to place memes at the centre of a materialistic theory of mind and of personal identity.[38]

Prominent researchers in evolutionary psychology and anthropology, including Scott Atran, Dan Sperber, Pascal Boyer, John Tooby and others, argue the possibility of incompatibility between modularity of mind and memetics.[citation needed] In their view, minds structure certain communicable aspects of the ideas produced, and these communicable aspects generally trigger or elicit ideas in other minds through inference (to relatively rich structures generated from often low-fidelity input) and not high-fidelity replication or imitation. Atran discusses communication involving religious beliefs as a case in point. In one set of experiments he asked religious people to write down on a piece of paper the meanings of the Ten Commandments. Despite the subjects' own expectations of consensus, interpretations of the commandments showed wide ranges of variation, with little evidence of consensus. In another experiment, subjects with autism and subjects without autism interpreted ideological and religious sayings (for example, "Let a thousand flowers bloom" or "To everything there is a season"). People with autism showed a significant tendency to closely paraphrase and repeat content from the original statement (for example: "Don't cut flowers before they bloom"). Controls tended to infer a wider range of cultural meanings with little replicated content (for example: "Go with the flow" or "Everyone should have equal opportunity"). Only the subjects with autism—who lack the degree of inferential capacity normally associated with aspects of theory of mind—came close to functioning as "meme machines".[39]

In his book The Robot's Rebellion, Stanovich uses the memes and memeplex concepts to describe a program of cognitive reform that he refers to as a "rebellion". Specifically, Stanovich argues that the use of memes as a descriptor for cultural units is beneficial because it serves to emphasize transmission and acquisition properties that parallel the study of epidemiology. These properties make salient the sometimes parasitic nature of acquired memes, and as a result individuals should be motivated to reflectively acquire memes using what he calls a "Neurathian bootstrap" process.[40]
Religion
See also: Evolutionary psychology of religion

Although social scientists such as Max Weber sought to understand and explain religion in terms of a cultural attribute, Richard Dawkins called for a re-analysis of religion in terms of the evolution of self-replicating ideas apart from any resulting biological advantages they might bestow.

    As an enthusiastic Darwinian, I have been dissatisfied with explanations that my fellow-enthusiasts have offered for human behaviour. They have tried to look for 'biological advantages' in various attributes of human civilization. For instance, tribal religion has been seen as a mechanism for solidifying group identity, valuable for a pack-hunting species whose individuals rely on cooperation to catch large and fast prey. Frequently the evolutionary preconception in terms of which such theories are framed is implicitly group-selectionist, but it is possible to rephrase the theories in terms of orthodox gene selection.
    —Richard Dawkins, The Selfish Gene

He argued that the role of key replicator in cultural evolution belongs not to genes, but to memes replicating thought from person to person by means of imitation. These replicators respond to selective pressures that may or may not affect biological reproduction or survival.[6]

In her book The Meme Machine, Susan Blackmore regards religions as particularly tenacious memes. Many of the features common to the most widely practiced religions provide built-in advantages in an evolutionary context, she writes. For example, religions that preach of the value of faith over evidence from everyday experience or reason inoculate societies against many of the most basic tools people commonly use to evaluate their ideas. By linking altruism with religious affiliation, religious memes can proliferate more quickly because people perceive that they can reap societal as well as personal rewards. The longevity of religious memes improves with their documentation in revered religious texts.[14]

Aaron Lynch attributed the robustness of religious memes in human culture to the fact that such memes incorporate multiple modes of meme transmission. Religious memes pass down the generations from parent to child and across a single generation through the meme-exchange of proselytism. Most people will hold the religion taught them by their parents throughout their life. Many religions feature adversarial elements, punishing apostasy, for instance, or demonizing infidels. In Thought Contagion Lynch identifies the memes of transmission in Christianity as especially powerful in scope. Believers view the conversion of non-believers both as a religious duty and as an act of altruism. The promise of heaven to believers and threat of hell to non-believers provide a strong incentive for members to retain their belief. Lynch asserts that belief in the Crucifixion of Jesus in Christianity amplifies each of its other replication advantages through the indebtedness believers have to their Savior for sacrifice on the cross. The image of the crucifixion recurs in religious sacraments, and the proliferation of symbols of the cross in homes and churches potently reinforces the wide array of Christian memes.[23]

Although religious memes have proliferated in human cultures, the modern scientific community has been relatively resistant to religious belief. Robertson (2007) [41] reasoned that if evolution is accelerated in conditions of propagative difficulty,[42] then we would expect to encounter variations of religious memes, established in general populations, addressed to scientific communities. Using a memetic approach, Robertson deconstructed two attempts to privilege religiously held spirituality in scientific discourse. Advantages of a memetic approach as compared to more traditional "modernization" and "supply side" theses in understanding the evolution and propagation of religion were explored.
Memetic explanations of racism

In Cultural Software: A Theory of Ideology, Jack Balkin argued that memetic processes can explain many of the most familiar features of ideological thought. His theory of "cultural software" maintained that memes form narratives, social networks, metaphoric and metonymic models, and a variety of different mental structures. Balkin maintains that the same structures used to generate ideas about free speech or free markets also serve to generate racistic beliefs. To Balkin, whether memes become harmful or maladaptive depends on the environmental context in which they exist rather than in any special source or manner to their origination. Balkin describes racist beliefs as "fantasy" memes that become harmful or unjust "ideologies" when diverse peoples come together, as through trade or competition.[43]
Architectural memes

In A Theory of Architecture, Nikos Salingaros speaks of memes as "freely propagating clusters of information" which can be beneficial or harmful. He contrasts memes to patterns and true knowledge, characterizing memes as "greatly simplified versions of patterns" and as "unreasoned matching to some visual or mnemonic prototype".[44] Taking reference to Dawkins, Salingaros emphasizes that they can be transmitted due to their own communicative properties, that "the simpler they are, the faster they can proliferate", and that the most successful memes "come with a great psychological appeal".[45]

Architectural memes, according to Salingaros, can have destructive power. "Images portrayed in architectural magazines representing buildings that could not possibly accommodate everyday uses become fixed in our memory, so we reproduce them unconsciously."[46] He lists various architectural memes that circulated since the 1920s and which, in his view, have led to contemporary architecture becoming quite decoupled from human needs. They lack connection and meaning, thereby preventing "the creation of true connections necessary to our understanding of the world". He sees them as no different from antipatterns in software design – as solutions that are false but are re-utilized nonetheless.[47]
Internet culture
Main article: Internet meme
See also: List of Internet phenomena

An "Internet meme" is a concept that spreads rapidly from person to person via the Internet, largely through Internet-based E-mailing, blogs, forums, imageboards like 4chan, social networking sites like Facebook or Twitter, instant messaging, and video hosting services like YouTube.[48]

In 2013 Richard Dawkins characterized an Internet meme as one deliberately altered by human creativity, distinguished from Dawkins's original idea involving mutation by random change and a form of Darwinian selection.[49]
Meme maps

One technique of meme mapping represents the evolution and transmission of a meme across time and space.[50] Such a meme map uses a figure-8 diagram (an analemma) to map the gestation (in the lower loop), birth (at the choke point), and development (in the upper loop) of the selected meme. Such meme maps are nonscalar, with time mapped onto the y-axis and space onto the x-axis transect. One can read the temporal progression of the mapped meme from south to north on such a meme map. Paull has published a worked example using the "organics meme" (as in organic agriculture).[50]

Robertson (2010) [51] used a second technique of meme mapping to create two-dimensional representations of the selves of eleven participants drawn from both individualist and collectivist cultures. Participant narratives were transcribed, segmented and coded using a method similar to grounded theory. Coded segments exhibiting referent, connotative, affective and behavioral dimensions were declared to be memes. Memes that shared connotative, affective or behavioral qualities were linked. All of the maps in Robertson's sample evidenced volition, constancy, uniqueness, production, intimacy, and social interest. This method of mapping the self was successfully used in therapy to treat a youth who had attempted suicide on five occasions (Robertson 2011).[52] The youth and psychotherapist co-constructed a plan to change the youth's presenting self, and her progress in making those changes was tracked in subsequent self-maps.

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The Flood / Re: Fashion thread
« on: March 02, 2015, 05:23:52 PM »
My coat:


My shirt + standard black skinny jeans:


My shoes:

Am I /fa/ yet?

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>trying to find logic in a 2000 year old desert tome written by tribal scumfucks

c'mon max

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Gaming / Re: So I re-played Halo CE for the first time in 10 years
« on: March 02, 2015, 03:14:09 PM »
ITT: People thinking ODST is better than CE

YouTube

It is.

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Gaming / Re: So I re-played Halo CE for the first time in 10 years
« on: March 02, 2015, 02:37:29 PM »
"Halo CE is the best in the franchise" starter pack:

CE and ODST are the only canoe games in the series.
Fact.
ODST is a masterpiece but CE has not aged well at all. I'm happy to admit that it was revolutionary at the time, but it just doesn't hold up to contemporary gaming standards at all.

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