I'm doing damage control? I... well yes, on this particular point, but this hardly undermines the larger point of my argument. 52% is still something that shouldn't be ignored, and as far as I'm concerned, they make up the majority.

Agreed, but that's not the initial narrative you were trying to spin.

You answered your own question.

Please tell me how a 50/50 approval rating of Obama has anything to do with what we're talking about.

You're conveniently ignoring the fact that the war directly contributed to the modern incarnation of ISIS.

Sorry what? Please tell me how the Iraq War contributed to formation of ISIS in 1999?

I would prefer to stop continuing the policy of unnecessary interventions that have inevitably caused more problems than they solved. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, as you've clearly proven.

All these wars were aggravated on behalf of the Communist governments, not the US, especially the Bay Of Pigs seeing as how Cuba was fucking around with US oil and had strong ties to the Soviet Union.

But how about you go invade Iran and Palestine and Syria while you're at it? I haven't seen a solid explanation yet as to why those countries are somehow fundamentally different from Saddam's Iraq. (Hint: they're not)

Iran is a (relatively, and I emphasize relatively) stable middle eastern region, much more stable than Iraq during the early noughties, and I find it laughable that you would even try to draw a comparison between the two. Obviously it's got some tensions with the US regarding it's nukes, but from what I recall, Ahmadinejad didn't participate in ethnic cleansing, fucking around with oil (which would've effected the entire world economy) or try to annex Kuwait.

Palestine is barely even a sovereign nation anymore, no thanks to Hamas. I fail to see the relevancy between Palestine and Hussein controlled Iraq though.

Syria? The FSA is being supported by the US, I would like to add, although granted, the FSA aren't exactly angelic either. And again, Assad wasn't nearly doing half the shit Hussein committed. Internet surveillance, torture and secret police? Yeah, it's despicable shit, but in comparison to Hussein he's practically Nelson Mandela.

had to pause 3 times

where were you when bungie was kill?

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Quote from: S\ash on March 30, 2015, 01:05:18 PM

Holy shit, I'd be tempted to vote for them just based off of that

Further proof of how retarded you really are

Lol at least I've had sex with a woman, sperglord.

u should check out his mixtape tho

48% is a minority. Fractions.

No it's not. It's a minority in the sense of statistics, but in politics that's a substantial demographic.

It's like saying the outcome of the Scottish Independence referendum was a landslide for the No campaign simply because they won. It wasn't. 45% wanted independence. You can't just ignore that simply because it was a slightly smaller number.

All you're really doing here is taking the pedant route to try and damage control a source you fucked up on in a haphazard attempt to spin an incorrect narrative, and you're not exactly being inconspicuous about it either.

But this inane line of reasoning is like saying "America likes Obama." Yeah, um... no. That's hardly the case.

All your poll suggests is that half of Americans disapprove of Obama, and the other half approves. I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here.

Besides, the folks who don't like America are now the ones trying to wage jihad against it. You can't just ignore that the West created its own problems despite other lukewarm opinions towards it.

Jihad has been around even before America was established as a sovereign nation.

Honestly, what would you have preferred? A slowly but surely recovering post war nation, or an unchecked megalomaniacal dictator left to ran amok and do whatever he pleases with 20% of the world's oil? If you'd like to offer us a better alternative as to how we should've dealt with Hussein, then please, we're all ears.

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Quote from: Kupo on March 30, 2015, 09:58:10 AM

A majority of the Iraqi population says they feel worse off since the country was invaded. 'Welcomed' my ass.

Uh huh. From the article:

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Iraqis expressed concern about the departure of U.S. forces, but are nonetheless cautiously optimistic. Six in 10 Iraqis, said a report on the results, feared a possible civil war, partition of the country, outsized foreign influence by neighbors, terrorism, or economic woes. The concerns played into mixed Iraqi emotions

Nice distortion of the information being conveyed there. All that's really telling us is that the Iraqi population are apprehensive about the future, which is not the same as saying "they feel worse off."

In fact, an ACTUAL polling report suggests that 48% of the Iraqi population feel better off and 52% believe the economy was strong and security and sectarianism were getting better.

al-Baghdadi would like to have a word with you. But did you even read your own source? 48% is a minority, and either way it's hardly a uniform opinion.

Half the population is a minority? I think Mathematics would like a word with you.

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Modern academia really has let down an entire generation of disenfranchised young males. It's truly disgusting.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing an actual pay gap between the sexes, with males getting the short end of the stick not because of their personal lifestyle choices, but because our education system has totally and utterly failed them.

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Quote from: GethKhilafah on March 29, 2015, 05:15:28 PM

You know how easy it is to just use this as an excuse to disallow gays or minorities into your establishments, right?

So?

If you don't like it, be a responsible consumer and boycott the business.

That may not be an option. May communities are staunchly anti-LGBT and citizens may have to go miles and miles out of their way to find a business that they are comfortable doing business with.

Unless they're living in some backwater collection of a community like Sandtrap is, I'm pretty sure the majority of towns and cities have a general convenience store/supermarket that caters to everyone. Contrary to what you may believe, the majority of the US isn't the slave trade era South anymore.

Well, yeah there is, seeing as how you're the product of it.

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WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED

Do you support or condemn the US, UK and various other coalition allies that invaded Iraq in 2003?

I'm kind of mixed about it. On one hand the explanation Bush and Blair gave for invading Iraq was tenuous at best. All WMD's were either lost or destroyed during the Gulf War, so I kind of reconcile with the zeitgeist that it was a pretty pathetic reason to invade. On the other hand it toppled one of the most oppressive, totalitarian dictatorships of the decade, and if Saddam were to continue unchecked, I'm positive Iraq would've been astronomically off worse than it is today.

Quote from: Jester Thomas on March 29, 2015, 08:56:07 AM

>buying games you already own

>not paying for convenience

>paying for convenience