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« on: June 29, 2015, 08:13:29 PM »
What are you talking about?
Every facet of the media
and i'm not fucking talking about the media. I'm talking about congressmen lashing out during speeches and shit.
Do none of you fucks know how to read?
No max, the media isn't just the news its fucking everything.
Most particularly pop culture was what I was talking about.
And congressmen are supposed to lash out at the president when he fucks up, its literally their job.
not to his face, interrupting a speech. they're acting like fucking 13 year old girls.
Under what context is that acceptable behavior for an elected official?
>minute and a half of a speech followed by a standing ovation
>one dude briefly calls him a liar
And if you'd bother to pay attention, the whole point of my post is that this didn't happen previously. We acted with civility during speeches - televised ones, no less. This is a new development, and the distinguishing factor between Obama and those before him is the color of his skin.
I'd really like to know how one guy shouting "liar" constitutes institutionalized racism.
Hm, I wonder if I can find an equal, if not more disparaging experience that the previous president experienced.
OH WAIT I FUCKING DID
hurr durr post a useless video.
I didn't say shouting "liar" was racist. In fact, I never said any of this was racist. But the only major difference is Obama's race. If it's not because he's black, I'm curious as to the cause of the lack of respect for the office of the President. I'm also curious if it will continue in 2016.
posted the wrong video^ What respect? You earn respect, it isn't automatically bestowed upon you simply because you can win a presidential candidacy run.
4232
« on: June 29, 2015, 08:09:29 PM »
...What? Did you not watch the video? They gave him a standing ovation halfway through. He yells "liar". It was extremely disrespectful. Disrespectful it may be, but I fail to see how it translates to racism. Heckling is an inevitability during a presidency. I didn't know you could "briefly" call someone a liar. How interesting. I didn't know heckling someone and calling them a liar is racist. How interesting. Yeah, it is. "If I look into it hard enough, I can literally find anything and construe it as racism." That's because politics is a joke in the EU and UK. Glad we can agree on something. In America, it's much more serious and professional. lmao That shit that guy pulled is rarely, rarely done. If ever. And I'd like to direct you to the video in response to Max. It's hilarious to me how any case of racism against blacks you downplay immediately. "He's not racist, he was just *insert excise here*". Are you allergic to racism or something? Have you ever considered the possibility that maybe, just maybe, the heckler simply disagreed with him? You leftists are so infatuated with the concept of race that you're literally just on the opposite side of the spectrum as stormfags. It's insufferable. It exists. In large amounts. In every facet of the country. Deal with it and stop denying it. OH WOW CHALLENGER PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH THIS IS A NEW EXPERIENCE TO ME
4233
« on: June 29, 2015, 08:02:27 PM »
What are you talking about?
Every facet of the media
and i'm not fucking talking about the media. I'm talking about congressmen lashing out during speeches and shit.
Do none of you fucks know how to read?
No max, the media isn't just the news its fucking everything.
Most particularly pop culture was what I was talking about.
And congressmen are supposed to lash out at the president when he fucks up, its literally their job.
not to his face, interrupting a speech. they're acting like fucking 13 year old girls.
Under what context is that acceptable behavior for an elected official?
>minute and a half of a speech followed by a standing ovation
>one dude briefly calls him a liar
And if you'd bother to pay attention, the whole point of my post is that this didn't happen previously. We acted with civility during speeches - televised ones, no less. This is a new development, and the distinguishing factor between Obama and those before him is the color of his skin.
I'd really like to know how one guy shouting "liar" constitutes institutionalized racism. Hm, I wonder if I can find an equal, if not more disparaging experience that the previous president experienced. OH WAIT I FUCKING DID
4234
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:55:24 PM »
What are you talking about?
Every facet of the media
and i'm not fucking talking about the media. I'm talking about congressmen lashing out during speeches and shit.
Do none of you fucks know how to read?
No max, the media isn't just the news its fucking everything.
Most particularly pop culture was what I was talking about.
And congressmen are supposed to lash out at the president when he fucks up, its literally their job.
not to his face, interrupting a speech. they're acting like fucking 13 year old girls.
Under what context is that acceptable behavior for an elected official?
>minute and a half of a speech followed by a standing ovation >one dude briefly calls him a liar DAS RAISZM Dude, this literally fucking happens in all democratically elected corridors of power. This hasn't got fuck all on the House of Commons.
4235
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:43:05 PM »
>conveniently ignoring the new arsehole Bush got torn by the media for the entirety of his 2 terms
Which is fine by me, I thought he was a shitty president too, but it had nothing to do with skin colour, and everything to do with competency. The only reason you're pulling the race card is because you WANT it to be an issue about race. It's all the left seems to want to talk about, despite allegedly, being opposed to racist lines of thought.
Protip, presidents get shat on regardless of skin colour/political allegiance/dress sense/what side of the street they grew up in because it comes with the turf. To suggest that Obama gets extra flak for his race is just intellectually dishonest at this point.
If it's not because he's black, what about Obama gives these people the grounds to be so disrespectful to him? What happened to respecting the office?
Because he's the Commander-in-chief of a nation that embraces freedom of expression. There will always be people that are going to subject him to a deluge of vitriol regardless of what he does. It's a facet of the job that he knew full and well what it entailed, otherwise he wouldn't have ran for it.
Part of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecution
Personally I like to dissociate myself from identity politics.
Good for you. Doesn't change the fact that this is the kind of shit that happens in our country.
What shit? The right to speak your mind regardless of how contemptible and childish it may be?
My god, it's almost as if America is a western democracy that embraces freedom of speech.
When the fuck did I say you couldn't speak your mind? Are you just making shit up now?
You spoke about conservatives expressing themselves in a very condescending elitist manner, and acted like it's some fucking tragedy that occurs in America on a regular basis and needs to be rectified. Doesn't change the fact that this is the kind of shit that happens in our country.
4236
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:29:17 PM »
>conveniently ignoring the new arsehole Bush got torn by the media for the entirety of his 2 terms
Which is fine by me, I thought he was a shitty president too, but it had nothing to do with skin colour, and everything to do with competency. The only reason you're pulling the race card is because you WANT it to be an issue about race. It's all the left seems to want to talk about, despite allegedly, being opposed to racist lines of thought.
Protip, presidents get shat on regardless of skin colour/political allegiance/dress sense/what side of the street they grew up in because it comes with the turf. To suggest that Obama gets extra flak for his race is just intellectually dishonest at this point.
If it's not because he's black, what about Obama gives these people the grounds to be so disrespectful to him? What happened to respecting the office?
Because he's the Commander-in-chief of a nation that embraces freedom of expression. There will always be people that are going to subject him to a deluge of vitriol regardless of what he does. It's a facet of the job that he knew full and well what it entailed, otherwise he wouldn't have ran for it.
Part of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecution
Personally I like to dissociate myself from identity politics.
Good for you. Doesn't change the fact that this is the kind of shit that happens in our country.
What shit? The right to speak your mind regardless of how contemptible and childish it may be? My god, it's almost as if America is a western democracy that embraces freedom of speech.
4237
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:18:40 PM »
>conveniently ignoring the new arsehole Bush got torn by the media for the entirety of his 2 terms
Which is fine by me, I thought he was a shitty president too, but it had nothing to do with skin colour, and everything to do with competency. The only reason you're pulling the race card is because you WANT it to be an issue about race. It's all the left seems to want to talk about, despite allegedly, being opposed to racist lines of thought.
Protip, presidents get shat on regardless of skin colour/political allegiance/dress sense/what side of the street they grew up in because it comes with the turf. To suggest that Obama gets extra flak for his race is just intellectually dishonest at this point.
If it's not because he's black, what about Obama gives these people the grounds to be so disrespectful to him? What happened to respecting the office?
Because he's the Commander-in-chief of a nation that embraces freedom of expression. There will always be people that are going to subject him to a deluge of vitriol regardless of what he does. It's a facet of the job that he knew full and well what it entailed, otherwise he wouldn't have ran for it.
Part of me wishes a republican wins the next election so democrats can be just as disrespectful to him as republicans were to obama, then they can go cry about conservative persecution
Personally I like to dissociate myself from identity politics.
4238
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:11:08 PM »
>conveniently ignoring the new arsehole Bush got torn by the media for the entirety of his 2 terms
Which is fine by me, I thought he was a shitty president too, but it had nothing to do with skin colour, and everything to do with competency. The only reason you're pulling the race card is because you WANT it to be an issue about race. It's all the left seems to want to talk about, despite allegedly, being opposed to racist lines of thought.
Protip, presidents get shat on regardless of skin colour/political allegiance/dress sense/what side of the street they grew up in because it comes with the turf. To suggest that Obama gets extra flak for his race is just intellectually dishonest at this point.
If it's not because he's black, what about Obama gives these people the grounds to be so disrespectful to him? What happened to respecting the office?
Because he's the Commander-in-chief of a nation that embraces freedom of expression. There will always be people that are going to subject him to a deluge of vitriol regardless of what he does. It's a facet of the job that he knew full and well what it entailed, otherwise he wouldn't have ran for it.
4239
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:49:32 PM »
The fact that you're bothered over what is essentially a panel of cloth that represented antiquated values 200 odd years ago speaks more wonders about the personality of your character than the people who consciously decide to display it on their private property.
"It's worse to be disgusted at somebody flying the nazi flag than it is to fly the nazi flag"
LOL
O
L
Getting histrionic over an assortment of colours is far more pathetic than a law abiding citizen who enjoys displaying said flag on their own property yeah, actually.
FUCK JEWS
AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY HATEFUL OPINION AND WANT TO GIVE YOUR OPINION YOU'RE JUST BEING HOSTRIONIC
the white man marches on
4240
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:38:28 PM »
what kind of meme you want fam?
4241
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:26:15 PM »
You gonna whine every time a business removes a product that's hateful to a minority group?
If it's for retarded purposes (like this is) then obviously I'm going to question their business practices, but I'm hardly going to lose any sleep over it. It's their prerogative of what they want to sell and who they want to sell it to.
4242
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:08:28 PM »
>conveniently ignoring the new arsehole Bush got torn by the media for the entirety of his 2 terms
Which is fine by me, I thought he was a shitty president too, but it had nothing to do with skin colour, and everything to do with competency. The only reason you're pulling the race card is because you WANT it to be an issue about race. It's all the left seems to want to talk about, despite allegedly, being opposed to racist lines of thought.
Protip, presidents get shat on regardless of skin colour/political allegiance/dress sense/what side of the street they grew up in because it comes with the turf. To suggest that Obama gets extra flak for his race is just intellectually dishonest at this point.
4243
« on: June 29, 2015, 05:57:10 PM »
Also for the record, stores refusing to sell it and all that is retarded. Take it off of government buildings, sure. But uhh, yeah. Free speech and freedom of expression is a two way street. Something more and more people are seeming to forget.
So stores can't make their own business choices now?
If the status quo is forcing bakeries to support gay weddings, then correct.
But there's a difference.
Bakeries denying wedding cakes to certain customers is not the same as pulling a product from the shelves.
How are they in anyway different?
Both are denying services to a specific customer base, and both will lose out on potential revenue, such as the free market dictates.
The only difference is that you find one of them uncomfortable to accept.
What specific customer base is being denied their confederate flag, while another is able to purchase it? they're refusing to sell it to anyone, not just certain people. That's not discrimination.
Confederate fans can't buy Confederate flags at Wal-Mart, Amazon etc, and gay couples can't buy wedding cakes from a select number of caterers. Both can purchase their desired services from another seller willing to satisfy their demands. That's the beauty of the free market.
At the end of the day, the only people getting the short end of the stick are the people refusing to satisfy a specific market.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
>"I can't rebuke his argument"
>"better crack out the troll card"
Pardon me for being skeptical of such an absurd argument.
You going to explain how it's absurd, or are you just going to continue to be a holier than thou prick?
Because they're different things, you retard.
the gay cakes: a certain set of customers are being denied a good or service for specific reasons
the confederate flag: the store is removing the product entirely for all customers
Yes, in either situation, customers can go elsewhere for the good or service.
if you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
You're just arguing technicalities at this point. If your original contention was the difference in business practice, sure, there's a difference. I was kind of looking for a moral argument though, but at this point, if you're going to act infantile, then all that really tells me is that there isn't one.
So are you going to cry every time a store stops carrying a product?
No, because I believe in the free market. Are you going to whinge about faux oppression anytime a business does something that a minority group doesn't like?
4244
« on: June 29, 2015, 04:49:56 PM »
Also for the record, stores refusing to sell it and all that is retarded. Take it off of government buildings, sure. But uhh, yeah. Free speech and freedom of expression is a two way street. Something more and more people are seeming to forget.
So stores can't make their own business choices now?
If the status quo is forcing bakeries to support gay weddings, then correct.
But there's a difference.
Bakeries denying wedding cakes to certain customers is not the same as pulling a product from the shelves.
How are they in anyway different?
Both are denying services to a specific customer base, and both will lose out on potential revenue, such as the free market dictates.
The only difference is that you find one of them uncomfortable to accept.
What specific customer base is being denied their confederate flag, while another is able to purchase it? they're refusing to sell it to anyone, not just certain people. That's not discrimination.
Confederate fans can't buy Confederate flags at Wal-Mart, Amazon etc, and gay couples can't buy wedding cakes from a select number of caterers. Both can purchase their desired services from another seller willing to satisfy their demands. That's the beauty of the free market.
At the end of the day, the only people getting the short end of the stick are the people refusing to satisfy a specific market.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
>"I can't rebuke his argument"
>"better crack out the troll card"
Pardon me for being skeptical of such an absurd argument.
You going to explain how it's absurd, or are you just going to continue to be a holier than thou prick?
Because they're different things, you retard.
the gay cakes: a certain set of customers are being denied a good or service for specific reasons
the confederate flag: the store is removing the product entirely for all customers
Yes, in either situation, customers can go elsewhere for the good or service.
if you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
You're just arguing technicalities at this point. If your original contention was the difference in business practice, sure, there's a difference. I was kind of looking for a moral argument though, but at this point, if you're going to act infantile, then all that really tells me is that there isn't one.
4245
« on: June 29, 2015, 04:12:17 PM »
Also for the record, stores refusing to sell it and all that is retarded. Take it off of government buildings, sure. But uhh, yeah. Free speech and freedom of expression is a two way street. Something more and more people are seeming to forget.
So stores can't make their own business choices now?
If the status quo is forcing bakeries to support gay weddings, then correct.
But there's a difference.
Bakeries denying wedding cakes to certain customers is not the same as pulling a product from the shelves.
How are they in anyway different?
Both are denying services to a specific customer base, and both will lose out on potential revenue, such as the free market dictates.
The only difference is that you find one of them uncomfortable to accept.
What specific customer base is being denied their confederate flag, while another is able to purchase it? they're refusing to sell it to anyone, not just certain people. That's not discrimination.
Confederate fans can't buy Confederate flags at Wal-Mart, Amazon etc, and gay couples can't buy wedding cakes from a select number of caterers. Both can purchase their desired services from another seller willing to satisfy their demands. That's the beauty of the free market.
At the end of the day, the only people getting the short end of the stick are the people refusing to satisfy a specific market.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
>"I can't rebuke his argument"
>"better crack out the troll card"
Pardon me for being skeptical of such an absurd argument.
You going to explain how it's absurd, or are you just going to continue to be a holier than thou prick?
4246
« on: June 29, 2015, 02:00:31 PM »
Also for the record, stores refusing to sell it and all that is retarded. Take it off of government buildings, sure. But uhh, yeah. Free speech and freedom of expression is a two way street. Something more and more people are seeming to forget.
So stores can't make their own business choices now?
If the status quo is forcing bakeries to support gay weddings, then correct.
But there's a difference.
Bakeries denying wedding cakes to certain customers is not the same as pulling a product from the shelves.
How are they in anyway different?
Both are denying services to a specific customer base, and both will lose out on potential revenue, such as the free market dictates.
The only difference is that you find one of them uncomfortable to accept.
What specific customer base is being denied their confederate flag, while another is able to purchase it? they're refusing to sell it to anyone, not just certain people. That's not discrimination.
Confederate fans can't buy Confederate flags at Wal-Mart, Amazon etc, and gay couples can't buy wedding cakes from a select number of caterers. Both can purchase their desired services from another seller willing to satisfy their demands. That's the beauty of the free market.
At the end of the day, the only people getting the short end of the stick are the people refusing to satisfy a specific market.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
>"I can't rebuke his argument" >"better crack out the troll card"
4247
« on: June 29, 2015, 01:59:42 PM »
The fact that you're bothered over what is essentially a panel of cloth that represented antiquated values 200 odd years ago speaks more wonders about the personality of your character than the people who consciously decide to display it on their private property.
"It's worse to be disgusted at somebody flying the nazi flag than it is to fly the nazi flag"
LOL
O
L
Getting histrionic over an assortment of colours is far more pathetic than a law abiding citizen who enjoys displaying said flag on their own property yeah, actually.
4248
« on: June 29, 2015, 10:55:33 AM »
Also for the record, stores refusing to sell it and all that is retarded. Take it off of government buildings, sure. But uhh, yeah. Free speech and freedom of expression is a two way street. Something more and more people are seeming to forget.
So stores can't make their own business choices now?
If the status quo is forcing bakeries to support gay weddings, then correct.
But there's a difference.
Bakeries denying wedding cakes to certain customers is not the same as pulling a product from the shelves.
How are they in anyway different?
Both are denying services to a specific customer base, and both will lose out on potential revenue, such as the free market dictates.
The only difference is that you find one of them uncomfortable to accept.
What specific customer base is being denied their confederate flag, while another is able to purchase it? they're refusing to sell it to anyone, not just certain people. That's not discrimination.
Confederate fans can't buy Confederate flags at Wal-Mart, Amazon etc, and gay couples can't buy wedding cakes from a select number of caterers. Both can purchase their desired services from another seller willing to satisfy their demands. That's the beauty of the free market. At the end of the day, the only people getting the short end of the stick are the people refusing to satisfy a specific market.
4249
« on: June 29, 2015, 10:42:04 AM »
Also for the record, stores refusing to sell it and all that is retarded. Take it off of government buildings, sure. But uhh, yeah. Free speech and freedom of expression is a two way street. Something more and more people are seeming to forget.
So stores can't make their own business choices now?
If the status quo is forcing bakeries to support gay weddings, then correct.
But there's a difference.
Bakeries denying wedding cakes to certain customers is not the same as pulling a product from the shelves.
How are they in anyway different? Both are denying services to a specific customer base, and both will lose out on potential revenue, such as the free market dictates. The only difference is that you find one of them uncomfortable to accept.
4250
« on: June 29, 2015, 07:13:29 AM »
All this Confederate flag controversy is so stupid. It takes you this long to suddenly be offended?
Okay then.
The Confederate flag nonsense has been an issue since the Civil War. It only now has been boiling over because of current events combined with the fact that it isn't 1863 anymore.
No, it definitely hasn't been a thing here. Kids flew the stars and bars on their pickup trucks going to school senior year.
Maybe in Comradefornia it's an issue, but y'all can just keep your whole being offended at everything shtick to y'allselves.
the fact that you guys aren't bothered by flying a flag that represents racism, violence, and hatred speaks more about the south than anything else. there's a reason you guys are terrible at everything. maybe there's something in the water down there.
The fact that you're bothered over what is essentially a panel of cloth that represented antiquated values 200 odd years ago speaks more wonders about the personality of your character than the people who consciously decide to display it on their private property.
4251
« on: June 28, 2015, 01:13:40 PM »
But OT, Greece is totally fucked now, isn't it? It was fucked a long time ago for not paying denbts.
4252
« on: June 28, 2015, 12:52:44 PM »
4253
« on: June 28, 2015, 11:03:59 AM »
Well it's a private event, and they can invite whomever they want.
I'm aware. I just think it's highly ironic given it's an event about acceptance and tolerance.
4254
« on: June 28, 2015, 10:15:28 AM »
4255
« on: June 27, 2015, 01:53:41 PM »
Post scarcity economy when?
4256
« on: June 27, 2015, 01:52:57 PM »
It went full grimdark to appease the edgy kids, and thus became boring in the process.
Say what you will about GTA V but at least it was fun, and didn't have some fat slavshit phoning you every minute asking if he wants to go bowling.
4257
« on: June 26, 2015, 07:59:15 PM »
Great, as long as it doesn't enforce religious institutions to start performing gay marriage, then great.
Considering the government doesn't have that authority, I don't see how that could happen.
I never said it could or would happen. Just putting a caveat out there.
"just here to remind everybody that i'm conservative"
Now you know how it feels to have a vegan thread spammed every second day.
And also, *libertarian
Libertarians exist in England?
How does it feel to have less representation in your own government than your American brethren do?
*Scotland Imagine the most liberal parts of California, then times it by 10. You're getting close to Scotland.
4258
« on: June 26, 2015, 05:29:31 PM »
also wait how can stan the man hold dragonstone when the targs have control of the crownlands? ah fuck it i guess this isnt supposed to make any sense at all
The idea is to have less restriction on choice. Is it that difficult to remove yourself canonically for game purposes?
its not necessarily about canon story progression, its that dragonstone is the seat of the targ heirs, and their oldest stronghold in the kingdoms. stannis can set himself up wherever but if he's set up in dragonstone right now thats an act of aggression against the lords of the crownlands
Eh it's a separate island so it works for the parameters of the game. Plus it's Mannis. Bit late now to change things anyway.
4259
« on: June 26, 2015, 05:26:02 PM »
Great, as long as it doesn't enforce religious institutions to start performing gay marriage, then great.
Considering the government doesn't have that authority, I don't see how that could happen.
I never said it could or would happen. Just putting a caveat out there.
"just here to remind everybody that i'm conservative"
Now you know how it feels to have a vegan thread spammed every second day. And also, *libertarian
4260
« on: June 26, 2015, 05:24:05 PM »
also wait how can stan the man hold dragonstone when the targs have control of the crownlands? ah fuck it i guess this isnt supposed to make any sense at all
The idea is to have less restriction on choice. Is it that difficult to remove yourself canonically for game purposes?
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