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2641
« on: February 21, 2016, 07:15:03 PM »
le ebin 4chan meme language
I've never seen so much cancer in my life.
2642
« on: February 21, 2016, 07:06:43 PM »
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
Before we all right McHugh off as a religious hick there is still the issue of extremely high suicide rates for SRS patients that no one in the thread has yet to address. Those who had the sex-change surgery were almost 20 times more likely to take their own lives than the non-transgender population. They were also more likely to seek in-house treatment for psychiatric conditions.
The study was conducted in 2011, so you'd be pretty hard pressed to categorize the data as 'outdated'.
something i like to repost:from here
3.3. Percentages of transsexuals with symptoms
of anxiety and depression according to the
hormonal treatment
Overall, 61% of the group of patients without treatment and
33% of the group with hormonal treatment experienced
possible symptoms (score 8—10) or symptoms (score >11)
of anxiety (Table 3). The same pattern was found for symptoms
of depression;the percentages were significantly higher
in the group of patients without treatment (31%) than in the
group on hormonal treatment (8%).
You might be confused by the fact that transsexuals remain at high risk for suicide after transitioning, but the question is whether or not they would have been at a high risk anyway if they hadn't transitioned, because the transgender tendency might relate to a mental health difference that non-transgender populations do not exhibit. See: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
"For the purpose of evaluating the safety of sex reassignment in terms of morbidity and mortality, however, it is reasonable to compare sex reassigned persons with matched population controls. The caveat with this design is that transsexual persons before sex reassignment might differ from healthy controls (although this bias can be statistically corrected for by adjusting for baseline differences). It is therefore important to note that the current study is only informative with respect to transsexuals persons health after sex reassignment; no inferences can be drawn as to the effectiveness of sex reassignment as a treatment for transsexualism. In other words, the results should not be interpreted such as sex reassignment per se increases morbidity and mortality. Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment. As an analogy, similar studies have found increased somatic morbidity, suicide rate, and overall mortality for patients treated for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.[39], [40] This is important information, but it does not follow that mood stabilizing treatment or antipsychotic treatment is the culprit."
Correct me if I'm wrong but this study seems to almost explicitly refer to HRT, not SRS, which wasn't my initial contention.
2643
« on: February 21, 2016, 06:57:24 PM »
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885Before we all right McHugh off as a religious hick there is still the issue of extremely high suicide rates for SRS patients that no one in the thread has yet to address. Those who had the sex-change surgery were almost 20 times more likely to take their own lives than the non-transgender population. They were also more likely to seek in-house treatment for psychiatric conditions. The study was conducted in 2011, so you'd be pretty hard pressed to categorize the data as 'outdated'.
2644
« on: February 21, 2016, 06:12:35 PM »
Wait, are people seriously citing the fuckheads from Hopkins?
Paul McHugh
University Distinguished Professor of Psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
Former member of the United State Conference of Catholic Bishop's National Review Board
- Refers to homosexuality as "erroneous desire"
- Argues that being medically accomodating to a transgender child is "like performing liposuction on an anorexic child"
- Filed an amicus brief arguing in favor of Proposition 8 on the basis that homosexuality is a "choice."
- Describes post surgical trans women as "caricatures of women"
- As part of the USCCB's Review Board, pushed the idea that the Catholic sex abuse scandal was not about pedophilia but about “homosexual predation on American Catholic youth.”
Wow, what a great unbiased source that definitely doesn't have any sort of religious agenda.
Got any credible sources to back this up? I've tried to look into this John Hopkins stuff to broaden my horizons on this issue and I can't find anything remotely impartial that corroborates with these claims.
2645
« on: February 21, 2016, 03:30:25 PM »
US colleges are a fucking zoo at this point lmao
2646
« on: February 21, 2016, 03:22:48 PM »
That's rather odd, usually college campuses are open minded about ideas such as these. college campuses open minded o i am laffin
2647
« on: February 21, 2016, 03:15:55 PM »
As usual, transgender discussion on sep7 goes flawlessly.
"People disagree with me so the discussion has gone to shit"
2648
« on: February 21, 2016, 03:13:04 PM »
i just wanted a tour guide of your country guys gawd
2649
« on: February 21, 2016, 03:06:19 PM »
2650
« on: February 21, 2016, 03:05:36 PM »
best soundtrack in a movie ever tbh fam
2651
« on: February 21, 2016, 01:07:02 PM »
I'm in nyc all the time in the summer
I'll be ur tour guide no lie. We can eat endangered soft shell turtles in little Korea and praise Allah in the middle of times square.
tight
2652
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:56:36 PM »
Mordo you're doing good by avoiding the south.
ye I'd prefer not to get perforated with bullets in a Wal-Mart or somfin
You're also doing well to avoid their definition of "culture".
Reginald D Hunter did a documentary that piqued my interest about Southern culture though. I wouldn't mind visiting there but the gun laws kinda put me off from going.
Are you telling me you let propaganda and memes control your life?
You are a thousand times less safe in London at night than just about anywhere in the US, sans ghettos and border towns.
good thing i've never been to london either
2653
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:55:36 PM »
Leave it to Door to tell you to visit the most boring fucking place in America: Maine
If you can't appreciate the beauty of coastal Maine forests and shoreline, you're vapid as fuck to be honest my family
He lives in Scotland you fucking retard. He's not going to visit America to see more of what he sees every day.
Does scotland have fresh $5 lobster dinners in every restaurant? I think not.
we have deep fried chocolate and Glasgow smiles
2654
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:51:54 PM »
Mordo you're doing good by avoiding the south.
ye I'd prefer not to get perforated with bullets in a Wal-Mart or somfin
You're also doing well to avoid their definition of "culture".
Reginald D Hunter did a documentary that piqued my interest about Southern culture though. I wouldn't mind visiting there but the gun laws kinda put me off from going.
2655
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:43:27 PM »
how many hamgalaxies will i encounter too?
2656
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:41:23 PM »
Mordo you're doing good by avoiding the south.
ye I'd prefer not to get perforated with bullets in a Wal-Mart or somfin
2657
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:35:49 PM »
freedom aint free. the tree of libery and freedom gotta be litterd with the blood of patriots. Barack HUSSEIN Obama a.k.a "B.O" is not my presidnet. he is islamic gommunist and probbably kenyan as well :-DDD. Adam and Eve not Adam and STEVE ok. praise jesus.
2658
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:26:45 PM »
You're basically visiting London
A white London though >:^)
2659
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:26:10 PM »
Why would you want to go to NYC?
My fam want to go.
Your fam is retarded
I'm only there for 7 days. Will I get killed by mussies?
There's not much to do in NYC besides shopping.
Sure there's things like the Statue of Liberty and WTC. But all of them can be knocked out in a day. You'll spend most of the day just going into stores.
I would recommend Philadelphia. And are you even visiting any National Parks? It's the main reason why people visit the U.S.
What about the people there? Does the movie meme of New Yorkers being assholes hold any credibility?
2660
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:23:51 PM »
Come to NC you pict fucking faggot
ew the south
>never been here
>still believing commie fucking stereotypes
You're basically not even visiting America. The urban centers have no culture. Real America is down here, fam.
As a limey I'll have no gun freedumbs to defend myself with tho
2661
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:20:06 PM »
Why would you want to go to NYC?
My fam want to go.
Your fam is retarded
I'm only there for 7 days. Will I get killed by mussies?
2662
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:18:42 PM »
Come to NC you pict fucking faggot
ew the south
2663
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:16:42 PM »
Why would you want to go to NYC?
My fam want to go.
2664
« on: February 21, 2016, 12:15:05 PM »
NYC specifically.
Should I start wearing shoes on the sofa and start clapping at the cinema, or would that be cultural appropriation?
2665
« on: February 21, 2016, 11:45:35 AM »
The big difference being there fam is that the trans issue is still a pretty contentious debate in the dialogue of society. Not everyone agrees exactly what it is and what should be the ideal solution as there are myriad conflicting scientific and academic papers surrounding it. That isn't the case with race. Scientific racism has been pretty much put to bed sans within a few bumfuck corners of the globe that don't represent the majority of what people think.
So then...since it's an up-and-coming issue, we should just deal with bigotry surrounding it?
So ten years ago when gay rights were in the spotlight, a person calling gays mentally ill would be fine so long as he "put up" with them?
No. We should be having a continuous and polite debate about it without shutting people down with buzzwords.
Daily reminder that buzzword is a buzzword
And it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do, in my eyes. Why is it not? If she's transphobic, then calling her transphobic is simply stating the obvious facts. What other discourse is to be had if she's so ignorant that she doesn't even know that post-op means that a trans man would have a dick?
Maybe put together an actual argument with evidence instead of slinging around pejorative epithets that don't really advance the discourse or solve anything at all? I mean, I don't get what's so difficult about that. If someone's being transphobic, point out why they're wrong and provide them with compelling proof as to how they're wrong. Will it be futile? Probably. But it's a hell of a lot better than screaming meaningless words at them.
2666
« on: February 21, 2016, 11:40:02 AM »
The big difference being there fam is that the trans issue is still a pretty contentious debate in the dialogue of society. Not everyone agrees exactly what it is and what should be the ideal solution as there are myriad conflicting scientific and academic papers surrounding it. That isn't the case with race. Scientific racism has been pretty much put to bed sans within a few bumfuck corners of the globe that don't represent the majority of what people think.
So then...since it's an up-and-coming issue, we should just deal with bigotry surrounding it?
So ten years ago when gay rights were in the spotlight, a person calling gays mentally ill would be fine so long as he "put up" with them?
No. We should be having a continuous and polite debate about it without shutting people down with buzzwords.
2667
« on: February 21, 2016, 11:19:41 AM »
"Greer insisted in the bluntest of terms that she did not accept that post-operative men were women. “I don’t believe a woman is a man without a cock,” she said. “You can beat me over the head with a baseball bat. It still won’t make me change my mind.”
Yeah, pretty transphobic, that is "Ms Greer did say she would be prepared to use female pronouns when referring to someone, if that was their preference, "as a courtesy".
omg having a different opinion while still aligning with trans people sensibilities out of courteousness? Literally worse than le german moustache man of the 1940s fam.
Nobody's saying anything about hitler but you, bruh
And if a man was an outspoken racist but said that he would refer to blacks as people out of "courtesy," then he's still a racist fuck.
Like, treating someone else as a human being isn't " a courtesy". You're not going out of your way to respect them. You're treating them like any other human being and acting like acting as you're supposed to is doing some poor oppressed minority such a huge favor gives off some real White Man's Burden vibes.
As for the second thing, yeah, incitement to violence is shit, but both sides do that. I don't condone it, but it's not like it's only the "progressives" get that. People mock Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn for saying they receive death threats all the time, but as soon as it's on the other side of the equation, death threats are suddenly a legitimate problem.
The big difference being there fam is that the trans issue is still a pretty contentious debate in the dialogue of society. Not everyone agrees exactly what it is and what should be the ideal solution as there are myriad conflicting scientific and academic papers surrounding it. That isn't the case with race. Scientific racism has been pretty much put to bed sans within a few bumfuck corners of the globe that don't represent the majority of what people think. And lmao, did you really just compare Slagnita Hackeesian to Peter Tatchell, the guy who ended up with permanent brain and eye damage for voicing his opinions? The reason nobody takes her death threats seriously is because they've been debunked by law enforcement time and time again. Death threats to her are just a new way to galvanize her kickstarter following.
2668
« on: February 21, 2016, 11:07:08 AM »
"Greer insisted in the bluntest of terms that she did not accept that post-operative men were women. “I don’t believe a woman is a man without a cock,” she said. “You can beat me over the head with a baseball bat. It still won’t make me change my mind.”
Yeah, pretty transphobic, that is "Ms Greer did say she would be prepared to use female pronouns when referring to someone, if that was their preference, "as a courtesy".omg having a different opinion while still aligning with trans people sensibilities out of courteousness? Literally worse than le german moustache man of the 1940s fam. And the second is just "muh freeze peach". Having a right to free speech doesn't mean you have a right to absolution from criticism. Dunno about you but I wouldn't exactly categorize incitement to violence and no platforming as 'criticism.' Not seeing your point, here. Didn't really expect you to tbh.
2669
« on: February 21, 2016, 10:58:13 AM »
People are starting to see through the bullshit of the transphobia card so they've upped their game by moving up a tier on the oppression olympics scale.
"Man am I tired of minorities telling me to stop throwing slurs at them" - Straight, cis white people
The term 'slurs' being subjective of course. What a slur is to progressives is not considered a slur to the rest of us.
"Man, Caitlyn Jenner is a fucking hypocritical, mendacious douche and should not be used as a rallying figure for the trans community."
"WAT LE FUG U FUCKING INSENSITIVE TRANSPHOBE USING VALID CRITICISM AS A MEANS TO DISPARAGE A STRONK WOMYN. TRANS PEOPLE HAVING TO PUT UP WITH ALL THESE SLURS SMH"
Yeah, no. Fuck off.
Don't be a doofus, doofus
Nobody says that that's using any type of slurs or being transphobic
It's when people say, "Man, BRUCE Jenner is pretty ugly, huh?!!?" and then totally deny that what they're saying has anything to do with disparaging trans people that it's considered transphobic
My point being is that using "transphobia" as a means to effectively shoot down anything even remotely critical to say about transgender individuals or the trans community in general is insufferable as fuck. Serious allegations of transphobia/racism/sexism etc should not be used like a buzzer on a quiz show when someone says something that makes you feel uncomfortable for a couple seconds.
Not...not really, fam.
I've never seen anyone pull any kind of "card" for a non-legitimate reason, tbh. Well, okay, maybe not never, but the vast majority of these kinds of claims are really just strawmen.
http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/nov/18/transgender-activists-protest-germaine-greer-lecture-cardiff-universityhttp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/peter-tatchell-twitter-mob-who-vowed-kill-me-over-mary-beard-transgender-letter-have-it-all-wrong-1488351http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11852887/Lawyer-accused-of-sexism-after-complimenting-barrister-on-stunning-LinkedIn-picture.htmlHere all week desu.
2670
« on: February 21, 2016, 10:44:56 AM »
People are starting to see through the bullshit of the transphobia card so they've upped their game by moving up a tier on the oppression olympics scale.
"Man am I tired of minorities telling me to stop throwing slurs at them" - Straight, cis white people
The term 'slurs' being subjective of course. What a slur is to progressives is not considered a slur to the rest of us.
"Man, Caitlyn Jenner is a fucking hypocritical, mendacious douche and should not be used as a rallying figure for the trans community."
"WAT LE FUG U FUCKING INSENSITIVE TRANSPHOBE USING VALID CRITICISM AS A MEANS TO DISPARAGE A STRONK WOMYN. TRANS PEOPLE HAVING TO PUT UP WITH ALL THESE SLURS SMH"
Yeah, no. Fuck off.
Don't be a doofus, doofus
Nobody says that that's using any type of slurs or being transphobic
It's when people say, "Man, BRUCE Jenner is pretty ugly, huh?!!?" and then totally deny that what they're saying has anything to do with disparaging trans people that it's considered transphobic
My point being is that using "transphobia" as a means to effectively shoot down anything even remotely critical to say about transgender individuals or the trans community in general is insufferable as fuck. Serious allegations of transphobia/racism/sexism etc should not be used like a buzzer on a quiz show when someone says something that makes you feel uncomfortable for a couple seconds.
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