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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: April 26, 2020, 06:45:27 PM »
t. seething mutts

The fact that Americans need to protest a pandemic so they can go back to being wagecucks is a testament to their exploitative parasitic system, not to "apocalyptic shills" or whatever other coping mechanism that reaffirms your confirmation biases.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: April 26, 2020, 06:20:29 PM »
NOOOO YOU CAN'T LOCKDOWN A COUNTRY DURING THE FUCKERY OF A PANDEMIC LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNTRY'S RATIONAL RESPONSE, I NEED TO GO BACK TO MY MINIMUM WAGE SLAVE TIER JOB, I NEED MY HECKIN HAIR CUTTERINOS

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: April 25, 2020, 06:25:48 PM »
meh
less people are gonna die to this than the flu anyway
This did not age well.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: April 20, 2020, 11:23:47 AM »
Ben Shapiro said there is close to 0% chance of you dying from corona if you are young and healthy. It also hasn't affected Sweden much more than others despite keeping things open.

Pneumonia doesn't really care how old you are. And I think there's something critical that everybody is overlooking due to their insistence on "fixing" the economy back up to speed. All viruses mutate. Corona's death rate may not be staggering compared to other pandemics of the past, but right now what we're looking at is a lucky blow. What if it develops more lethal parameters? With a virus, these scenarios are all based on time. It's not a question of if, if it's a question of when. The more people that catch and spread it, the better chances it has to develop more virulent strains or make cross species jumps like the one that killed that tiger in the new york zoo.
We don't take this person seriously here.

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Serious / Re: Why don't people care about the Biden allegations?
« on: April 16, 2020, 07:04:19 AM »

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: April 16, 2020, 06:56:40 AM »
Edit: It's not worth the effort.
Why lol. You pretty much openly admitted to everyone you have absolutely no qualms about the potentiality of people dying if it meant that the vampire capitalist wheels keep on spinning. Might as well at least try and defend your bizarre position.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: April 16, 2020, 05:11:15 AM »
I am getting sick of these bold theories outside the realm of reality.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/social-distancing-research-coronavirus-2022-trnd/index.html

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The study researchers say they are aware that such prolonged distancing, even if intermittent, would likely have "profoundly negative economic, social, and educational consequences."

Let me translate this: This is fucking impossible and anybody in a state of authority that thinks this is feasible is huffing paint. This nonsense needs to stop at the end of May at the latest. This virus is only a serious risk to a percentage of the population and you can't let the entire world be held hostage by the idea of their safety. "Oh the poor 14% of seniors in this country who are at risk (not mentioning who will live if they get the virus)!" How about all 315 million people at risk of being jobless and having no money for food and shelter because we decided to save a fraction of a fraction of that? Force the ones at risk to stay at home and let the people who aren't going to keel over from even just the regular flu to move on with our lives.

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Serious / Re: whom is going to win
« on: April 08, 2020, 11:14:08 AM »
Another 4 years of Trump it is then.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: April 06, 2020, 03:45:29 PM »
Dominic Raab is pretty much in charge now for the meantime.

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Serious / Re: Keir Starmer elected leader of UK Labour Party
« on: April 05, 2020, 06:22:01 PM »
"Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer"

don't know what that means but it sounds awesome
It's basically the oppositions answer to the British equivalent of the treasury secretary.

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Serious / Re: Keir Starmer elected leader of UK Labour Party
« on: April 05, 2020, 08:35:56 AM »
Labour are in a really fucking tough spot with their voter base right now. Metropolitan liberals of the South and London who are anti brexit, and the North who are pro brexit anti establishment.

They risk alienating either faction by keeping Corbynism or going with a Blairite due to the schism. Can't quite put my finger on Starmer but he's giving me British Biden vibes to say the least.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 27, 2020, 01:06:13 PM »
Italy just reported 900 deaths in a day.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 27, 2020, 06:30:41 AM »
Boris Johnson has now tested positive for the virus.

The thing's infiltrating government now.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 08:58:54 PM »
21,000 dead. What a fucking sobering statistic.

There's gonna have to be a memorial day dedicated to this or something when it's all said and done.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 08:56:22 PM »
Nobody knows the reason why Italy is severely affected
There are two reasons why Italy is severely affected.

1) Italy has high standard of living, and a lot of people in their 60+ not only are alive, but can (and prefer to, because mentality to live life to fullest, to enjoy it) walk around freely, which worked in favour of infecting more people
Interesting.

It's peculiar how Japan isn't seeing more cases than it's currently experiencing right now given their life expectancy and standard of living.

Then again, they have the added benefit of living on an island.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 07:01:33 PM »
Yes, I said Federal meddling wouldn't be productive, but I'm saying that in conjunction to what's already been done. I'm not blind to what's already been taken. I'm sorry but I don't see how the federal government can automatically do a more efficient job just because they're the federal government, especially with our current president. This country is so mismanaged and it doesn't exactly have a great tract record at being efficient, whereas I've seen states handle things in their jurisdiction with great skill. Granted this is a very new crisis that we haven't really experienced before but I still don't see how the states shouldn't have any authority on the matter.

Here's a question: Isn't Italy in the EU? What steps are they taking and if they are, why is Italy still piling up bodies?

My bro, you are the one arguing why federal government should not be involved in a nationwide health crisis. You've now jumped from "what good would federal meddling do" to conceding that the federal government is doing something about it. I'm arguing that they're not doing enough, and now you're trying to semantics your way out of this hole you've dug yourself into.

Gaslighting might work on your Liberty Hangout forums but it doesn't work on people with a brain.
I'm not saying they automatically would do a better job, nor am I saying that states are to be left in the dark. Common sense dictates however that a federalised lockdown would almost 100% hamper the spread of the disease. Leaving it up to the states seems a bit counterintuitive and lazy. States do not have the same amount of authority that the federal government does, therefore it makes sense to hand more responsibility to the federal government in order to curb this thing. I'm really struggling with your inability to comprehend this here.

I'm not sure what your question is alluding to or implying. Nobody knows the reason why Italy is severely affected, but what is certain is that the nationwide lockdown is starting to yield results, albeit slowly. The EU doesn't have much clout in the operations of individual member states because the EU and Italy aren't a singular country. The US is.

Let me ask you a question, if Italy had left their individual provinces and city councils to their own devices to deal with this thing, would they be seeing better results, or do you think the virus would ripping through communities like wildfire?

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 25, 2020, 12:40:03 AM »
Calm down Jesus Christ you’re embarrassing yourself over a simple discussion.

I never said anything about defying the law to go to work, you’re pulling that out of nowhere. Also throwing money at an issue won’t necessarily make it go away. Is this affecting the entire country? Yes. Is the federal government doing something about it? Yes. Should the state/local government do something to help in their respective states? Yes.

This is not a difficult concept. I don’t know what it’s like over there but here the state/local governments can do more for their citizens than just make petty ordinances. The way your arguing about this you’re making it seem like there’s nothing in between a huge national government and a neighborhood advisory board meeting.

At least, that’s how your coming across.

I swear, you yanks would have literal walkers roaming the streets and you'd still be like "I am a PROUD Trump supporter and I will gladly DIE on the job at Foot Locker if it means the federal government stays out of our lives!"

Federal government = more resources and better equipment to deal with national crises. State government pertains to LOCALISED issues, which is clearly not what you are dealing with here. I'm not even American and even I can grasp that basic concept. Why is this so difficult for you.
My bro, you are the one arguing why federal government should not be involved in a nationwide health crisis. You've now jumped from "what good would federal meddling do" to conceding that the federal government is doing something about it. I'm arguing that they're not doing enough, and now you're trying to semantics your way out of this hole you've dug yourself into.

Gaslighting might work on your Liberty Hangout forums but it doesn't work on people with a brain.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 24, 2020, 02:00:04 PM »
I don't understand where this is coming from. You just asked if the Federal government could overrule the state government and take control of the situation, which they can. But what would the federal government do in that situation that they haven't done already and can't already be handled by the state/city government?

Are you seriously trying to argue that the massively funded federal government which is designed to respond to situations like this, with specialised forces and scientists at their disposal, is at all comparable to a state trooper whose 9 to 5 job it is to patrol the highway?
I swear, you yanks would have literal walkers roaming the streets and you'd still be like "I am a PROUD Trump supporter and I will gladly DIE on the job at Foot Locker if it means the federal government stays out of our lives!"

Federal government = more resources and better equipment to deal with national crises. State government pertains to LOCALISED issues, which is clearly not what you are dealing with here. I'm not even American and even I can grasp that basic concept. Why is this so difficult for you.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 24, 2020, 09:47:01 AM »
Theoretically yes, but what difference does it make with the Fed controlling the police force and national guard when the jobs of both are still "Roam the streets and enforce curfews on non-essential workers"?

And federal government can overrule the state in a time of crisis no?
Are you seriously trying to argue that the massively funded federal government which is designed to respond to situations like this, with specialised forces and scientists at their disposal, is at all comparable to a state trooper whose 9 to 5 job it is to patrol the highway?

I just don't understand why you're so averse to a rational response to this. COVID-19 doesn't give a fuck about your opinions or political alignments.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 24, 2020, 05:08:04 AM »
Police force is operated by city and state governments. And the governor of the state deploys the national guard IIRC.

>biggest, most advanced military in the world
>modernised police force
>difficult to lockdown

Sometimes I think Americans know less about their society than the rest of the world does.
And federal government can overrule the state in a time of crisis no?

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 09:21:32 PM »
I mean, there are measures by the national government, but things like enforcing a lock down or keeping people at home would be difficult for the national government to do.

It's an international crisis affecting multiple countries and unions my man. Italy is reporting 500 plus deaths a day. Spain isn't far behind. Given the current trajectory the US is on you guys look to be giving them a run for their money in the coming days. If that doesn't warrant federal/national government intervention instead of state intervention then I'm not sure what does.
>biggest, most advanced military in the world
>modernised police force
>difficult to lockdown

Sometimes I think Americans know less about their society than the rest of the world does.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 08:51:51 PM »
You brought up emergencies; and my issue isn't the government, it's people not relying on their local/state government.

Using hurricanes as a comparison isn't exactly the best example for a contagious virus that isn't restricted by geography or climate.

Bit weird that this contagion is literally on the verge of ripping the arse out of your country and what's concerning you the most is the 'gubberment'.
It's an international crisis affecting multiple countries and unions my man. Italy is reporting 500 plus deaths a day. Spain isn't far behind. Given the current trajectory the US is on you guys look to be giving them a run for their money in the coming days. If that doesn't warrant federal/national government intervention instead of state intervention then I'm not sure what does.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 08:36:19 PM »
I'm not saying that the federal level shouldn't exist, or that it shouldn't be in charge of things. What I'm saying is that people will often ignore their state/local governments when those are perfectly reasonable institutions for such situations. I distinctly remember back in 2012/2013 one guy was going state to state trying to abolish the death penalty via their state governments, made significantly more progress than any federal push on the issue. I live in Florida where we're known for being slapped in the face by hurricanes non-stop, but all those strict building codes, reconstruction, and other forms of aid came from state of Florida, very little actually gets to us in the form of federal assistance.

Also I find it ironic making such a statement on being unified yet Italy and most other European countries are struggling with the virus themselves despite the EU being a thing.

What's the point in being a unified country then? What's the point in even having a federal government if not for enacting emergency powers for this very reason?

The "my area isn't affected yet so we don't need to do anything" mentality needs to stop. It's that very mindset which has gotten Europe into the mess it's in right now. Fuck, morons in the UK were treating it like a holiday weekend yesterday, so now the government has had to step in. The containment phase is past the point of no return now. The sooner countries (and states I guess?) start taking this pandemic more seriously the sooner we can resume our lives.
Using hurricanes as a comparison isn't exactly the best example for a contagious virus that isn't restricted by geography or climate.

Bit weird that this contagion is literally on the verge of ripping the arse out of your country and what's concerning you the most is the 'gubberment'.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 08:02:34 PM »
The responsibility falls to state governments. Just because New York has numerous cases doesn't mean South Dakota needs to take the same measures New York is. What good would federal meddling do? It would just cause more problems in South Dakota, and I'm speaking as somebody that lives in a big state. I've been saying this for years now: the US federal government is an incompetent bureaucratic mess and people need to stop trying to get things done on a federal level.

I'm surprised the country isn't on a federal lockdown tbh, if that's even possible. Don't really know the ins and outs of US government emergency responses to a crisis like this, but you think it would have happened by now.

You're the third most affected country in the world. New York state alone has higher cases than the entirety of the UK.

Then again, Trump.
What's the point in being a unified country then? What's the point in even having a federal government if not for enacting emergency powers for this very reason?

The "my area isn't affected yet so we don't need to do anything" mentality needs to stop. It's that very mindset which has gotten Europe into the mess it's in right now. Fuck, morons in the UK were treating it like a holiday weekend yesterday, so now the government has had to step in. The containment phase is past the point of no return now. The sooner countries (and states I guess?) start taking this pandemic more seriously the sooner we can resume our lives.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 04:31:36 PM »
my state is in lockdown as well
I'm surprised the country isn't on a federal lockdown tbh, if that's even possible. Don't really know the ins and outs of US government emergency responses to a crisis like this, but you think it would have happened by now.

You're the third most affected country in the world. New York state alone has higher cases than the entirety of the UK.

Then again, Trump.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 23, 2020, 03:47:03 PM »
Noooo Boris don't lock us down ur so sexy haha x

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The Flood / Re: How are you going to spend your time during Corona?
« on: March 22, 2020, 06:27:11 PM »
"Look. Listen. I know why you choose to hold your little, ahem, "group therapy sessions" on video chat. I know why you're afraid to go out in public. The Batflu. See, the Batflu has shown the world your true colors, unfortunately. Italy? That's just the beginning. And as for the WHO's so called plan? Batflu has no jurisdiction. It’ll find them and make them cough. I know the immunocompromised when I see them and..."

"What do you propose?"

"It’s simple, we uh, nuke, the Chinese. If we don't deal with this now, soon, uh, little Donald here won't be able to get toilet paper for his grandma."

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 21, 2020, 01:48:32 PM »
US has over taken Iran in number of active cases.

The way your health care is set up you guys are in for a wreckoning.

Good luck.

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The Flood / Re: How are you going to spend your time during Corona?
« on: March 19, 2020, 09:37:58 PM »
Wanking myself to death before the chink flu can take me.

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Serious / Re: Coronavirus panic room thread
« on: March 19, 2020, 12:34:36 AM »
Apparently China has peaked according to their (((government))) although take that with a pinch of salt. No new native cases reported. Supposedly.

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