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33931
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:59:03 AM »
Outsourcing is destroying our countries. Instead of all these jobs being in our own countries The pool of jobs isn't fixed. . . Having things produced elsewhere for cheaper frees up labour to pursue more economically beneficial activity, and helps consumers by making goods cheaper.
Conservatism in America = Republicans Not true; Republicans would never criticise Bush for not being a conservative, as many do, if that were explicitly the case.
I'm not talking about fiscal conservatism. Neither am I, I'm talking about economic policy wholly.
Far worse compared to people making money from producing things in their own country. Far more jobs, and better quality products. I meant when I said conservatism, I meant republicans.
33932
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:56:22 AM »
>Reagan didn't have anything to do with the economy
This is the only part I'm going to jump into, but Kinder didn't say that. He said the President doesn't have total control. Which is true. In fact, they don't even have most of the control; that title belongs to the Fed Chairman.
Funny how he's so quick to blame Obama for all the economy's woes, then.
33933
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:54:41 AM »
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
I like you too, but you're incredibly partisan, at least when it's against Republicans. Republicans, quite clearly, don't want to run the U.S. into the ground, and whether you think their policies will do that is an interesting discussion.
But let's be honest here, the Democrats who've 'endowed' the country with good economic growth have done so largely by adopting centrist/conservative policies; Kennedy's tax-cuts (ruined by the Great Society and LBJ), Clinton's appointment of Robert Rubin as head of the CEA and the maintenance of PAYGO rules. And when Republicans have fucked the economy, it's been because of profligacy a la Bush, which I have a hard time categorising as conservative.
I didn't even come out for the Republicans in my post, anyway, I just said Rubio was better than Hillary.
Of course I'm partisan when there are only two parties and one of them wants to destroy America for everybody who isn't rich. Sorry, but you're wrong. There has almost never been a time conservatism has caused progress for humanity or created a stable economy. They actively deny climate change, it's the party of racists, they're incredibly classist, they hate immigrants. There's nothing good about them.
You're seriously delusional if you think the goal of a party is to ruin a country. There's no logic behind that reasoning.
The logic is they do what benefits them and nobody else, effectively ruining the economy. You have an unhealthy and ignorant bias Hey Camnator. that proves Meta's thread correct when liberals are more close-mined than conservatives. That was the most bullshit study I've ever seen and I wouldn't have believed it if it was saying the opposite either. The Democrats want to make people that work hard feel like the bad guys by taxing them to hell. So people working minimum wage don't work hard? But of course, give the poor millionaires a break. If you SERIOUSLY think Republicans have never benefited the economy, are racisists, xenophobes, etc I don't think, I know. They're against immigration reform, they're against same sex marriage, republican politicians have said racist things countless times and have tried bringing back Jim Crow laws. then you're the definition of ignorance and it's disgusting you're acting in a fascist manner
>mfw you randomly string together words trying to insult me 
33934
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:47:57 AM »
Let me ask - what is so bad about Clinton? She has some fairly shit opinions. I don't have the sheet on me at the moment that I made comparing Clinton, Rubio and Gary Johnson but Clinton was by far and away the worst there.
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
Good to know indoctrination is a real thing
Democrats are running this country into the ground. It's a fucking blessing they lost control of the Senate
The irony.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10
For one, the Federal Reserve ruined the economy in the 70s and 80s
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm
Inflation was increasing since 1965, which led to economic situations later on
But here's a study, not some "insider", saying the Democrats ruined the economy
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-study-confirms-economy-was-destroyed-by-democrat-policies
If you want some added fun, only a mere 250K something jobs added since 2009 up til now was a collective 49 states+D.C; The conservative stronghold of Texas added the majority of over 1 million jobs since 2009
>complete lies
>bullshit study misrepresenting the facts and straight up lying
This "insider" you're disregarding is David Stockman, "President Ronald Reagan's director of the Office of Management and Budget". It's incredible how hard you deny the facts and then how vehemently you accuse others of what you do. Republicans nearly collapsed America.
tl;dr: Chally instead of refuting uses his typical "lalalala i can't hear you" attitude when facts are shown that discredit him. God, grow up already. I bet if I told you the grass was green then you would call that a lie because that IS your attitude
LOL Sure thing kiddo. So because he has some fancy title, he's automatically the most "credibe" source on the planet? By that logic, the Republican in-charge of the environmental committee must be the most credible person on the climate Misrepresentation of the facts again :^) No, it's that he was director of the Office of Management and Budget and is actively saying Republican economics are destroying America. You're the one denying facts as the fact is inflation started growing in 1965 and snowballed for the next 15 years. To battle inflation, Carter appointed Paul Volcker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, who defeated it by putting the nation through an intentional recession. Once the threat of inflation abated in late 1982, Volcker cut interest rates and flooded the economy with money, fueling an expansion that lasted seven years. Neither Carter nor Reagan had much to do with the economic events that occurred during their terms. Because if you seriously think the president has total control of the economy then you're totally damn wrong
>Reagan didn't have anything to do with the economy Good stuff as always Bueno.
33935
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:19:42 AM »
He's damning of how America has shipped its jobs overseas and it's living off false prosperity. Outsourcing isn't a problem; actually it's a benefit.
You don't usually here claims of false prosperity except from hard-money, free-market Austrians--which I know you aren't. His whole idea of false prosperity is based on monetary inflation, which isn't an issue again.
The Republicans especially have destructive policies. I'll grant you that, sure. But you criticised conservatism.
The most destructive Republican policies have come from abandoning conservative prescriptions.
Outsourcing is destroying our countries. Instead of all these jobs being in our own countries they're in Asia where the workers are practically slaves and the shit made is terrible quality. Im telling you what he thinks. My interest is in how he criticizes Republican economics. Conservatism in America = Republicans I'm not talking about fiscal conservatism.
33936
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:10:28 AM »
Can't exactly run around calling itself the land of the free when it doesn't combat discrimination.
Can't do it if it's forcing people to perform services they don't want to perform, either.
Freedom is for the freedom loving.
33937
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:06:04 AM »
It's discrimination if you refuse service to somebody because of their sexuality or skin color I know, I'm just saying it really isn't worth worrying about. Consumers need to have a sense of responsibility if they don't like certain business practices. I'd like to see churches marry gays, whether forced or not, but it just isn't worth it.
It is, though. Can't exactly run around calling itself the land of the free when it doesn't combat discrimination.
33938
« on: January 29, 2015, 11:01:35 AM »
This "insider" you're disregarding is David Stockman
Stockman sees a class-rebellion, a new revolution, a war against greed and the wealthy. Soon.
Considering he's equally dismissive of Democratic economics, I'd be interested to know just what this guy believes.
He's damning of how America has shipped its jobs overseas and it's living off false prosperity. I don't care about his opinions and I'd take what he says with a grain of salt, but the fact of the matter is America continues to divide itself and allow politicians to fuck everybody over. The Republicans especially have destructive policies.
33939
« on: January 29, 2015, 10:54:28 AM »
There has almost never been a time conservatism has caused progress for humanity or created a stable economy.
Just to deal with this claim:
- Reagan deserves some credit for the disinflation that occurred in the early 1980s.
- Ford's deregulation helped to spur economic growth.
- Clinton's fiscal discipline is what created the budget surpluses.
- We owe the stability of 1987-2006 to a Republican.
And that's just in the states.
Richard Nixon's gold policies get Stockman's first assault, for defaulting "on American obligations under the 1944 Bretton Woods agreement to balance our accounts with the world." So for the past 40 years, America's been living "beyond our means as a nation" on "borrowed prosperity on an epic scale ... an outcome that Milton Friedman said could never happen when, in 1971, he persuaded President Nixon to unleash on the world paper dollars no longer redeemable in gold or other fixed monetary reserves."
Remember Friedman: "Just let the free market set currency exchange rates, he said, and trade deficits will self-correct." Friedman was wrong by trillions. And unfortunately "once relieved of the discipline of defending a fixed value for their currencies, politicians the world over were free to cheapen their money and disregard their neighbors."
And without discipline America was also encouraging "global monetary chaos as foreign central banks run their own printing presses at ever faster speeds to sop up the tidal wave of dollars coming from the Federal Reserve." Yes, the road to the coming apocalypse began with a Republican president listening to a misguided Nobel economist's advice. Stockman says "the second unhappy change in the American economy has been the extraordinary growth of our public debt. In 1970 it was just 40% of gross domestic product, or about $425 billion. When it reaches $18 trillion, it will be 40 times greater than in 1970." Who's to blame? Not big-spending Dems, says Stockman, but "from the Republican Party's embrace, about three decades ago, of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts."
Back "in 1981, traditional Republicans supported tax cuts," but Stockman makes clear, they had to be "matched by spending cuts, to offset the way inflation was pushing many taxpayers into higher brackets and to spur investment. The Reagan administration's hastily prepared fiscal blueprint, however, was no match for the primordial forces -- the welfare state and the warfare state -- that drive the federal spending machine." And Clinton was/is a Democrat so I don't know why you're bringing him up.
33940
« on: January 29, 2015, 10:41:46 AM »
Government should get out of marriage period
Government should work to protect their citizens from blatant discrimination.
If that means they have to give out marriage licenses to couples a church won't wed, or to the non religious, so fucking be it.
Discrimination is being beaten up and called a faggot. A church refusing to perform a service for you is a non-issue when it comes to discrimination.
It's discrimination if you refuse service to somebody because of their sexuality or skin color, or anything else they're born with. Personally I'd love to see the government forcing churches to marry gay folks. That'd make my fucking day.
33941
« on: January 29, 2015, 10:33:26 AM »
Let me ask - what is so bad about Clinton? She has some fairly shit opinions. I don't have the sheet on me at the moment that I made comparing Clinton, Rubio and Gary Johnson but Clinton was by far and away the worst there.
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
Good to know indoctrination is a real thing
Democrats are running this country into the ground. It's a fucking blessing they lost control of the Senate
The irony.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10
For one, the Federal Reserve ruined the economy in the 70s and 80s
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm
Inflation was increasing since 1965, which led to economic situations later on
But here's a study, not some "insider", saying the Democrats ruined the economy
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-study-confirms-economy-was-destroyed-by-democrat-policies
If you want some added fun, only a mere 250K something jobs added since 2009 up til now was a collective 49 states+D.C; The conservative stronghold of Texas added the majority of over 1 million jobs since 2009
>complete lies >bullshit study misrepresenting the facts and straight up lying This "insider" you're disregarding is David Stockman, "President Ronald Reagan's director of the Office of Management and Budget". It's incredible how hard you deny the facts and then how vehemently you accuse others of what you do. Republicans nearly collapsed America.
33942
« on: January 29, 2015, 10:28:13 AM »
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
I like you too, but you're incredibly partisan, at least when it's against Republicans. Republicans, quite clearly, don't want to run the U.S. into the ground, and whether you think their policies will do that is an interesting discussion.
But let's be honest here, the Democrats who've 'endowed' the country with good economic growth have done so largely by adopting centrist/conservative policies; Kennedy's tax-cuts (ruined by the Great Society and LBJ), Clinton's appointment of Robert Rubin as head of the CEA and the maintenance of PAYGO rules. And when Republicans have fucked the economy, it's been because of profligacy a la Bush, which I have a hard time categorising as conservative.
I didn't even come out for the Republicans in my post, anyway, I just said Rubio was better than Hillary.
Of course I'm partisan when there are only two parties and one of them wants to destroy America for everybody who isn't rich. Sorry, but you're wrong. There has almost never been a time conservatism has caused progress for humanity or created a stable economy. They actively deny climate change, it's the party of racists, they're incredibly classist, they hate immigrants. There's nothing good about them.
33943
« on: January 29, 2015, 08:49:52 AM »
Let me ask - what is so bad about Clinton? She has some fairly shit opinions. I don't have the sheet on me at the moment that I made comparing Clinton, Rubio and Gary Johnson but Clinton was by far and away the worst there.
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
Good to know indoctrination is a real thing
Democrats are running this country into the ground. It's a fucking blessing they lost control of the Senate
The irony. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10
33944
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:44:25 AM »
I don't watch them because I don't have time. Would you be talking or would you just be streaming gameplay?
33945
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:28:23 AM »
And you didn't even pick me?
I did a thread asking who wanted to be in and for the last person I picked a random person.
I didn't see the thread. 
Can it even be played on mobile?
It's also on Android.
But I have an iPhone.
33946
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:27:54 AM »
Didn't they do this last year?
I don't watch the Superbowl, so hell if I know
I'll have it on so I can discuss it the next day, but it never holds my interest.
Bruh not even the commercials?
I can watch most of them now.
Gee at least I don't watch it because I can't. You're a terrible American.
33947
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:25:54 AM »
And you didn't even pick me?
I did a thread asking who wanted to be in and for the last person I picked a random person.
I didn't see the thread. Can it even be played on mobile?
33948
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:12:46 AM »
He's not really Spartain Ken is he?
He is. You can finally be reunited with your best friend.
33949
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:11:14 AM »
Tragic.
33950
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:10:07 AM »
Can we all agree that unnecessary walls of GIANT 36-pt text should at least be edited by someone?
Yeah they really should <_<
GO FUCK YOURSELVES
33951
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:05:49 AM »
>tfw you're too stealthy to be noticed 
33952
« on: January 29, 2015, 04:57:18 AM »
I played baseball and basketball. Mostly baseball though.
33953
« on: January 29, 2015, 03:39:58 AM »
Let me ask - what is so bad about Clinton? She has some fairly shit opinions. I don't have the sheet on me at the moment that I made comparing Clinton, Rubio and Gary Johnson but Clinton was by far and away the worst there.
I don't want to be rude because I like you, but you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The republicans want to do nothing but run America into the ground and have done so almost every time they've been elected.
33955
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:17:55 PM »
I want to join but can't.
Because you're black and gay?
I want to join but can't.
Same here. Health wise and physical wise I'm able to but I don't know about my speech impediment. It's slight but I don't know if it still would disqualify me.
Paperwork issues.
Because you're an illegal alien?
I'm an EU citizen. I'm just not an American resident or citizen, and that's the only country I'd serve.
Serve Bongland.
That might be a bad idea. I know you people executed people for having shell shock in WW1. And don't give me that "But that wasn't a known medical problem back then" shit.
>WW1
>2015
Don't be a spaz
Let's not forget the retarded helmets everybody was using in WW1. Literally useless. I think we can agree being part of any military during the World Wars was a fucked up experience.
33956
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:15:33 PM »
I used to say "cuzz" a lot.
33957
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:10:11 PM »
I want to join but can't.
Because you're black and gay?
I want to join but can't.
Same here. Health wise and physical wise I'm able to but I don't know about my speech impediment. It's slight but I don't know if it still would disqualify me.
Paperwork issues.
Because you're an illegal alien?
I'm an EU citizen. I'm just not an American resident or citizen, and that's the only country I'd serve.
Serve Bongland.
I might, but I doubt it.
33958
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:05:10 PM »
I want to join but can't.
Because you're black and gay?
I want to join but can't.
Same here. Health wise and physical wise I'm able to but I don't know about my speech impediment. It's slight but I don't know if it still would disqualify me.
Paperwork issues.
Because you're an illegal alien?
I'm an EU citizen. I'm just not an American resident or citizen, and that's the only country I'd serve.
33959
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:02:27 PM »
I vote England.
A cold rainy night in Stoke?
refer to your avatar
33960
« on: January 28, 2015, 06:01:25 PM »
I want to join but can't.
is it because you're black?
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