Quote from: Kernel Kraut on January 15, 2015, 08:54:07 PM

Quote from: Lord Keksworth on January 15, 2015, 08:53:01 PM

...Well, yeah. A gun that can fire half a dozen bullets in one second is probably more likely to kill somebody than a gun that fires just one bullet per trigger-squeeze.

Debatable.

It's down to cartridge, recoil, weight of the firearm, and shooter ability.

There is a reason why they call it "Full Retard."

Yeah, but at the end of the day the odds of six pieces of burning-hot metal getting fired in rapid succession is more likely to kill someone than just one.

It depends entirely on the firearm, the cartridge, the recoil, and the shooter's ability.

Look at it this way. You have your street choppers. The Infamous Mac-10. It's an open bolt sub machine gun in 9mm Luger. It's incredibly light and short. It has a cyclic rate of 1250 rounds per minute. The bolt is easily the heaviest part of the gun past the magazine. When you pull the trigger the bolt is going to slam forward, hit the primer, fire the round and scream back to continue the cycle. You have the majority of the weight slamming into the back of the gun pulling the muzzle up. You may get one or two rounds off where you aim, but the rest are going to start going wild.

Different autos have different ways to compensate. The AR and AK platform each have a recoil spring in the butt stock to reduce that felt recoil and keep the muzzle on target, but it only does so much. The M1918 Thompson had a commentator that vented gas upward at the muzzle to keep it down and prevent muzzle rise.

Fact of the matter is, it's difficult to keep your muzzle on target when firing full auto. There is literally no practical reason to use it in any situation where you can take an extra half second to line up for a second shot with a semi-auto. Unless of course you are using a firearm with almost to muzzle climb or felt recoil.

Commence libtard tears

Eh.

Automatic fire is more for suppressing an enemy than actually killing them. If you can keep the enemies head down you can get a team out to flank them and neutralize them. That's one of the big reasons why a SAW gunner is in every rifle squad. They put enough volume of fire downrange to let the other guys get into a position to kill the bad guys.

Even when you move onto Machineguns like the M240, M60, etc... It's mostly down to suppressing the enemy rather than killing them.



I see no civilian practical purpose for Full retard other than it being fun and awesome. I'd never own a full retard gun because I'd never afford the ammo. Though of the Hughes amendment was repealed and NFA took a nose dive and all new rifles were select fire, I guess I'd have one.

I'd much rather be pumping rounds downrange in semi-automatic. I care more about shot placement over volume of fire.

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on January 15, 2015, 07:49:01 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 15, 2015, 07:45:46 PM

Hey man, I liked to pretend I was a cowboy.
Except I had a .38 and not a .45
And it was a Smith and not a Colt.

lolonly.38.
Wait...

Yeah, put that in your nine and suck it.

Depends on what .38.

.380 might fit. .38acp is similar to 9 in case length. .38 special is to long unlike you.

That there looks like a GLOCK brand GLOCK chambered in 9GLOCKIMETER.

>tfw no more handfuns
>tfw my only handgun was a revolver so I couldn't have participated in this thread

scrub

But you got the 9glockimeter right.

Get your handgun, lock the slide back and insert a magazine and take a picture like mine.

We'll guess the caliber and model.

I'll start


Oh, inb4californiashit

Buy a gun, go shooting, become gleeful.

It's as simple as that.

Married to my career.

>tfw no career.

Letting Patton An Hero and not undertaking Operation Unthinkable.

Also, the brits getting rid of Churchill.

We needed an A-Team of Commie killers.

Send it to a laboratory to get it tested for its ingredients.

That's the plan.

So what is it for?

Self righteous masturbation.

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on January 13, 2015, 03:52:03 PM

I'm an expert MH-6/AH-6 pilot, an expect UH-1 Pilot, a competent F-15C pilot, a fantastic Cessna-172 pilot, and the best Cobra Mk III pilot.

Come at me.

1 v 1 me in my SU-27 bro, Ill knock your F-15 out of the sky, with the fury of Putin.

Pugachev's Cobra ain't gonna save your sorry ass from a 120 volley at 15 miles because of my superior AWACS

There I was, Assistant Auto Rifleman in Alpha 2. We had just landed on the Island of Thirsk near the town of Thirsk in the dead of winter. The was heavy cloud cover but the air was still.
 
Our objective was the town. Russians had a HQ there and we were tasked with destroying it. Simply enough task...

As we made our way toward the objective, snow crunching under our feet, the squads were alive with nervous laughter and jokes. Someone mentioning that the snow sounds like Styrofoam and others chuckling in agreement. Just then over our PRC-343 we get a report from Alpha 1 that they had spotted contact about 300 meters to our front. My team was not in a position to see the contact so we maneuvered into a firing position. But before we can really do anything, the contact passes by and ignores us. In the end, this may have been a good thing. We had a terrible position. My team and Alpha 3 were deep in defilade. Behind us was a ridge and to retreat would mean climbing a hill under enemy fire.

Comamand moved us closer to the beach. Thirsk is a small island and the town has a beach on it's eastern side. This beach was considerably lower in elevation than the town. Maybe 10 meters?  Well as soon as we got close we were spotted and all hell broke loose. PKM and Ak-74 fire was almost incessant. I huddled behind a rock trying my best to call targets for my Auto-rifleman. before I knew it, our Fire team lead was dead. The Auto rifleman took command. That's when the GP-25 gernades started landing. I took a hit from shrapnel. By this time Alpha 1 and 3 were smoking the shit out of the beach giving us some minor concealment. So, I managed to bandage and get the call for a medic out.

This is when it really started turning to shit.

Bravo Squad had been pinned in the forest we were in. They were literally getting ripped apart. Sporadic 7.62x54r bullets from PKMs, almost constant 5.45x39 fire from AK-74s, occasional GP-25 rifle grenades and to our terror, the sound of a 20mm Auto cannon. In time the friendly M-16 and M249 fire slowed and then stopped. Bravo had, while not quite wiped, but decimated beyond combat effectiveness. They moved to link up with us.

Problem was, Bravo brought the hell to us. While we were under fire, they were in a maelstrom of angry slavs. At this time I am hit again and pass out. When I wake up, my team is dead save for the team's Rifleman. There we were, huddled behind a rock under sporadic fire. That's when I heard it. The slow lumbering roar of a tracked vehicle. it was the owner of the autocanon that had fucked up Bravo. Thankfully my Rifleman had an AT4 light anti-tank launcher. He fired and the M136 rocket hit home. The armor, a BMP-3, started cookin off hard. The PKT ammunition belts exploded and the 20mm cannon rounds flew off into all directions. It was like fourth of July. Theeeeen another one rolled up. My Rifleman caught a PKT burst and died.

So there I was, cowered behind a rock, crying, as an angry Russian armored vehicle looked for me. Finally it fucked off looking for other days to ruin. So I scavenged what I could off the rifleman. A bandage and a few extra mags is all I got. Over my squads channel was the call for a general retreat. So I got up and started running back North. Thats when an Angel of mercy came in in the form of an AH-1Z Super Cobra. Halle-fuckin-lujah. It was then promptly ripped apart by 20mm Auto cannon fire.

That's when it felt like something jumped up and bit me in the buttocks. Except this thing crippled me and killed my legs. I had to crawl the rest of the way to the extract. I bandaged and started my journey, passing out two more times before finally passing out on the beach, on a desolate wintery island, with hundreds of Russians crawling all over the place.

ArmA 2, Losing is fun.

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on January 12, 2015, 11:13:23 PM

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Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 12, 2015, 10:42:57 PM

Side note: is it wrong or distasteful that i totally want one of these to put inbetween the two NRA stickers in my back windsheild?

Are you American? Then No because by definition, you are one.

You're god damn right I'm an american.

Therefore It's my Allah given right to open carry two 1911's on each hip and a Glorious Stoner Freedom Thrower across my chest.

Don't forget your pig blood tipped bullets too!

Oh hey, here's those pictures I said I'd take for you.

That's a Trapdoor alright. As far as I know they were only ever made in 45-70. I'll do some research.

BINGO!

Springfield Model 1866. Chambered in .50/70.

Go hunt some buffalo now.

I will get right the fuck on that as soon as I find a buffalo.

Catalina Island off the coast of Long Beach California is full of the fuckers.

There once was a man from nantucket
Who dreamed he lived in a bucket
He saw a poo and had to take one too
So he woke up and said fuckit