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The Flood / Re: Rules are for fools
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:37:26 PM »
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The Flood / Re: Rules are for fools
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:35:32 PM »
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You must follow any policies made available to you within the Services.

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Open source software is important to us. Some software used in our Services may be offered under an open source license that we will make available to you. There may be provisions in the open source license that expressly override some of these terms.

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We are constantly changing and improving our Services. We may add or remove functionalities or features, and we may suspend or stop a Service altogether.

You can stop using our Services at any time, although we’ll be sorry to see you go. Google may also stop providing Services to you, or add or create new limits to our Services at any time.

We believe that you own your data and preserving your access to such data is important. If we discontinue a Service, where reasonably possible, we will give you reasonable advance notice and a chance to get information out of that Service.

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We provide our Services using a commercially reasonable level of skill and care and we hope that you will enjoy using them. But there are certain things that we don’t promise about our Services.

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SOME JURISDICTIONS PROVIDE FOR CERTAIN WARRANTIES, LIKE THE IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NON-INFRINGEMENT. TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, WE EXCLUDE ALL WARRANTIES.

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WHEN PERMITTED BY LAW, GOOGLE, AND GOOGLE’S SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST PROFITS, REVENUES, OR DATA, FINANCIAL LOSSES OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR PUNITIVE DAMAGES.

TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW, THE TOTAL LIABILITY OF GOOGLE, AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, FOR ANY CLAIMS UNDER THESE TERMS, INCLUDING FOR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES, IS LIMITED TO THE AMOUNT YOU PAID US TO USE THE SERVICES (OR, IF WE CHOOSE, TO SUPPLYING YOU THE SERVICES AGAIN).

IN ALL CASES, GOOGLE, AND ITS SUPPLIERS AND DISTRIBUTORS, WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE THAT IS NOT REASONABLY FORESEEABLE.

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If you are using our Services on behalf of a business, that business accepts these terms. It will hold harmless and indemnify Google and its affiliates, officers, agents, and employees from any claim, suit or action arising from or related to the use of the Services or violation of these terms, including any liability or expense arising from claims, losses, damages, suits, judgments, litigation costs and attorneys’ fees.

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We may modify these terms or any additional terms that apply to a Service to, for example, reflect changes to the law or changes to our Services. You should look at the terms regularly. We’ll post notice of modifications to these terms on this page. We’ll post notice of modified additional terms in the applicable Service. Changes will not apply retroactively and will become effective no sooner than fourteen days after they are posted. However, changes addressing new functions for a Service or changes made for legal reasons will be effective immediately. If you do not agree to the modified terms for a Service, you should discontinue your use of that Service.

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The Flood / Re: Rules are for fools
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:30:23 PM »
Please read the rules before you post!
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You just can't handle the truth.

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The Flood / Re: Rules are for fools
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:27:22 PM »
Das is 2skool4tools

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The Flood / Rules are for fools
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:24:58 PM »
Prove me wrong :^)

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The Flood / Re: I'm just gonna leave this here.
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:19:43 PM »


Revolver Ocelot
Revolver Ocelot
[Revolver Ocelot]
Spoiler
revolver ocelot

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The Flood / Re: Joining this community is like joining a gang
« on: February 27, 2015, 09:16:32 PM »
And just like every gang, I'm the police informant and I've fallen to deep into the crime aspect of the job. I'm going to have to fake my own death before either I get found out, or commit a crime that I pushes me over the precipice of law enforcement to criminal scum.

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The Flood / Re: Do you dislike sports?
« on: February 27, 2015, 03:16:46 PM »
I enjoy going to the occasional baseball game. All the better when I go with my lady friend.
I also do like to hit shit with a baseball bat on occasion.

I'd love to go out and see a 3 gun competition. That'd be fucking awesome.
I shoot trap, though not competitively.
I'd love to go to a competition trap or skeet shoot and watch

I enjoy Fishing and Hunting.
I'd love to get out and see the Reno Air Races.

So yes, I do like sports.

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The Flood / Re: Leanard Nimoy has died
« on: February 27, 2015, 12:20:19 PM »
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rip
I already posted it :D

FUCK, MY LIFE IS RUINED. WHELP, TIME TO OFF MY SELF.

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The Flood / Re: Leanard Nimoy has died
« on: February 27, 2015, 12:14:24 PM »
YouTube


rip

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The Flood / Re: 13 Childhood Photos of Humanities most Evil people!
« on: February 26, 2015, 06:23:02 PM »
I take exception with the Hirohito one.

Hirohito was little more than a figurehead. He had no real power over the course that Japan took during World War II. Hideki Tojo was the man behind the brutality that Japan committed. Of course a lot of that brutality was seated in their culture at the time. But Hirohito had little to no influence in the grand scheme of things. I would hardly call him evil, he just happened to exist in a time when evil was committed.

If it's any indication, Hirohito was aloud to remain as the 'Emperor' till his death in 1989.

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The Flood / Re: I'm going to a open gun store
« on: February 25, 2015, 01:40:56 PM »
As long as you sell muskets, everything will be fine.

Who'd buy a musket from a gun store? You can have them shipped to your house.

Do you have any AR15s?
We sell AR15s and AR15 accessories I tell you hwat.

Will you give me free ammo?
Depends, do you have a dong hat?

We will really push hi-points in .40 ghetto blaster
but muh nine, hommie

9? Niggas ain't got time for dat shiet. It's .40 Ghetto Blaster homie.

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The Flood / Re: We need to start a Crusade against people with Autism
« on: February 25, 2015, 12:31:30 PM »
Deus Vult!

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The Flood / I'm going to a open gun store
« on: February 25, 2015, 12:29:36 PM »
It will be called "Kernel Kraut's Rooty Tooty Point and Snooty Emporium." All staff will wear funny hats. For every gun purchase you get a free funny hat. But, you have to wear the hat home, we get to choose the hat from a mystery box at random and 10% of the hats are mildly offensive.


We will really push hi-points in .40 ghetto blaster

Good idea?

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Skew Chisel. A sharp, flat tool with a bevel on both sides. One point is 'higher' than the other giving you a clean edged cutting surface.

If you fuck up, the work will take that chisel and impale your neighbor's daughter killing her and forcing him to pay for a funeral.

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 24, 2015, 12:35:14 AM »


Dude.....I live in a completely flat province, with high winds almost all year round. There are miles and miles of fucking fields. Just flat, flammable fields. And get this.

FARMERS LIGHT THEIR FIELDS ON FIRE AT THE END OF CROP SEASON.

Are you fucking telling me that freedomslovia is afraid of a fucking flare gun? I mean I understand flammability warnings. There's a lot of fires in this province if somebody can't keep their field burning under control or lightening hits the wrong spot.

But I mean fuck. If my shitty little old province can do it then your state can too. Although, then again, americants are afraid of healthcare too.

You know what? Fuck it. Just stick to AC/DC's old addage.

Fire your guns.

look at it this way.

We've been in a drought for the better part of ten years. We have many places with old growth chapparal scrubland that hasen't burned in decades. We have mountain passes and valleys that funnel hot dry winds from the center of the continent to the ocean.

When we get fires in our mountains they burn hot, and they burn fast. The fires get started, get fanned by the hot dry Santa Ana winds blowing out of the east. The fire then grows big enough to form it's own wind systems which makes it worse. It starts to burn the old growth essentially native dead bushes and gets hotter and more intense.

To make matter worse, the fires are not defined by a line of flame. They spot with the wind. Embers and sparks get blow for miles all around the fire starting smaller spot fires. Combined with the verticality of the mountains that make it incredibly difficult to traverse the terrain to fight the fires, we get some pretty wild fire seasons.

It's not uncommon for a fire to start late in the afternoon and burn a thousand acres by night fall. It's not uncommon for a fire to burn tens of thousands of acres in a week.

That's why we can only use flare guns in extreme situations. Even then if you start a fire, you will get finned regardless of the circumstances.
Gee, if only you guys got normal levels of rainfall and norcal didn't have to subsidize your welfare queen cities...
So-cal is a desert and no amount of wishful thinking and water syphoning will ever change that.

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 24, 2015, 12:21:38 AM »


Dude.....I live in a completely flat province, with high winds almost all year round. There are miles and miles of fucking fields. Just flat, flammable fields. And get this.

FARMERS LIGHT THEIR FIELDS ON FIRE AT THE END OF CROP SEASON.

Are you fucking telling me that freedomslovia is afraid of a fucking flare gun? I mean I understand flammability warnings. There's a lot of fires in this province if somebody can't keep their field burning under control or lightening hits the wrong spot.

But I mean fuck. If my shitty little old province can do it then your state can too. Although, then again, americants are afraid of healthcare too.

You know what? Fuck it. Just stick to AC/DC's old addage.

Fire your guns.

look at it this way.

We've been in a drought for the better part of ten years. We have many places with old growth chapparal scrubland that hasen't burned in decades. We have mountain passes and valleys that funnel hot dry winds from the center of the continent to the ocean.

When we get fires in our mountains they burn hot, and they burn fast. The fires get started, get fanned by the hot dry Santa Ana winds blowing out of the east. The fire then grows big enough to form it's own wind systems which makes it worse. It starts to burn the old growth essentially native dead bushes and gets hotter and more intense.

To make matter worse, the fires are not defined by a line of flame. They spot with the wind. Embers and sparks get blow for miles all around the fire starting smaller spot fires. Combined with the verticality of the mountains that make it incredibly difficult to traverse the terrain to fight the fires, we get some pretty wild fire seasons.

It's not uncommon for a fire to start late in the afternoon and burn a thousand acres by night fall. It's not uncommon for a fire to burn tens of thousands of acres in a week.

That's why we can only use flare guns in extreme situations. Even then if you start a fire, you will get finned regardless of the circumstances.

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 24, 2015, 12:15:31 AM »
But kraut
don't you live innadesert?

Extreme western edge of the Mojave. I'm technically in scrub land. West of us is Chapparal then forested mountains, then after the mountains more chapparal.

This is about 1500 feet higher than my place. It's low grass with medium sized bushes to small trees You get areas where it will turn into dense shrubby thickets with knee high dead grass.

I am on the edge of the desert, we get a lot of Chapparal like plants, such as pinyon pine, but we also get typical desert plants like Greasewood and Cholla cactus. We still get a lot of low grass that dries out and dies by early summer. So if we got set on fire, we'd burn fast.

I remember a number of years ago we had a fire come down out of the leeward side of the mountains. That's the side that faces us. It burned right up to the city limits, and parts of town was evacuated. If it didn't stop it would have kept burning through into the desert, but the city actually served as a somewhat effective fire break.

Don't even get me started on the local mountains. It's like a fucking tinderbox.

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:54:02 PM »
Well, here's the thing. Take a look at your options. Let's say for instance that one night your card comes calling and it's your lucky night. Rapist mugger shows up. You either

A) Have nothing to defend yourself with
B) Have something to defend yourself with

There's plenty of other scenarios and of course, simply having a gun on you might not even help you if he gets the jump on you from behind. But for all intents and purposes, let's just say it's face to face and you know his intent.

To give an example, Canadian laws are a lot stricter here. In general, everything falls down to the police to do. And that's fair. But at the same time, if you defend yourself from a home invasion you yourself can be fined. Hell if the home invader was an asshole they could play the legal system and sue you.

But think of it like this. Would you really let somebody break into your home and not defend yourself and wait for the police? You could be dead by the time they show up. Or in some other horrible situation.

This same rule applies to you although I assume you're american.

Except that your issue is, while you can legally defend yourself if attacked, if the authorities find out that you used an unlicensed firearm or god forbid you kill the dude, you'll be in shit.

My best advice is to think of another weapon. Something that's small, easy to carry, easy to hide, and has no chance of killing the attacker but gives you enough room to defend yourself.

For example. Bear Spray. Anybody who gets hit with that shit WILL NOT fight. They won't even be able to stand.

If the attacker hasn't used a gun yet, then don't escalate things.

I take issue with both Tazers (not tazers, but rather stun guns since Tazers are verboten) and Mace/bear spray.

A key defensive principle is to put as much distance between you and your aggressor. A stun gun requires you to be in physical contact with an aggressor to be effective. Not to mention people who are just naturally resistant to the shock put out by a stun gun. If you cannot retreat from someone who wants to cause you harm, are you really going to want to let them get close enough to touch?

Pepper Spray/Bear spray are a little more ranged, but you are still within 10 feet of the threat. Not to mention that both are indiscriminate in how the operate. A rogue gust can render your spray useless and you could gas your self like it was Verdun all over again. Not to mention individuals who have built up a tolerance to CS gas in general. There are crazy fucks outside of correctional officers who actually spray them selves to build tolerance to it.

What you need in a defensive situation is what's called "Stand Off Capability." The ability to put distance between your self an a threat while maintaining an ability to engage from that distance should the need arise. Neither Stun Guns nor spray really fill this role. They are both close range weapons, and being close could mean being dead.

Well, then it's your call. I don't know about you, but another defensive tool you can use that technically doesn't break the law is a flare gun. You can legally own a flaregun. At least, up here you can.

However. There is the problem of how much damage a flare gun can do. Phosphorus burns and sticks. Hit somebody with that and they're going to be in a lot of pain. Will it kill them? Hard to say. But then again, if you're carrying a gun does it really matter?

But I can garuntee you no mother fucker burns themselves with phosphorus fire to build up an immunity to it. And even if you miss the shot, a flare is a bright mother fucker. Enough to not only alert somebody, but also potentially blind your attacker giving you the chance to run.

The key here is escape.

Pft, Flare Guns? In California? For non-boating use? That's hilarious.

Dude I live in fucking Saskatchewan. The nearest ocean is two provinces away and the biggest fucking lake we have is a puddle compared to the great lakes.

And I could probably go to my local co-op convienence store or gas station and buy a flare gun. Or alternately, order one and have it shipped over in a week.

We have issues with...flammability.


Flare guns are only legal for use as a maritime signaling device here. To much threat of fire otherwise.
Just maritime?

I could have sworn there was an FAA regulation regarding them and title 91 or commercial aircraft... or maybe that was just for flight over water like the life vest regulations....

There might be. But it's pretty much for signaling only. We can't use them for anything else because it's to much fun...and potentially combustible.

We can't even use phosphorous tracers :(

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:47:31 PM »
Well, here's the thing. Take a look at your options. Let's say for instance that one night your card comes calling and it's your lucky night. Rapist mugger shows up. You either

A) Have nothing to defend yourself with
B) Have something to defend yourself with

There's plenty of other scenarios and of course, simply having a gun on you might not even help you if he gets the jump on you from behind. But for all intents and purposes, let's just say it's face to face and you know his intent.

To give an example, Canadian laws are a lot stricter here. In general, everything falls down to the police to do. And that's fair. But at the same time, if you defend yourself from a home invasion you yourself can be fined. Hell if the home invader was an asshole they could play the legal system and sue you.

But think of it like this. Would you really let somebody break into your home and not defend yourself and wait for the police? You could be dead by the time they show up. Or in some other horrible situation.

This same rule applies to you although I assume you're american.

Except that your issue is, while you can legally defend yourself if attacked, if the authorities find out that you used an unlicensed firearm or god forbid you kill the dude, you'll be in shit.

My best advice is to think of another weapon. Something that's small, easy to carry, easy to hide, and has no chance of killing the attacker but gives you enough room to defend yourself.

For example. Bear Spray. Anybody who gets hit with that shit WILL NOT fight. They won't even be able to stand.

If the attacker hasn't used a gun yet, then don't escalate things.

I take issue with both Tazers (not tazers, but rather stun guns since Tazers are verboten) and Mace/bear spray.

A key defensive principle is to put as much distance between you and your aggressor. A stun gun requires you to be in physical contact with an aggressor to be effective. Not to mention people who are just naturally resistant to the shock put out by a stun gun. If you cannot retreat from someone who wants to cause you harm, are you really going to want to let them get close enough to touch?

Pepper Spray/Bear spray are a little more ranged, but you are still within 10 feet of the threat. Not to mention that both are indiscriminate in how the operate. A rogue gust can render your spray useless and you could gas your self like it was Verdun all over again. Not to mention individuals who have built up a tolerance to CS gas in general. There are crazy fucks outside of correctional officers who actually spray them selves to build tolerance to it.

What you need in a defensive situation is what's called "Stand Off Capability." The ability to put distance between your self an a threat while maintaining an ability to engage from that distance should the need arise. Neither Stun Guns nor spray really fill this role. They are both close range weapons, and being close could mean being dead.

Well, then it's your call. I don't know about you, but another defensive tool you can use that technically doesn't break the law is a flare gun. You can legally own a flaregun. At least, up here you can.

However. There is the problem of how much damage a flare gun can do. Phosphorus burns and sticks. Hit somebody with that and they're going to be in a lot of pain. Will it kill them? Hard to say. But then again, if you're carrying a gun does it really matter?

But I can garuntee you no mother fucker burns themselves with phosphorus fire to build up an immunity to it. And even if you miss the shot, a flare is a bright mother fucker. Enough to not only alert somebody, but also potentially blind your attacker giving you the chance to run.

The key here is escape.

Pft, Flare Guns? In California? For non-boating use? That's hilarious.

Dude I live in fucking Saskatchewan. The nearest ocean is two provinces away and the biggest fucking lake we have is a puddle compared to the great lakes.

And I could probably go to my local co-op convienence store or gas station and buy a flare gun. Or alternately, order one and have it shipped over in a week.

We have issues with...flammability.


Flare guns are only legal for use as a maritime signaling device here. To much threat of fire otherwise. 

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:35:48 PM »
Well, here's the thing. Take a look at your options. Let's say for instance that one night your card comes calling and it's your lucky night. Rapist mugger shows up. You either

A) Have nothing to defend yourself with
B) Have something to defend yourself with

There's plenty of other scenarios and of course, simply having a gun on you might not even help you if he gets the jump on you from behind. But for all intents and purposes, let's just say it's face to face and you know his intent.

To give an example, Canadian laws are a lot stricter here. In general, everything falls down to the police to do. And that's fair. But at the same time, if you defend yourself from a home invasion you yourself can be fined. Hell if the home invader was an asshole they could play the legal system and sue you.

But think of it like this. Would you really let somebody break into your home and not defend yourself and wait for the police? You could be dead by the time they show up. Or in some other horrible situation.

This same rule applies to you although I assume you're american.

Except that your issue is, while you can legally defend yourself if attacked, if the authorities find out that you used an unlicensed firearm or god forbid you kill the dude, you'll be in shit.

My best advice is to think of another weapon. Something that's small, easy to carry, easy to hide, and has no chance of killing the attacker but gives you enough room to defend yourself.

For example. Bear Spray. Anybody who gets hit with that shit WILL NOT fight. They won't even be able to stand.

If the attacker hasn't used a gun yet, then don't escalate things.

I take issue with both Tazers (not tazers, but rather stun guns since Tazers are verboten) and Mace/bear spray.

A key defensive principle is to put as much distance between you and your aggressor. A stun gun requires you to be in physical contact with an aggressor to be effective. Not to mention people who are just naturally resistant to the shock put out by a stun gun. If you cannot retreat from someone who wants to cause you harm, are you really going to want to let them get close enough to touch?

Pepper Spray/Bear spray are a little more ranged, but you are still within 10 feet of the threat. Not to mention that both are indiscriminate in how the operate. A rogue gust can render your spray useless and you could gas your self like it was Verdun all over again. Not to mention individuals who have built up a tolerance to CS gas in general. There are crazy fucks outside of correctional officers who actually spray them selves to build tolerance to it.

What you need in a defensive situation is what's called "Stand Off Capability." The ability to put distance between your self an a threat while maintaining an ability to engage from that distance should the need arise. Neither Stun Guns nor spray really fill this role. They are both close range weapons, and being close could mean being dead.

Well, then it's your call. I don't know about you, but another defensive tool you can use that technically doesn't break the law is a flare gun. You can legally own a flaregun. At least, up here you can.

However. There is the problem of how much damage a flare gun can do. Phosphorus burns and sticks. Hit somebody with that and they're going to be in a lot of pain. Will it kill them? Hard to say. But then again, if you're carrying a gun does it really matter?

But I can garuntee you no mother fucker burns themselves with phosphorus fire to build up an immunity to it. And even if you miss the shot, a flare is a bright mother fucker. Enough to not only alert somebody, but also potentially blind your attacker giving you the chance to run.

The key here is escape.

Pft, Flare Guns? In California? For non-boating use? That's hilarious.

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:21:35 PM »
Well, here's the thing. Take a look at your options. Let's say for instance that one night your card comes calling and it's your lucky night. Rapist mugger shows up. You either

A) Have nothing to defend yourself with
B) Have something to defend yourself with

There's plenty of other scenarios and of course, simply having a gun on you might not even help you if he gets the jump on you from behind. But for all intents and purposes, let's just say it's face to face and you know his intent.

To give an example, Canadian laws are a lot stricter here. In general, everything falls down to the police to do. And that's fair. But at the same time, if you defend yourself from a home invasion you yourself can be fined. Hell if the home invader was an asshole they could play the legal system and sue you.

But think of it like this. Would you really let somebody break into your home and not defend yourself and wait for the police? You could be dead by the time they show up. Or in some other horrible situation.

This same rule applies to you although I assume you're american.

Except that your issue is, while you can legally defend yourself if attacked, if the authorities find out that you used an unlicensed firearm or god forbid you kill the dude, you'll be in shit.

My best advice is to think of another weapon. Something that's small, easy to carry, easy to hide, and has no chance of killing the attacker but gives you enough room to defend yourself.

For example. Bear Spray. Anybody who gets hit with that shit WILL NOT fight. They won't even be able to stand.

If the attacker hasn't used a gun yet, then don't escalate things.

I take issue with both Tazers (not tazers, but rather stun guns since Tazers are verboten) and Mace/bear spray.

A key defensive principle is to put as much distance between you and your aggressor. A stun gun requires you to be in physical contact with an aggressor to be effective. Not to mention people who are just naturally resistant to the shock put out by a stun gun. If you cannot retreat from someone who wants to cause you harm, are you really going to want to let them get close enough to touch?

Pepper Spray/Bear spray are a little more ranged, but you are still within 10 feet of the threat. Not to mention that both are indiscriminate in how the operate. A rogue gust can render your spray useless and you could gas your self like it was Verdun all over again. Not to mention individuals who have built up a tolerance to CS gas in general. There are crazy fucks outside of correctional officers who actually spray them selves to build tolerance to it.

What you need in a defensive situation is what's called "Stand Off Capability." The ability to put distance between your self an a threat while maintaining an ability to engage from that distance should the need arise. Neither Stun Guns nor spray really fill this role. They are both close range weapons, and being close could mean being dead.

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:06:06 PM »
You can break the law if you think it will make your life better. However, you risk facing consequences for doing such. It's better to get a permission, and keep the whole matter quiet. Never show or use your gun unless it's last resort. Keep the ammo and the gun separated.
I would never advise to keep the ammunition and the gun separated when carrying. It's a bad idea and it gives the attacker several extra seconds to get to you. Often time those are several extra seconds that you don't have. If you really don't trust yourself with the ammo and the gun together, the most I would ever except would be keeping the loaded magazine in the gun but the chamber empty. Even then, that's stretching it. If you're prepared to carry a firearm and use it in self-defense, you should be prepared to keep it loaded.

YouTube

YouTube

I dunno man, I had a habit of only loading five because old wheel gun and carrying on an empty chamber.
If you trained at it, it shouldn't take much more time to slide your action on a modern handgun, or even do it on the draw.

I only feel comfortable walking with a red m16 because it's in my hands and nothing but my thumb can fuck with that safety.
Refer to the videos above
I watched them.

And dry running with some reenactor-type prop-like weaponry, I don't think that girl reacted as fast as one could

I mean, I'm drunk, and it's still one fluid, quick motion from this
Spoiler
to this
Spoiler
Even with this stupidly long barrel that would be beyond reasonable for a CCW.
Revolvers are a completely different concept when it comes to having an empty chamber. I personally still wouldn't take the chance.
There can't be that much a time difference between cocking a hammer and pulling a slide, right?
I mean, yeah, I little further to move, but still... a similar draw can be made, right?
Do you even own a semi-automatic handgun? Cocking a hammer and racking a slide are two completely different motions that each require different applications of force. With a hammer, all you need is your thumb on one hand, With a slide, you need an entire free hand. If you are prepared to carry, you should be prepared to carry loaded.
No, I don't. That's why I'm asking these questions, and why if I ever get another handgun I'm going to be biased towards snubnose revolvers.
DAS

tell the truth now

are you a fudd?

DAS sounds like a fudd. I mean, look at that Colt Navy he has. It's a fucking COLT FUCKING NAVY
Well, it's actually just a cap gun model designed for reenactors on a budget.

poorfag

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 10:58:27 PM »
You can break the law if you think it will make your life better. However, you risk facing consequences for doing such. It's better to get a permission, and keep the whole matter quiet. Never show or use your gun unless it's last resort. Keep the ammo and the gun separated.
I would never advise to keep the ammunition and the gun separated when carrying. It's a bad idea and it gives the attacker several extra seconds to get to you. Often time those are several extra seconds that you don't have. If you really don't trust yourself with the ammo and the gun together, the most I would ever except would be keeping the loaded magazine in the gun but the chamber empty. Even then, that's stretching it. If you're prepared to carry a firearm and use it in self-defense, you should be prepared to keep it loaded.

YouTube

YouTube

I dunno man, I had a habit of only loading five because old wheel gun and carrying on an empty chamber.
If you trained at it, it shouldn't take much more time to slide your action on a modern handgun, or even do it on the draw.

I only feel comfortable walking with a red m16 because it's in my hands and nothing but my thumb can fuck with that safety.
Refer to the videos above
I watched them.

And dry running with some reenactor-type prop-like weaponry, I don't think that girl reacted as fast as one could

I mean, I'm drunk, and it's still one fluid, quick motion from this
Spoiler
to this
Spoiler
Even with this stupidly long barrel that would be beyond reasonable for a CCW.
Revolvers are a completely different concept when it comes to having an empty chamber. I personally still wouldn't take the chance.
There can't be that much a time difference between cocking a hammer and pulling a slide, right?
I mean, yeah, I little further to move, but still... a similar draw can be made, right?
Do you even own a semi-automatic handgun? Cocking a hammer and racking a slide are two completely different motions that each require different applications of force. With a hammer, all you need is your thumb on one hand, With a slide, you need an entire free hand. If you are prepared to carry, you should be prepared to carry loaded.
No, I don't. That's why I'm asking these questions, and why if I ever get another handgun I'm going to be biased towards snubnose revolvers.
DAS

tell the truth now

are you a fudd?

DAS sounds like a fudd. I mean, look at that Colt Navy he has. It's a fucking COLT FUCKING NAVY

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 07:51:07 PM »
I have before... I don't think I'd do it again since I'm not exactly a dumb teen running to the city at night. And I don't have a handgun anymore. Shit, I technically even owned that illegally.
Be super fucking mindful of your weapon printing if you do, man.

I have a shit load of shirts i cal CC Shirts. They're long and loose. Im also acquiring sone long button up shirts too. But i agree, i need to see how bad they print with iwb

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The Flood / Re: would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 07:41:18 PM »
In your situation, yeah.

Just don't get caught. I think it's reasonable to carry a weapon given all that has happened.

Well i got my pocket knife, but im fucking boned if i have to actually pull it on soneone. But, its better than nothing.

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The Flood / Re: A tornado... in California?
« on: February 23, 2015, 07:37:33 PM »
Not unusual. We so-calers get the occasionally. We had one in la late last year.

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The Flood / would you break the law if it made you safer?
« on: February 23, 2015, 07:36:01 PM »
I'm really considering getting my ccw and carrying on campus at college. Thing is, California has no campus carry, and I'd need the permission of the president of the school.

I have a really late class that lets out at 8-9 in a secluded part of the campus. There are 6 of us in the class. Last month two students were attacked, one girl sexually assaulte,  oneman was almost mugged at knife point. They think it was the same guy, and he was never caught. These attacks happened in the same part of campus and the same time that my class lets out.

Given my situation, would you, after taking legal steps for permission, carry regardless. Would you break the law if it meant your safety?


No, im not doing that. I dont have the permit, and if i applied, it would take more time to get it than there are weeks of class. Noy only that, but i talked to the president about it, and he seemed willing to give out permission.

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The Flood / Re: Do you know why I'm Mad?
« on: February 23, 2015, 04:57:38 PM »
It's because you're a white-guilt racked liberal welfare queen, isn't it?

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The Flood / Re: You meet the Girl of your dreams.
« on: February 22, 2015, 11:51:24 PM »
Considering in the coming years and even now I take on the role of a good uncle to my little niece, kids are no problem for me. Actually, if anything, the only thing wrong with this entire scenario is the girl of your dreams part. Fuckin' a give me a break lol.

Embellishment for reasons.

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