oh so no "stop posting class" in this thread, but I make a thread about Clover doing DXM and everyone loses their minds

Everybody fits into the box I make for them because I use the relevant information at hand to make the box, which can be remade at any time if any parameter shifts to prove me wrong. So far you haven't done anything to disprove my inklings about you.

Which is unfortunate because that means that as long as I visit here I'll probably predominantly have to put up with your mildly irritating lapses of drug induced insanity or verbal detritus. And that sucks.

I’ll be the first to prove you wrong!

Quote from: SecondClass on July 30, 2020, 03:47:22 PM

Gonna break my rule and talk to you for a little bit. Maybe I can lend some outside perspective to what's otherwise a closed group of people who've made all the arguments that already could be made. I've been here since January, I think. So I've seen a pretty diverse array of what you demonstrate as forum behavior. I know forum behavior isn't the go-to for knowing what a person's like in real life, but how a person interacts online is a damn fine gauge for judging what's going on with one's mental state.

As a new person here, the picture you paint to me is that of instability. Your mood seems to fluctuate constantly on a dime normally, never mind when you're doing drugs(that's another train fuck of nope all together). In most conversations I've seen you interact in, there's little of real substance, it's like you're not even there as a person, just ranting in a daze. On most occassions you're engaging in slap fights with other members of this forum. And if anybody tries to pin anything down on you, there's immediate behavior centered around deflecting it or playing a pity card and calling yourself a victim. What you call zany can be described as flaky. Most people don't tend to like flaky people, because they're erratic as fuck and unstable.

Almost everything that I've seen you do on here is like an attempt to jab your way to somebody's attention. You make some outlandish or weird thread and then inevitably end up getting into a slap fight when the same members wander in and tell you to fuck off. You tend to go quiet for a bit and then sometimes re-emerge a few days later, and make some post while clearly high as a fucking kite, and then rinse and repeat.

This forum is evidently slow as molasses, but I don't mind it here as it breaks the monotony of all the other places I visit. But it really is a tired sight for me to see when I jump on here and see the front page littered with your weird ass shit, because I've seen the same behavior in a dozen other places over the years and it gets old quick.

So ya. You act like a loon and you're a fucking druggie to boot. You don't do much of anything but spew vapid shit in an attempt to reel in some commentary, and on the odd occassion I've seen you converse with people coherently, I'm pretty sure it's just another avenue to reel people in for another dose of flaky shit.

All of it just reeks of.... fuck if I know. A lot of shit. If I didn't give you the benefit of the doubt as being slightly different irl then I'd say you're disturbed, heavily. Nobody likes dealing with disturbed people, less so with ones that cause endless levels of strife. And you wonder why people here get their pitchforks out.

Thank you for this actual answer. Now I know what to work on!

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Sorry that being unpopular isn't a bannable offense!

Actually it is and I think that's exactly why you should be banned

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The forum staff reserves the right to remove you, and your content, from the forums for any reason, without warning. This was agreed upon registration to the site.

And most importantly, do you really want this site to literally be a circlejerk? Because that's what you'd make it if you start banning people who you dislike.

Nah just you

Also what are you talking about justified? Like in a courtroom? This is a community for people to hang out. There's no obligation to be inclusive or have free speech

Wrong. All communities should be inclusive by nature, and yes removing someone from it because they're not popular enough to "hang out" is awful, twisted, and very indicative of what kind of person you are.

Communities are exclusive by nature. They exclude people who don't share the same values and ideas. Nobody wants to ban you because you aren't popular, we want to ban you because you're an asshole

This is why I hate society ngl, because this is probably closer to the truth than I'm willing to admit. I'd like to have more faith in the goodness of people, but I'm sure tons of people have this exact evil mindset.

Like this isn't even an asshole mindset to have - it's an evil one.

Would you include murderers and rapists in your community?

After they've been rehabilitated, are truly remorseful, and have served their time in prison, of course.

If not, they would just have life in prison. And in a way, that's being part of the community in an exiled form anyway. NOW, how the hell do you equate being disliked to being a rapist? What's wrong with you?

It's not up to any of us whether she listens; it's all on her.

Listen to what?

Not a single one of you has even given me any advice, not a single one of you has helped me, and all you've done is endlessly chant the meaningless phrase "you need help" which is such a vague and noncommittal buzzline. It's not even an actual suggestion - it's an insult meant to further the narrative that I'm not completely sane.

No one has been able to show any evidence or indication of me being insane, and when I bring that up, I get the circular "well that's why you need mental help, none of us can diagnose you." I could say the same thing about literally anyone. "I can't diagnose you so you need a professional to do it." No one is considering the second option: that this insistence on my lack of sanity says more about this forum than it does about me. None of you actually respond when I genuinely ask for specific advice on what you'd like to see from me, and it's beginning to get to the point why I wonder why I even still care about what you think of me.

Like I seriously cannot see why - I lack the capacity to see why - I get such a bad rap on here, other than the fact I used to use drugs, and I'm confident in myself.

Verbatim summed it up like this a while ago:

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Quote from: FatherlyNick 🇷🇺 on July 21, 2020, 08:34:43 AM

Whats with the sudden influx of hate towards SC? Or is this the latest meme trend?
Did class do something nasty that I missed? I mean his posts were always somewhat Loaf-esque but actually made sense. Have I missed something?

what do you mean sudden? ever since the sucking-hobo-dick-for-meth story, the hatred levels have been pretty much the same

if it's ramped up lately, it's only because she continues to be an obnoxious strung-out failure in virtually every aspect of life and people are just so tired of it

But even THAT doesn't answer it. If that was the issue, people would at least pity me and not despise me. It's like people act I come on here and spam the n-word and that's 100% of my posts or something. Sometimes I can make some really silly, non-sequitur threads, but does that warrant this hate?

Like what is so awful about an unpassing trans woman, who yes maybe has some substance abuse issues, posting absurdist stuff on a forum? What would you like to see out of me, while also recognizing that this is who I am? I regret the dumb edgy post from yesterday. I love myself yes, but I'm not perfect. Even I can admit that.

But no, these memes where I like groom kids, these memes where I'm dangerous, these memes where I've done ANYTHING violent, are so far-fetched and not based in anything I've actually posted. It's like a game of telephone where someone (probably Challenger or Ian) made up a rumor about me, people heard that rumor, and because I'm zany people equate that to me being unstable, and because people think I'm unstable they just instantly believe the rumors without asking for even the slightest iota of proof.

Imagine if you were treated that way. Imagine if your friend was treated that way. Don't I, as a human, deserve to have these allegations proven before they're just universally accepted? Am I in the wrong here? I am on my knees people, throw me a freaking bone here.

And yet, no one can even respond to this. That should give you an idea of what I'm up against here.

None of you want a solution - you want a pariah.

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This will get more Yes's than No's, and that's still completely meaningless and I won't be banned.

Just an FYI.

You seriously need help.

I really don't. The fact that I'm an individual who doesn't just bandwagon other people because they're "out" actually makes me one of the most well-adjusted, nice people on this site.

How does it feel being in the same boat as these abhorrent liars? Seriously, please explain why you think I need help. What have I done that's so ridiculous or insane? I've asked this question to both you and Nuka now. Nuka couldn't back it up, and neither can you.

Also I'm far from an asshole. You guys are the jerks. I'm the one who has to respond to you. When people are even SOMEWHAT cordial to me, I'm as pleasant as can be with them.

hOW DARE YOU

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Let's put it this way, if it was the corpse of a human being, would you have done the same thing and posted a thread with pictures of it?

I would've called the police, it's a dead body.

I'd probably get arrested for wasting police time if I called them about the cat, sad but true.

Pretend the police don't exist for this hypothetical, would you have done the same thing and posted a thread with pictures of the corpse?

Hate to say it, but I do value human life a bit more than animal life. So I would've actually buried the body if it was a human and I couldn't call anyone to identify the corpse / contact the family.

The cat was a stray, no one owned it. There's really nothing to be done in that situation. Honestly, in retrospect I shouldn't have taken pictures of it, should've just told the story, but I thought no one would believe me without some form of proof.

Let's put it this way, if it was the corpse of a human being, would you have done the same thing and posted a thread with pictures of it?

I would've called the police, it's a dead body.

I'd probably get arrested for wasting police time if I called them about the cat, sad but true.

Quote from: SecondClass on July 30, 2020, 04:20:44 PM

Never said that, but honestly if some other user did a morally righteous thing while high, you wouldn't have the same reaction.

It's a rotting carcass. Morally righteous?
You spelled out some shit with rocks too. The entire post was oozing of insanity, anyone else who posted it would've gotten a similar reaction.

Giving something dignity in death is indeed morally righteous. If I was hit by a train, I wouldn't want people to just walk by my carcass and leave me to rot. I should've actually buried the cat, but it was starting to rain and I didn't want to loiter around for too long. Making sure it was whole was the least I could do.

Spelling something out isn't insane you goon, I'd have written it in Sharpie if I had one. Accept the fact that some of us are unique, some of the people in this world are truly remarkable and don't follow your little social rules. Labeling them as insane because you lack the capacity to understand them is about the most childish thing imaginable.

Quote from: SecondClass on July 30, 2020, 04:15:34 PM

You're just pointing at me and being like "but you're SecondClass", as if that's a contention.

So is being high on illicit substances an intrinsic part of your personality?
You made a creepy shrine for a disembowelled cat under a bridge.

Never said that, but honestly if some other user did a morally righteous thing while high, you wouldn't have the same reaction. You're downplaying my act because of two things: A) That I was high, and B) That I'm SecondClass, a user you have qualms with.

I never made a shrine. I put her back together, took pictures, then immediately left to wash my hands.

Quote from: SecondClass on July 30, 2020, 04:11:45 PM

Well, sure I was high when I did it.

Case in point.

What is your case, exactly? That morally righteous acts stop being morally righteous if you do them while inebriated?

What if I was a bit buzzed and gave a homeless man $10? Or if I was on DXM and talked someone down from suicide on Discord? Please support your shitty arguments Nuka, like if you're trying to argue that my act wasn't a moral one, then argue that.

You're just pointing at me and being like "but you're SecondClass", as if that's a contention.

threatening to kill someone is also illegal, and pre-deadbeat cheat used to take stuff like that pretty seriously too

Okay but it wasn't a real threat, please don't act like you're not intelligent enough to recognize a bad, edgy joke when you see one. I mean I know I'm not popular, but no one here pretended to take it seriously for any reason but to get me in trouble.

If you want proof, ask yourself this: where are the people coming down on Desty for making a terroristic threat? They're nonexistent, because people don't despise him like me.