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1022
It's such a great film. I at least have plenty of DXM to enjoy it on, and idk maybe my mood will improve. We're making preparations in my discord and I'll post the rabb.it link here when it's ready! It starts in about a half hour, at midnight EST. I'm making popcorn too.


1023
Ah damn, you're smart. I never thought about that option. That would be quick, poetic, and apt. That's probably what I'll do when I do it. I would have to do something to knock me unconscious or else I know I'd pussy out though. Thanks for this; I hope you've been doing well. I know we've had our problems in the past but I sincerely hope your life has been ok.

1024
I’d shoot everybody in this thread if I knew I could get away with it.
I'd welcome that

Maybe someday we can do like an assisted suicide thing in a state where it's legal and you wouldn't even have to worry about the law.

idk, I sound dumb just something worth staying positive and hopeful about

1025
ngl I'd be weirded the fuck out if I was sol and someone offered me like, 12x the going rate of a tg hooker around here.

that just screams "you gonna end up the dead person on some Investigation Discovery program" to me
Yeah, that's why you should be careful and be on your guard. And lol, I'd relish the chance to die anyway. If it was get five grand and turn my family's life around or die trying, and I get the compliment of someone liking my body enough to even do all this, yeah I wouldn't be bitching like sol is. Whatever. I just went to sleep and woke up and I'm still more angry than ever. I'm useless, so is she, and so is this entire fucking world.

1026
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
you do have a pretty admirable mindset tho
thanks, I try to stay positive more these days and talk about how things are going to get better, but staying grounded in reality is important too
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
LOL. If you think your life is bad you are just a spoiled person lol. I'm not fucking flattering you, I'm pointing out that you have it all yet still lord over us. Like yeah, I get it. You're amazing. Great stuff buddy!
I know this is hard for you to understand, but I have REAL problems in my life other than whether or not people like me on the internet, or whether or not I'm being treated like a PURCHASABLE OBJECT often enough

I don't want to talk about everything ailing me right now, but your misplaced envy is really pissing me off
If you have the option of having someone pay for the privilege of fucking you because they find you that attractive, you don't have real problems. Hahaha what are your fucking problems? My family is getting kicked out of our house. I'd be flattered if someone wanted to have sex with my disgusting body, let alone pay me five grand for the honor of it. You're a child.
I'm a child, but you think of women as non-human objects to be bought and sold and that's a completely mature way to think, right?

No I should just take the money and when my boyfriend finds out I can just tell him, "Hey I love you and everything but neither our relationship nor the dignity of all women and especially all trans-women aren't worth $5,000 to me."
LOL NO???

If a woman was offering a guy five grand to do the same, he'd be an idiot not to as well. Gender is MEANINGLESS in this scenario, don't try to paint me as a misogynist just because you're so coddled that A) you have some man taking care of you and B) even if you didn't, you could easily fucking get five grand just for getting off with someone who likes your body. Fucking disgusting dude. You are so entitled and privileged and I'm starting to not even feel bad anymore after seeing the person all that suffering made you into. Suffering is supposed to form you into a better, more tolerant person, but it seems as soon as you got the chance at the good life you certainly hopped ship and clung to that. You're just like my sister lol. Fucking it enjoy it please, and for God's sake, stop fucking complaining.

1027
yeah shocker, people use HRT just to look more feminine and prettier, not to actually feel like a woman! Shouldn't have come as a shock to me. I was having hope but nah - society just cares about looks. That's all there is, that's just how the story goes. You need to look good or else you're trash and even HRT itself thinks thats the only reason why you want on it. Great.
maybe you can describe it to me

what do you think a girl feels like
No idea! Never been one! I'd hope not being angry all the time, not hating your own body all the time, not being so filled with hate and rage and senseless violence. But no - HRT just makes you look cute, that's all it's for.
tbh i've felt a lot less angry and frustrated since i've started, so at least give it a shot before you pass it off as doing nothing
Just taking words from the great masters of this!

1028
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
you do have a pretty admirable mindset tho
thanks, I try to stay positive more these days and talk about how things are going to get better, but staying grounded in reality is important too
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
LOL. If you think your life is bad you are just a spoiled person lol. I'm not fucking flattering you, I'm pointing out that you have it all yet still lord over us. Like yeah, I get it. You're amazing. Great stuff buddy!
I know this is hard for you to understand, but I have REAL problems in my life other than whether or not people like me on the internet, or whether or not I'm being treated like a PURCHASABLE OBJECT often enough

I don't want to talk about everything ailing me right now, but your misplaced envy is really pissing me off
If you have the option of having someone pay for the privilege of fucking you because they find you that attractive, you don't have real problems. Hahaha what are your fucking problems? My family is getting kicked out of our house. I'd be flattered if someone wanted to have sex with my disgusting body, let alone pay me five grand for the honor of it. You're a child.
Could be some gross, skeevy, or black guy offering the money tho.  It's not always worth the money
(tho I'd prolly take that offer)
Yeah I'd take the money if it was some gross person offering me $50. I'm gross, he's gross, what's the fucking difference? $50 could get me a nice couple of days. $500 is like an entire paycheck. and $5000 is more than I've ever seen in my lifetime and would change my entire family's fucking lives. But Sol can't do it because it feels so ewwy for someone to be so attracted to you they're willing to drop five grand. It's a fucking joke. I have to go to bed rn but I sincerely hope I don't wake up. I know that I will which is the saddest part about this entire thing

1029
yeah shocker, people use HRT just to look more feminine and prettier, not to actually feel like a woman! Shouldn't have come as a shock to me. I was having hope but nah - society just cares about looks. That's all there is, that's just how the story goes. You need to look good or else you're trash and even HRT itself thinks thats the only reason why you want on it. Great.
maybe you can describe it to me

what do you think a girl feels like
No idea! Never been one! I'd hope not being angry all the time, not hating your own body all the time, not being so filled with hate and rage and senseless violence. But no - HRT just makes you look cute, that's all it's for.

1030
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
you do have a pretty admirable mindset tho
thanks, I try to stay positive more these days and talk about how things are going to get better, but staying grounded in reality is important too
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
LOL. If you think your life is bad you are just a spoiled person lol. I'm not fucking flattering you, I'm pointing out that you have it all yet still lord over us. Like yeah, I get it. You're amazing. Great stuff buddy!
I know this is hard for you to understand, but I have REAL problems in my life other than whether or not people like me on the internet, or whether or not I'm being treated like a PURCHASABLE OBJECT often enough

I don't want to talk about everything ailing me right now, but your misplaced envy is really pissing me off
If you have the option of having someone pay for the privilege of fucking you because they find you that attractive, you don't have real problems. Hahaha what are your fucking problems? My family is getting kicked out of our house. I'd be flattered if someone wanted to have sex with my disgusting body, let alone pay me five grand for the honor of it. You're a child.

1031
yeah shocker, people use HRT just to look more feminine and prettier, not to actually feel like a woman! Shouldn't have come as a shock to me. I was having hope but nah - society just cares about looks. That's all there is, that's just how the story goes. You need to look good or else you're trash and even HRT itself thinks thats the only reason why you want on it. Great.

1032
also stop it, I'm not perfect and my life is almost as garbage as yours is, I don't want flattery and I won't accept it from you
LOL. If you think your life is bad you are just a spoiled person lol. I'm not fucking flattering you, I'm pointing out that you have it all yet still lord over us. Like yeah, I get it. You're amazing. Great stuff buddy!

1033
ok

make up your mind

1034
you sound jealous
Oh I'm incredibly jealous. I'm jealous and yet it's well deserved karma for what I did to her. I'm in no position to complain - yet I'm complaining. That makes me even worse. Sol has everything, and she's an amazing person. Really lost my chance there, as I do with absolutely everything.

1035
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans
I dont really know what I feel like tho.  Unable to be a girl, unfit to be a guy
pretty much this

cis girls won, we lost - end of story

cool people like sol and cheat won too I guess, and all those zoomer early transitioners

not people like us

nigga im still cute and have a chance, dont drag me down
true - my mistake and my bad

just a projection thing, you're good dw

1036
frankly i don't know why anyone cares about their gender to begin with
As someone who's already content with their gender, is a man, and has tons of hatred for others in his heart, I wouldn't know why either

1037
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans
I dont really know what I feel like tho.  Unable to be a girl, unfit to be a guy
pretty much this

cis girls won, we lost - end of story

cool people like sol and cheat won too I guess, and all those zoomer early transitioners

not people like us

1038
and when she has people offering him 5k to have sex with her

why the fuck do you still come to this hellhole, you perfect person?

1039
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans
The point of this thread was that people only take you seriously as a trans person if you're on HRT

and lol ok dude - I was still a man before HRT with a male brain, and male chemicals and male chromosomes. Gender Dysphoria isnt feeling like a girl lol, it's feeling like you don't want to be a man. It doesn't magically make you a girl because you want to not be a man. HRT is supposed to be the changer, but now according to you and cheat and your bastions of knowledge on the subject all HRT does is make you look different, which I couldn't care less about

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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

1041
Hold the fucking phone


Spoiler
Hold the fucking phone


Spoiler
funny, but not the same person
Hold the fucking phone


Spoiler
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Don't get it, at all. Please explain the joke? Am I being compared to someone bad? Like ok

1042
The Flood / Such an amazing song to end it on
« on: May 11, 2019, 12:10:32 PM »
YouTube


"How It Ends" is so fucking apt,and I just have to post the lyrics.

Hold your grandmother's bible to your breast
Gonna put it to the test
You wanted to be blessed

And in your heart you know it to be true
You know what you gotta do
They all depend on you

And you already know
Yeah, you already know how this will end

There is no escape from the slave catcher's songs
For all of the loved ones gone
Forever's not so long

And in your soul they poked a million holes
But you never let em show
Come on, it's time to go

And you already know
Yeah, you already know how this will end

Now you've seen his face
And you know that there's a place in the sun
For all that you've done
For you and your children

No longer shall you need
You always wanted to believe
Just ask and you'll receive
Beyond your wildest dreams

And you already know
Yeah, you already know how this will end.


Yeah, I love this song. It's heartbreaking and contentful at the same time. Sometimes I feel like I'm not strong enough, and I've already done so many bad things anyway

1043
The Flood / Re: nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 12:01:09 PM »
sol's server (and life) massively outclasses mine, please delete/lock that thread cheat

and yeah cheat + sol were right; hrt is doing nothing for me it's a placebo or just the dxm I was wrong

cant win them all w/e

WTF. HRT works. It’s just way more of a physical change than an emotional one. Yeah, I did feel calmer / more sane after several months, but it was minor. The bigger changes are to your skin and breasts (and fat in general). Chill the fuck out.
ah so its useless then

I dont care about appearances whatsoever

cool

did you literally think it would give you a different personality
it did make me feel calmer but that's just a lie my brain made up

not a different personality no, just calmer

you dont care about me lol, please dont pretend

1044
The Flood / Re: nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 11:47:52 AM »
sol's server (and life) massively outclasses mine, please delete/lock that thread cheat

and yeah cheat + sol were right; hrt is doing nothing for me it's a placebo or just the dxm I was wrong

cant win them all w/e

WTF. HRT works. It’s just way more of a physical change than an emotional one. Yeah, I did feel calmer / more sane after several months, but it was minor. The bigger changes are to your skin and breasts (and fat in general). Chill the fuck out.
ah so its useless then

I dont care about appearances whatsoever

cool

1045
The Flood / Re: nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 11:03:37 AM »
YouTube


love this song

1046
The Flood / nvm I'll probs just delete my server
« on: May 11, 2019, 11:01:50 AM »
sol's server (and life) massively outclasses mine, please delete/lock that thread cheat

and yeah cheat + sol were right; hrt is doing nothing for me it's a placebo or just the dxm I was wrong

cant win them all w/e

1047
The Flood / Re: No guys, join my server instead.
« on: May 11, 2019, 10:19:27 AM »
Ah damn now I have to be jealous of you hahaha

very cool move you shouldve done this sooner

1048
The Flood / Re: Join my new server! We host fun events!
« on: May 11, 2019, 10:04:51 AM »
i need to find a place where excess negativity IS welcome
lol I'm just kidding verb please join I need members you're the exception here

1049
The Flood / Join my new server! We host fun events!
« on: May 11, 2019, 09:57:13 AM »
We are the innest server out there -  we're small but who doesn't want to chat with traps, media connoisseurs, and musicians?
Excess negativity isn't welcome.




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