Just got around to the infamous kiss episode. Sure, it was awkward, forced and out of nowhere, but I'm more upset that they ruined the ending card with that shitty song.

I like the delayed explosions on Midir's Shin Godzilla laser attack.

Music is shit though.

The most FABULOUS super saiyan of them all.

Get paid for nothing.

Okay.

If a nerdy engineer can get through the Ishimura then so can Doom.

Oh. OH, shit. Fucking took me long enough. Jesus Christ I didn't miss the joke so much as I actively ducked under it.

I smell people talking about The Line.

That said, as cool and poignant as the white phosphorous segment is, I can't help but feel it was a little bit hamfistedly done. As far as I know, the game doesn't exactly give you a choice in the matter—and if I had that choice, I'd obviously try to spare the civilians. But I don't think they even let you; it's a totally scripted event. But the game still does the whole guilt-trip thing where it shames you for committing these atrocities. Which is fine—I really, really like that message—but when the game tries to guilt you over doing something that you were essentially forced into seemed just a little unfair.

Perhaps it is, but there's plenty of commentary on how forced you were. Notice the fade-to-white before the incident - Walker believed using the phosphorus was the only option. Perhaps he had other choices, but he believed he didn't or otherwise denied them, and since by that point in the game the player only knows as much as Walker does they have no reason to think he's wrong (and don't know about the significance of the fade-to-white). Acting without knowing all the facts is one of the central themes of the game.

The other central theme, I'm sure you know, is avoiding responsibility by shifting blame onto others. Adams and Lugo shift blame onto Walker; Walker shifts blame onto Konrad; Riggs shifted blame onto perceived necessity; the player shifts blame onto the game, or perhaps the developers. Everyone involved is at fault; everyone involved believes they are not. The feeling of frustration that it wasn't fair is the intended reaction.

Or is it? Maybe the point is that, if you didn't want to play a war simulation, you wouldn't have bought the game to begin with. This is what war is—don't you feel like a hero?

Exactly. The player chose to buy a game where the fun is derived from murdering people. Why did you do that? Why not play something else, that doesn't involve such a horrible premise?

Though, I think what would have added to the game immensely is the option to fulfill Walker's initial orders: find out if there are survivors (accomplished within minutes of starting the game) and then leave. There wouldn't be any ambiguity as to how complicit the player is if they had that choice, and there would be more sting to the loading screen quote asking if you remember why you came to Dubai in the first place.

I can read some of this, but it looks like you just wrote random shit into Google translate.

Quote from: SecondClass on May 07, 2017, 11:36:16 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on May 07, 2017, 07:12:57 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on May 07, 2017, 07:10:19 AM

the dude in the cowboy hat?

you see it right off the bat

why is this a thing

so that people can claim to see it right away in an attempt to seem more perceptive than other people

why did 3 people like this post and how can some people not fucking see the man in the cowboy hat

its as clear as fucking day

is this a joke

Even if it is a joke, I honestly can't see it.

It took me a moment to see anything else.

Armageddon out of this shitty thread.

Quote from: challengerX on May 03, 2017, 08:26:07 PM

You bite your entire finger or the tip?

Sides mostly, I used to bite the knuckles/joints too but that died off a while back.
Kinda like beside/below the nail is the best way to describe it.

Same here. I also bit the hairs off my fingers because they start to itch for some reason.