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931
« on: April 11, 2015, 09:09:21 PM »
Allows Anakin Skywalker to appear as he did when he was not corrupted by the darkside
Nah, he was like that when he was corrupted.
Sebastian Shaw ghost appeared as he did because he was redeemed.
Anakin looked like that for a good year before Revenge of the Sith.
932
« on: April 11, 2015, 09:08:04 PM »
Damn, I thought the droids were the best enemies. The varied character models and non-standard classes really added quality to the game.
Yeah, they did add a nice variety to the game.
933
« on: April 11, 2015, 09:07:04 PM »
pre-order cancelled.
Hopefully they prove the leaks wrong at Celebration.
934
« on: April 11, 2015, 09:04:45 PM »
providing useful commentary, lessons, and above all, laughs
Except he doesn't do any of this. If your defense of a character is, "you would like him if you were 9", you've got a shitty defense.
I'm not 9 and don't have an issue with the character, so that obviously isn't true.
935
« on: April 11, 2015, 09:01:44 PM »
Hayden Christensen Ghost: Pros:- Allows Anakin Skywalker to appear as he did when he was not corrupted by the darkside - People new to watching Star Wars (especially children) get to see their hero from the PT and The Clone Wars to return. - Allows the possibility for him the appear in later films - Audience can easily identify the character Cons: - Takes screen time from a previous filled roll - Anakin Skywalker is never seen wearing those Jedi robes in all his time in the PT - Luke would not have recognized this version of his father physically, but probably could through the force Sebastian Shaw Ghost: Pros:- Keeps the actor who played Vader when he died. - Luke would more likely be able to identify him as Anakin physically Cons:- Does not allow Anakin the potential to appear on screen in future movies - May confuse the audience to who the character is (although unlikely) - Keeps the form of who he was when he was corrupted by the darkside
If you think of more pros and cons I should add to the lists, give 'em
Share what you chose below, and state why. I like Hayden better, due to the fact that it allows Anakin to maybe show up in future projects. Plus, I know from showing my nephews that it makes the kids happy to see young Anakin again.
936
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:36:31 PM »
I started off with the prequels and I was around 6 when I saw it, so I loved Jar Jar.
My family didn't have access to the movies, so I saw them all in a strange order when I could. It was III, VI, V, II, IV, I for me. I was older when I saw TPM, but I still enjoyed Jar Jar for the reasons stated in the OP. Never came across as annoying to me.
937
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:30:00 PM »
 So, we probably won't see much of, if any, prequel content in Star Wars Battlefront. Kinda sucks, especially since Republic vs CIS space battles would be lovely to see on new tech. Here's to hoping we get some PT content at launch or DLC down the road.
938
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:23:33 PM »
Anyway, back on topic about Jar Jar. And post something constructive instead of just an image, if you would.
*stares heavily at Deci*
939
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:21:05 PM »
Literally kill yourself.
I was going to say that first, but then I found the image of Jar Jar getting punched to be amusing. XD
But yeah... What Noelle said. Kill youself Tackelberry.
The Empire Strikes back is objectively the worst of the main six Star Wars movied in the saga at this time.
If watching in the correct chronological order, TESB is the weakest of the films.
> Literally nothing happens to the Rebels that devastates them. The Battle of Hoth has no impact on ROTJ
> Vader reveals he is Luke's father, which you find out in Ep. III and Luke doesn't believe it until Ep. VI
> Reveals Yoda, who you met 5 movies ago, and was a persistant character in the first 3
> Reveals the Force, which is learned about over the first 4 movies already
Really, the only high points in that film that aren't repeated in other movies are Han Solo being frozen and meeting Lando.
Spoiler Jimmies have been rustled.
*flips the bird*
You're acting as if I'm saying the movie is bad. It's just the weakest one if viewed in chronological order. It's still a great film.
940
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:15:15 PM »
Literally kill yourself.
I was going to say that first, but then I found the image of Jar Jar getting punched to be amusing. XD
But yeah... What Noelle said. Kill youself Tackelberry.
The Empire Strikes back is objectively the worst of the main six Star Wars movied in the saga at this time.
If watching in the correct chronological order, TESB is the weakest of the films. > Literally nothing happens to the Rebels that devastates them. The Battle of Hoth has no impact on ROTJ > Vader reveals he is Luke's father, which you find out in Ep. III and Luke doesn't believe it until Ep. VI > Reveals Yoda, who you met 5 movies ago, and was a persistant character in the first 3 > Reveals the Force, which is learned about over the first 4 movies already Really, the only high points in that film that aren't repeated in other movies are Han Solo being frozen and meeting Lando. Spoiler Jimmies have been rustled.
941
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:07:10 PM »
Star Wars is this site's #trigger.
Apparently.
942
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:06:42 PM »
Literally kill yourself.
I was going to say that first, but then I found the image of Jar Jar getting punched to be amusing. XD
But yeah... What Noelle said. Kill youself Tackelberry.
The Empire Strikes back is objectively the worst of the main six Star Wars movied in the saga at this time.
943
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:04:37 PM »
Well duh.
If you saw Phantom Menace in theaters as a kid and didn't love Jar Jar then you're a goddamn liar. If you hate him now because you "grew up" you missed the archetypical role of the character. If you're younger than me and saw the prequels after the OT then you're just parroting your middle-aged father who also thinks that 1983 was the single best year in music.
Kek
944
« on: April 11, 2015, 08:03:42 PM »
No one read the OP, I take it then?
945
« on: April 11, 2015, 07:56:22 PM »
Jar Jar is a vital part of the story and fit in with the archetypes of story and myth that Lucas based ALL of the Star Wars movies on, and a character in which the viewers can learn important morals from. Jar Jar Binks is the clown of the Star Wars films. And it makes sense to have him feature prominently in the first act. Looking to Shakespeare’s The Merchant Of Venice, we see Lancelot the Clown featuring prominently in the early act of the play, providing useful commentary, lessons, and above all, laughs and largely disappearing later in the body of the work. Jar Jar works the same way, providing those laughs in the first movie, moving on to another purpose until disappearing completely by the middle of the saga. Clowns aren’t anything new to drama. They’ve appeared back as far as our history of theatre goes. Why should George Lucas be demonized for remaining consistent with his use of classic myth, drama, and archetype? Jar Jar is the sad bunny you help on the side of the road who gives you the magic beans to slay the dragon at the end of the journey. As far as in The Phantom Menace, Jar Jar is supposed to be annoying, and funny to the kids. That's the point. We need to see past people for their annoyance and look at their inherent worth. Jar Jar saved the day and brought two nations of people together because just one person saw through the fog of annoyance. It’s a valuable lesson that would be well learned by those who seem to have the most hatred for Jar Jar. That's one of the strongest morals to be learned in The Phantom Menace, and that's a reason to stand up for Jar Jar.  Because of his unifying nature in The Phantom Menace, he was promoted from clumsy annoyance to Senate representative in Attack Of The Clones. His role in the second episode of the Star Wars saga was particularly poignant for a number of reasons and explored how even the most well-meaning person can, by no fault of anything but his intention to do the right thing, be manipulated into perpetrating a great evil. In being made to feel that authorizing an army for the Chancellor was the right thing to do, he was complicit in the eventual destruction of the Republic. This is an excellent lesson to be learned from Jar Jar in the Star Wars films, and it turned out to be disturbingly prescient. Six months after the release of Attack Of The Clones, the United States Congress unwittingly pulled a Jar Jar and gave George W. Bush the same war authority powers Palpatine was given and in another six months the United States would be embroiled in its longest, most senseless war to date.  As a final point, is this: You’ll always hear people say, “I hate Jar Jar,” and “Jar Jar annoyed me,” and, “Could someone please kill that obnoxious Gungan?” But think of this: how often do you hear people say, “I hated Jar Jar because he looked fake,” or, “I disliked Jar Jar because he didn’t interact with his environment well?” Not very often. The team at Industrial Light and Magic created the first all-CG character so convincingly that his physical presence was never the issue with fans, merely those choking on their own hubris. Now, you can still hate Jar Jar if you want to, but it’s pretty clear that he worked for specific purposes in the films, whether you liked it or not. And if you can’t at least admit to this stuff, your inability to like the prequels has far more to do with a personal problem than with the actual films themselves.
946
« on: April 11, 2015, 07:29:19 PM »
Whatever. The prequels don't feel like Star Wars. I'm done.
I suggest you read through that thread when you get the time.
I did. They seemed to be getting angry at the fact that he was stating his opinion, to the point that they ignored valid criticisms. Half of them sounded ready to perform fellatio on Lucas. Having had previous knowledge of how much TheForce.net can be a bunch of sensitive babies it doesn't surprise me. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the guy is awesome or flawless, or that his reviews are either, but they seemed to be ignoring some of his valid criticisms out of outrage.
947
« on: April 11, 2015, 07:27:34 PM »
m8
you just got off a ban
Behave or I'll have to whack ya in the giblets.
948
« on: April 11, 2015, 07:25:59 PM »
I'll be getting it even if it's not 32 players, because I don't buy Halo for that. There's other games for that, like SWBF.
If people are in the mood for playing an arena shooter, they'll play Halo. If they're in the mood for big team MP, they'll play SWBF/Battlefield. If they're in the mood for a fast paced twitch shooter, they'll play CoD.
Different games for different experiences.
Plus I mainly buy Halo for the campaign. MP is an afterthought for me.
This, plus the maps we've seen so far are meant for 4v4 games. Would be kinda stupid to have a 16 vs 16 battle on those. And even if they had a map big enough, it would need to be Battlefield size, with lots of weapons and vehicles. Too chaotic for Halo IMO. Big Team Battle is the limit Halo goes to.
949
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:45:37 AM »
Whatever. The prequels don't feel like Star Wars. I'm done.
I suggest you read through that thread when you get the time.
950
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:39:36 AM »
he views it from a film and isolated perspective, instead of as a whole story.
... That's the point. They shouldn't have to rely on other works for them to work! EACH MOVIE, EACH TRILOGY, SHOULD WORK ON IT'S OWN.
The original trilogy does! So why can't the prequel trilogy? Because it's BAD.
It's All Star Wars. And the movies seem to stand on their own to me, without the help of The Clone Wars show. But to you it doesn't, in which case I have to say: It's called the Star Wars Saga for a reason. It's meant to be watched all together.
That doesn't excuse the bad writing, or the plot holes, etc. I know what you're trying to say, but there's a difference between working better connected with the overall story, and being a flat-out nonsensical and stupid story. I feel like you should really watch the Plinkett reviews again, because he points out multiple flaws in basic plot of the film.
I've watched those reviews quite enough, thank you. As I've said, I disagree with most of what he says.
This thread basically summarizes my opinions on those: http://boards.theforce.net/threads/red-letter-media-and-other-prequel-reviews.32077440/
And plot holes? Like what?
I like how the they claim "fallacious" arguments but never say exactly what they are.
There's multiple pages for a reason.
951
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:38:22 AM »
You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged.
Or because fans wanted to see him during that time period? You forget, at the time season 2 came out, the comics were still canon. Boba had tons a backstory to his character already, with or without him being a clone. I don't see the issue here. The only difference now is, TCW is the only source of canon for his character outside the movies, which of course will change as time goes on.
Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars.
Then entirety of "Guardians of the Galaxy" comes to mind.
Spoiler I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason.
I like the PT as much as the OT. To me it's all Star Wars, and Star Wars is awesome. The PT era has had a lot of good content come out of it, and the OT and ST are starting to get some again with Rebels, Marvel's Star Wars, and most the new books. All of which I'm loving, since the story team is doing such a good job at keeping it all tied together so far.
But Boba Fett's "mystery" just seemed to die when he got all that attention in the EU between TESB and AOTC. I see where your coming from, but as an avid reader of the old EU and such, his character just never even seemed much of a mystery outside the first two films he appeared in. So his character change and them wanting to give him a PT backstory never bothered me.
Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart.
I actually like TCW, it makes the prequel era slightly tolerable and somewhat like Star Wars. A lot of it is just trying to clean up the mess of the prequels, and helps somewhat clear things up. The fact that it had to do so, however, is a clear indication of the poor quality of the prequel trilogy.
I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?
Guardians of The Galaxy? I'll have to disagree. The prequels had stupid coincidences, like the Boba Fett thing I mentioned, as in every single character ends up having a direct connection to the OT. GoTG didn't have anything that far fetched.
I fixed the formatting of that post BTW. Meh, again, it's Star Wars.
No worse than this:
or this:
or this:
or this:
or Anakin building C-3P0
My point being, it's just what Star Wars does. I bet you if the PT came out first, the characters in the OT would have similar convenient connections to characters.
The point I was trying to make was that there are a bunch of stupid coincidences, like Anakin building C-3P0. Boba Fett's origin is but one of those many silly coincidences. They're all bad.
If the PT came out first... yes... because it would be the same and only change in release order. I do not see what point you're trying to make.
Fine. Instead of me trying to explain how it's no big deal, tell me why it is. Why is it so terrible that 3P0 is built buy a main character of the series? Why is it so terrible that Boba interacts with characters of the PT? It doesn't hurt anything to the story. It gives a back story to those who watch the movies and want a backstory on some characters. Especially when certain characters like Boba Fett, that fans have been craving for a back story on. And then when the creator writes avery Sci-Fi way in a Space Opera? Why is that such a bad thing? Especially for a prequel to a trilogy that was famous for following a close nit group of characters, both good and bad?
It's not bad writing, as people that I've shown the Saga to that have never seen it don't have any issue with it, and even found it interesting. So, is it because it didn't meet your standards after 20+ years since the movie came out? Or because it didn't exactly match what you thought it would be based off some comic book? If so, you're holding someone to some ridiculously high standards. It just sounds like you're someone who still hasn't gotten over the fact that a new Star Wars movie came out 16 years ago.
All I can say is, watch the Plinkett reviews again, and actually pay attention to the points he's making. I don't like the Plinkett persona either but he makes excellent points. Honestly his actual commentary is pretty funny. Just watch them with an open mind, don't go into it with a defensive attitude.
You could watch all three reviews before I could list everything out in text.
I've watched them with an open mind the first 10 or so times I saw them. I disagree. Again, so this argument doesn't drag o too much, this thread can summarize a lot of my views on what he is saying in them. You can read through it before I finish even 1 review. http://boards.theforce.net/threads/red-letter-media-and-other-prequel-reviews.32077440/
952
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:33:10 AM »
he views it from a film and isolated perspective, instead of as a whole story.
... That's the point. They shouldn't have to rely on other works for them to work! EACH MOVIE, EACH TRILOGY, SHOULD WORK ON IT'S OWN.
The original trilogy does! So why can't the prequel trilogy? Because it's BAD.
It's All Star Wars. And the movies seem to stand on their own to me, without the help of The Clone Wars show. But to you it doesn't, in which case I have to say: It's called the Star Wars Saga for a reason. It's meant to be watched all together.
That doesn't excuse the bad writing, or the plot holes, etc. I know what you're trying to say, but there's a difference between working better connected with the overall story, and being a flat-out nonsensical and stupid story. I feel like you should really watch the Plinkett reviews again, because he points out multiple flaws in basic plot of the film.
I've watched those reviews quite enough, thank you. As I've said, I disagree with most of what he says. This thread basically summarizes my opinions on those: http://boards.theforce.net/threads/red-letter-media-and-other-prequel-reviews.32077440/And plot holes? Like what?
953
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:27:57 AM »
You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged.
Or because fans wanted to see him during that time period? You forget, at the time season 2 came out, the comics were still canon. Boba had tons a backstory to his character already, with or without him being a clone. I don't see the issue here. The only difference now is, TCW is the only source of canon for his character outside the movies, which of course will change as time goes on.
Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars.
Then entirety of "Guardians of the Galaxy" comes to mind.
Spoiler I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason.
I like the PT as much as the OT. To me it's all Star Wars, and Star Wars is awesome. The PT era has had a lot of good content come out of it, and the OT and ST are starting to get some again with Rebels, Marvel's Star Wars, and most the new books. All of which I'm loving, since the story team is doing such a good job at keeping it all tied together so far.
But Boba Fett's "mystery" just seemed to die when he got all that attention in the EU between TESB and AOTC. I see where your coming from, but as an avid reader of the old EU and such, his character just never even seemed much of a mystery outside the first two films he appeared in. So his character change and them wanting to give him a PT backstory never bothered me.
Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart.
I actually like TCW, it makes the prequel era slightly tolerable and somewhat like Star Wars. A lot of it is just trying to clean up the mess of the prequels, and helps somewhat clear things up. The fact that it had to do so, however, is a clear indication of the poor quality of the prequel trilogy.
I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?
Guardians of The Galaxy? I'll have to disagree. The prequels had stupid coincidences, like the Boba Fett thing I mentioned, as in every single character ends up having a direct connection to the OT. GoTG didn't have anything that far fetched.
I fixed the formatting of that post BTW. Meh, again, it's Star Wars.
No worse than this:
or this:
or this:
or this:
or Anakin building C-3P0
My point being, it's just what Star Wars does. I bet you if the PT came out first, the characters in the OT would have similar convenient connections to characters.
The point I was trying to make was that there are a bunch of stupid coincidences, like Anakin building C-3P0. Boba Fett's origin is but one of those many silly coincidences. They're all bad.
If the PT came out first... yes... because it would be the same and only change in release order. I do not see what point you're trying to make.
Fine. Instead of me trying to explain how it's no big deal, tell me why it is. Why is it so terrible that 3P0 is built buy a main character of the series? Why is it so terrible that Boba interacts with characters of the PT? It doesn't hurt anything to the story. It gives a back story to those who watch the movies and want a backstory on some characters. Especially when certain characters like Boba Fett, that fans have been craving for a back story on. And then when the creator writes avery Sci-Fi way in a Space Opera? Why is that such a bad thing? Especially for a prequel to a trilogy that was famous for following a close nit group of characters, both good and bad? It's not bad writing, as people that I've shown the Saga to that have never seen it don't have any issue with it, and even found it interesting. So, is it because it didn't meet your standards after 20+ years since the movie came out? Or because it didn't exactly match what you thought it would be based off some comic book? If so, you're holding someone to some ridiculously high standards. It just sounds like you're someone who still hasn't gotten over the fact that a new Star Wars movie came out 16 years ago.
954
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:08:51 AM »
he views it from a film and isolated perspective, instead of as a whole story.
... That's the point. They shouldn't have to rely on other works for them to work! EACH MOVIE, EACH TRILOGY, SHOULD WORK ON IT'S OWN.
The original trilogy does! So why can't the prequel trilogy? Because it's BAD.
It's All Star Wars. And the movies seem to stand on their own to me, without the help of The Clone Wars show. But to you it doesn't, in which case I have to say: It's called the Star Wars Saga for a reason. It's meant to be watched all together.
955
« on: April 11, 2015, 01:03:49 AM »
You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged.
Or because fans wanted to see him during that time period? You forget, at the time season 2 came out, the comics were still canon. Boba had tons a backstory to his character already, with or without him being a clone. I don't see the issue here. The only difference now is, TCW is the only source of canon for his character outside the movies, which of course will change as time goes on.
Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars.
Then entirety of "Guardians of the Galaxy" comes to mind.
Spoiler I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason.
I like the PT as much as the OT. To me it's all Star Wars, and Star Wars is awesome. The PT era has had a lot of good content come out of it, and the OT and ST are starting to get some again with Rebels, Marvel's Star Wars, and most the new books. All of which I'm loving, since the story team is doing such a good job at keeping it all tied together so far.
But Boba Fett's "mystery" just seemed to die when he got all that attention in the EU between TESB and AOTC. I see where your coming from, but as an avid reader of the old EU and such, his character just never even seemed much of a mystery outside the first two films he appeared in. So his character change and them wanting to give him a PT backstory never bothered me.
Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart.
I actually like TCW, it makes the prequel era slightly tolerable and somewhat like Star Wars. A lot of it is just trying to clean up the mess of the prequels, and helps somewhat clear things up. The fact that it had to do so, however, is a clear indication of the poor quality of the prequel trilogy.
I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?
Guardians of The Galaxy? I'll have to disagree. The prequels had stupid coincidences, like the Boba Fett thing I mentioned, as in every single character ends up having a direct connection to the OT. GoTG didn't have anything that far fetched.
I fixed the formatting of that post BTW. Meh, again, it's Star Wars. No worse than this: or this: or this: or this: or Anakin building C-3P0 My point being, it's just what Star Wars does. I bet you if the PT came out first, the characters in the OT would have similar convenient connections to characters.
956
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:44:03 AM »
You know why we're seeing more of kid Fett? Why we had the arc in TCW? Because they're trying to build up an entirely different character, as the old version can't be salvaged. Or because fans wanted to see him during that time period? You forget, at the time season 2 came out, the comics were still canon. Boba had tons a backstory to his character already, with or without him being a clone. I don't see the issue here. The only difference now is, TCW is the only source of canon for his character outside the movies, which of course will change as time goes on. Give me other examples of such coincidences for your space opera statement. Outside of Star Wars. Then entirety of "Guardians of the Galaxy" comes to mind. I know I'm being abrasive, rude. And I apologize, for acting in such a way. But the prequels make me angry. Because they're bad. Bland, and outright bad, writing, poor acting (because of terrible direction, the actors wouldn't have been too bad if they had been given something other than utter shit), etc. It doesn't even feel like Star Wars, not the aesthetic, nothing. The Original Trilogy is supreme, and for a good reason. I like the PT as much as the OT. To me it's all Star Wars, and Star Wars is awesome. The PT era has had a lot of good content come out of it, and the OT and ST are starting to get some again with Rebels, Marvel's Star Wars, and most the new books. All of which I'm loving, since the story team is doing such a good job at keeping it all tied together so far. But Boba Fett's "mystery" just seemed to die when he got all that attention in the EU between TESB and AOTC. I see where your coming from, but as an avid reader of the old EU and such, his character just never even seemed much of a mystery outside the first two films he appeared in. So his character change and them wanting to give him a PT backstory never bothered me. Something else I've noticed: You're somewhat of a prequel apologist. "Oh, but TCW states that X, so that's been explained". The thing is, the prequels should be able to stand on their own two feet, we shouldn't need clarification provided by TCW. You're not taking into account the fact that TCW came after the fact. The prequels, when looked upon apart from TCW or other works, fall apart. No, I'm just someone who loves Star Wars. To me, it's not divided up into "PT, Clone Wars, OT". It's all one story to me. Again, a reason why I'm loving this new EU. I take it you've never watched the Plinkett reviews?
I did. I disagree with most of his points, as he views it from a film and isolated perspective, instead of as a whole story. Also his Plinkett persona doesn't really make the review enjoyable to watch.
957
« on: April 11, 2015, 12:03:11 AM »
torrented digital versions a while ago.
Hypocrite.
>Implying I was being serious about any of that
I just did it to rustle your jimmies dude.
I'm just going to say what Verbatim said to me awhile back. I hope your computer explodes.
No. There is every need to be upset. You are the bane of Sep7agon's existence.
958
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:59:54 PM »
>temeura morrison boba fett
>darth vader screaming no in rotj
I'll pass.
I can understand the "no" thing, but it's grown on me. Why dislike Temeura Morrison though? Makes sense, canonically speaking. Boba Fett is a clone.
Original voice actor was better. More menacing, gravelly. Sort of fit the Man With No Name vibe Boba Fett sort of had going on.
They didn't even have to change the voice. Accents aren't hereditary, contrary to what Lucas seems to think. All in all I just hate Boba Fett being a clone, there's more than one Mandalorian, I don't understand why they had to be so unoriginal.
Meh, I like Morrison's voice better. Besides, the clones in Episode II, III had the accents. Plus, Boba spent 10 years of his life with his father. He already picked up the accent.
Anyway, Jango Fett and Boba Fett aren't Mandalorians in new canon. Jango was a rouge guy who adopted it's culture and wore the stolen armor, and Boba being a clone doesn't make him a Mandolorian either. As Lucas and Dave Filoni put it, he thinks it make him more badass to have killed Mandalorians and taken their armor to remind him of his father. Right now the only "true" Mandalorians in canon ( true as in warmongering, other words the pacifists would count) are the Deathwatch
and Sabine Wren.
We're not talking about the new canon. Go back in time, to before episode II was released. The idea of the Mandalorians as a group of warriors with armor, Boba Fett being one of the last, existed in the canon at the time. I get Lucas was trying to cash in on OT nostalgia and toy sales with Jango, but did he have to be basically the same person? Couldn't he have been someone different with mando armor, but have made a passing reference to "some guy, Fett, I used to know. No idea what happened to him".
But no. That's a level of subtlety unknown to Lucas. What, there's more than just Boba Fett that had that armor? Naaaaah if anyone else had it they'd definitely be Boba Fett, or his genetic father. Honestly, I get they were trying to connect the PT and OT but the prequels have so many coincidences in them it's hard to take them seriously.
"Oh you know the bounty hunter who tracked Solo? Yeah he's a clone and the guy he was cloned from was also a renowned bounty hunter who was also cloned to make an entire army."
You see why I hate Boba Fett being a clone? Because it's such a stupid coincidence that it sounds like an eight year old came up with it?
I was just mentioning the Mando thing to inform.
And, Star Wars is a Sci-Fi Space Opera. Of course there's a bunch of stupid coincidences. Like Luke keeping his last name to hide from the Empire, with his family. Or Leia turning out to be Luke's sister.
And it's not like Boba Fett being a clone detracts from his character. What if Boba went through all the same stuff, but he was his son instead of his clone? Does it matter? No, not really. Plus, it made for some nice interactions with the clone soldiers who looked just like his dead father.
@ 13:19 and such throughout the episode
You don't need to inform me, I've seen every TCW episode and spent a majority of my adolescent life looking on Wookieepedia. I'm well informed in regards to Star Wars.
How does it being a space opera justify bad writing?
There's always conveniences in Space Operas that wouldn't make sense in the real world. And it's your opinion that it's bad writing. Just as many people enjoy the clone change as there are who dislike it.
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« on: April 10, 2015, 11:44:18 PM »
>temeura morrison boba fett
>darth vader screaming no in rotj
I'll pass.
I can understand the "no" thing, but it's grown on me. Why dislike Temeura Morrison though? Makes sense, canonically speaking. Boba Fett is a clone.
Original voice actor was better. More menacing, gravelly. Sort of fit the Man With No Name vibe Boba Fett sort of had going on.
They didn't even have to change the voice. Accents aren't hereditary, contrary to what Lucas seems to think. All in all I just hate Boba Fett being a clone, there's more than one Mandalorian, I don't understand why they had to be so unoriginal.
Meh, I like Morrison's voice better. Besides, the clones in Episode II, III had the accents. Plus, Boba spent 10 years of his life with his father. He already picked up the accent.
Anyway, Jango Fett and Boba Fett aren't Mandalorians in new canon. Jango was a rouge guy who adopted it's culture and wore the stolen armor, and Boba being a clone doesn't make him a Mandolorian either. As Lucas and Dave Filoni put it, he thinks it make him more badass to have killed Mandalorians and taken their armor to remind him of his father. Right now the only "true" Mandalorians in canon ( true as in warmongering, other words the pacifists would count) are the Deathwatch
and Sabine Wren.
We're not talking about the new canon. Go back in time, to before episode II was released. The idea of the Mandalorians as a group of warriors with armor, Boba Fett being one of the last, existed in the canon at the time. I get Lucas was trying to cash in on OT nostalgia and toy sales with Jango, but did he have to be basically the same person? Couldn't he have been someone different with mando armor, but have made a passing reference to "some guy, Fett, I used to know. No idea what happened to him".
But no. That's a level of subtlety unknown to Lucas. What, there's more than just Boba Fett that had that armor? Naaaaah if anyone else had it they'd definitely be Boba Fett, or his genetic father. Honestly, I get they were trying to connect the PT and OT but the prequels have so many coincidences in them it's hard to take them seriously.
"Oh you know the bounty hunter who tracked Solo? Yeah he's a clone and the guy he was cloned from was also a renowned bounty hunter who was also cloned to make an entire army."
You see why I hate Boba Fett being a clone? Because it's such a stupid coincidence that it sounds like an eight year old came up with it?
I was just mentioning the Mando thing to inform. And, Star Wars is a Sci-Fi Space Opera. Of course there's a bunch of stupid coincidences. Like Luke keeping his last name to hide from the Empire, with his family. Or Leia turning out to be Luke's sister. And it's not like Boba Fett being a clone detracts from his character. What if Boba went through all the same stuff, but he was his son instead of his clone? Does it matter? No, not really. Plus, it made for some nice interactions with the clone soldiers who looked just like his dead father. @ 13:19 and such throughout the episode
960
« on: April 10, 2015, 11:34:34 PM »
torrented digital versions a while ago.
Hypocrite.
>Implying I was being serious about any of that
I just did it to rustle your jimmies dude.
I'm just going to say what Verbatim said to me awhile back. I hope your computer explodes.
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