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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 07, 2020, 02:07:20 PM »
It's right before the code breaker picks them up with a ship, Rose releases one of the animals:

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ROSE: No. Now, it's worth it.

Your second link has her say "Go. Now it's worth it." but that doesn't really make sense since she was talking to Finn about how he said beating up the bad guys was worth it.

EDIT: Both links have her say "Go". I'm going to have to rewatch that scene to see who's she referring to.

i feel like you just made that up, or whatever the real quote is, it doesn't sound as bad as you're making it
regardless, that is SOOOOOOO much different than what napalm said

fedorekd went over it already, so better find something else to mock

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Verb, there's a significant difference between saying Nigger and punching somebody in the face.
yet there is no difference in the way we react to things that we perceive as slights against us, physical or verbal

it's all the same cortisol, and you can't really "choose" that

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 07, 2020, 01:42:06 PM »
My favorite part about the save da animals scene is rose saying "this was the real victory" but they left all the little slave children behind
https://subslikescript.com/movie/Star_Wars_The_Last_Jedi-2527336

gonna need you to help find that exact quote for me, because i can't

https://transcripts.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_VIII:_The_Last_Jedi

here's a second one

i feel like you just made that up, or whatever the real quote is, it doesn't sound as bad as you're making it

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chronic is right about one thing—the question isn't whether white people are "allowed," because at least in america, you're allowed to say pretty much whatever you want, racial slurs included, and nobody can stop you

but in turn, because free speech isn't a one-way street, people are allowed to censure you for it

and they should, because nobody (of any race) should use those words in non-clinical or personal contexts—even black people, in my worthless opinion, because i've always thought that the concept of "reclaiming" words was a little silly, because it leads to stupid and tedious debates like this

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There's nothing preventing any white person from saying it. The freedom to speak is an inalienable right. A lot of people still choose to be offended by it, so you'll still have to face possible negative consequences, but I imagine that eventually "nigga" will make its way off the list of taboo words over time just like the countless other words that have. How long that will take, I have no idea.
it won't

and you can't "choose" to be offended by something any more than you can choose not to be upset if i punch you in the face

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 07, 2020, 12:50:58 PM »
Esoteric 4chan memes huh
if that's all you're going to give me, i can't be expected to give much back

and i'm much better at it, so why not
If you're gonna meme your way out of defending a milquetoast, haphazardly constructed film then might as well as respond accordingly, no?
do you know what milquetoast means, or is it just a word that you like to use? because you could justifiably use that word to describe TFA if you wanted—i would still disagree, but i'd be able to see where you're coming from, at least

what exactly did you find "milquetoast" about Star Wars: Episode VIII – The Last Jedi (2017)

it couldn't have been the film's uniquely aggressive and unwelcoming tone, or the relatively cutthroat script, because those traits would tend towards the opposite of that term you used
It's milquetoast for the wrong reasons whilst simultaneously being incredibly contrarian for also the wrong reasons.

Are you really trying to argue that the self serving, masturbatory "we just gots to save the abwused animals uWu" segment (which we've been subjected to in literally every garden variety disney film before) was narratively poignant in any way shape or form.

Then again, you just opined that TLJ is the best in the franchise, so it wouldn't surprise me if you did.
no, but you see, in a kid's movie about good vs. evil, it's generally a good idea to have your main characters do heroic things, especially if it gives them an excuse to have some high-octane chase scene or whatever

what exactly did you want? every star wars movie has about 12 of these, so i'm not sure what you were expecting

that said, sure, it was probably the lamest part of the movie, okay? now pick something else to harp on

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Gaming / Re: Playing through Dark Souls
« on: May 06, 2020, 10:31:53 PM »
update: rang both the bells of awakening and now am trying to get thru sen’s fortress

i vaguely remember going thru the demon ruins last play through but i’m not sure if i ever made it to anor londo

still doing sl1
don't give up skeleton

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 10:30:52 PM »
And note, I do agree with you on many points regrading the Sequel Trilogy, even though I wish it had never happened.
Spoiler
Aside from what they did to my boy Luke. My love for the character blinds me too much from what they did to him, as a fan of the EU/Legends stuff that didn't suck hot garbage.
that's where a lot of the hatred of these new films comes from too, i think

given the decades upon decades of extra material published and subsequently de-canonized by the mouse, i can understand if you grew attached to those stories (that didn't suck hot garbage) and wanted to see elements of them reincorporated, rather than completely put aside for this new, scary, unfamiliar story

i never cared to consume any of that auxiliary shit, so my perception of the characters has remained untainted by them

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 10:26:45 PM »
Verb, why do you ALWAYS have the contrarian viewpoints? This thread devolved so fast.
(read: the fans)
So, the entire audience this series is directed towards is wrong for having any kind of criticism that detracts from your point of view?
that's the thing

i'm not so sure that the audience star wars has right now was EVER the audience it was directed towards

there's plenty of interviews from the '80s where the cast members all seem genuinely baffled at the films' reception, and even alec guinness openly expressed his disdain for the childishness of ANH's script in his journal

one of the stories mark hamill likes to tell is about how he used to get hung up over very small details during shoots, such as worrying about whether his hair looks too clean after escaping the trash compactor—but then harrison ford would just pull him over and say, "hey, kid. it's not that kind of movie."

star wars was never meant to be this great tour de force that it wound up being for so many people—they are popcorn entertainment movies and NOTHING more, because those were the kind of movies george lucas loved the most

everybody on set understood this, but the fans didn't, and here we are

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 10:00:04 PM »
Esoteric 4chan memes huh
if that's all you're going to give me, i can't be expected to give much back

and i'm much better at it, so why not
If you're gonna meme your way out of defending a milquetoast, haphazardly constructed film then might as well as respond accordingly, no?
do you know what milquetoast means, or is it just a word that you like to use? because you could justifiably use that word to describe TFA if you wanted—i would still disagree, but i'd be able to see where you're coming from, at least

what exactly did you find "milquetoast" about Star Wars: Episode VIII – The Last Jedi (2017)

it couldn't have been the film's uniquely aggressive and unwelcoming tone, or the relatively cutthroat script, because those traits would tend towards the opposite of that term you used

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:43:16 PM »
Esoteric 4chan memes huh
if that's all you're going to give me, i can't be expected to give much back

and i'm much better at it, so why not

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:25:10 PM »
>mfw these fucking disney cunts keep putting child-friendly themes in my fantasy space adventure fairytale family nursery rhyme movies


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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:14:40 PM »

except the type of person that this image was designed to mock is the type of person who hates TLJ

hate the movie all you want, but it's kind of sad that you can't even come up with a single coherent reason to do so besides "things didn't turn out the way i expected or wanted"
Seething.
damn i'm just getting epically ass-raped by your esoteric 4chan memes right now

how hard did you cry when they edited hayden christensen into rotj
You're defending a film that has literal Disney channel tier themes.

Wait don't tell me, Canto Blight was the epitome of artistic vision and broke film making barriers. Embarrass yourself more.


Art

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:03:28 PM »

except the type of person that this image was designed to mock is the type of person who hates TLJ

hate the movie all you want, but it's kind of sad that you can't even come up with a single coherent reason to do so besides "things didn't turn out the way i expected or wanted"
Seething.
damn i'm just getting epically ass-raped by your esoteric 4chan memes right now

how hard did you cry when they edited hayden christensen into rotj

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 08:57:36 PM »
Verb, why do you ALWAYS have the contrarian viewpoints? This thread devolved so fast.
is it really contrarian to oppose reddit-tier opinions on movies

in any case, it's because people (read: the fans) are wrong, and have always been wrong, simple as that

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 08:50:15 PM »

except the type of person that this image was designed to mock is the type of person who hates TLJ

hate the movie all you want, but it's kind of sad that you can't even come up with a single coherent reason to do so besides "things didn't turn out the way i expected or wanted"

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 07:42:23 PM »
Okay, but I'm sure that you'd admit that your sentiments are the result of spite on your part?

I liked tlj on release, but in hindsight I don't find it to be a narratively satisfying film.
not entirely, because i did thoroughly enjoy the film, and thought several of the more "controversial" writing decisions were genuinely brilliant, relative to what we've come to expect from star wars—the fact that fanboys were blown the fuck out is just icing on the cake

adam driver and mark hamill, no matter what you think of their characters, gave genuinely amazing performances and are a delight to watch in every scene that they're in

snoke's death (and the whole build-up to it) was fucking awesome, and the single best climax in the series

i also enjoyed how the whole ben solo incident was told, with the three flashbacks from differing perspectives that only give bits and pieces of the full story before the whole truth is revealed—each version of the story adds context, but doesn't invalidate the previous one, because you can see where the misunderstanding happened

it's like the people who thought luke's character was butchered only took ben's side of the story to heart, when it's obvious that by the time the full story is told, luke only momentarily thought to kill ben because of his PTSD, which should be perfectly understandable even if you think a younger luke wouldn't have done that (despite RotJ painting some obvious shades of grey into his moral compass anyway, so you can't even argue that it's un-luke)

i find that star wars fans literally only care about story when there's so much more about to appreciate about movies—TLJ in particular treats us to some of the most visually interesting scenes in the whole series, and i'm not just talking about lightsaber battles; what about the mirror cave sequence? find me a scene in the original trilogy that dared to go in a weird artsy direction like that (you can't because the original star wars movie was a hackjob that was saved in editing)

TLJ was also very funny, which is refreshing because star wars has always been incredibly sterile when it comes to humor

there's more to appreciate but that's just off the top of my head

i don't know what "narratively satisfying" means if you weren't satisfied by TLJ honestly

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 06, 2020, 02:02:17 PM »
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I'm not implying anything. I'm saying the groundwork that was established in FA was completely 180'd in TLJ, making the movie and the trilogy as a whole one big incoherent disconnect.
the most i can agree with this statement is that rian johnson's desire to stick it to the fanboys was markedly transparent over the course of the movie, but that's ultimately the main reason why i like it in the first place

beyond that, i'm not terribly interested in how the films cohere—i'm just glad that johnson did what he did, even if TRoS suffered for it, because star wars fans are so insufferable that they had this middle finger coming for decades (besides, i think tragic stuff like the unfortunate passing of carrie fisher ultimately did more damage to the film than johnson's writing ever could)

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The Flood / Re: Today is Karl Marx's birthday
« on: May 05, 2020, 09:33:54 PM »


But don't worry guys real communism has never been tried
you've also never tried reading a book

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 05, 2020, 09:28:51 PM »
The fact that Kylo was being built up to be Vader 2.0 but instead turned into some Linkin Park tier rage autist.

The fact that Finn was, well I don't even fucking know what he was meant to be in that movie. If it was comic relief then it was executed abysmally. He ended up just being a non entity character.

And yeah, the fact that Lukes characterisation was essentially intergalactic Tom Hanks in Castaway that does absolutely nothing throughout the film with the exception of being a lame bait and switch "gotcha" moment for Kylo in the climax.

PTSD Luke as a concept could've been done really well too.
i personally don't enjoy it when characters are written with cookiecutters, much less under the auspices of fanboys on how characters "should" act

and are you seriously implying that Darth Vader 2.0 wouldn't have been the lamest and most uninteresting route they could've taken with kylo ren's character

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The Flood / Re: Post Trash Fetishes
« on: May 05, 2020, 07:04:03 PM »
yeah but where do tomboys fit in to all of this
like many of the words we've been using, i feel like the concept of "tomboy" is strictly colloquial, and doesn't really have a concrete or workable definition—"girl who likes guy stuff" is extremely vague, because then we have to define what "guy stuff" is, and that's dangerous territory

i feel like the attraction to the idea of tomboyism in particular just comes from the desire to have a number of shared interests with your partner, which is not atypical, and says virtually nothing about your sexuality

that said, i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that at least 99% of male attraction towards tomboys comes from a decidedly heterosexual place

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The Flood / Re: Today is Karl Marx's birthday
« on: May 05, 2020, 04:55:06 PM »
capitalism, on the other hand, has never killed anybody ever

everyone knows that

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 05, 2020, 04:48:23 PM »
Nah, The Last Jedi was dope af.

You're damned if you subvert expectations and you're damned if you give the fans what they want.

Personally, I don't care what the fans want. All that matters is the artist's vision for the film; Artists with integrity ignore the opinions and wants of their fans.
There's having an artistic vision and then there's being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

If you're trying to argue that the meandering mess of TLJ and its contradictory character development is an artistic vision, then sorry to say, it's not a very good one.
still the best one in the film franchise
Nope.
what do you mean by "contradictory character development" anyway

i swear to god, if you're talking about how luke was written

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Gaming / Re: So, The Last of Us 2 leaks....
« on: May 05, 2020, 04:43:24 PM »
Nah, The Last Jedi was dope af.

You're damned if you subvert expectations and you're damned if you give the fans what they want.

Personally, I don't care what the fans want. All that matters is the artist's vision for the film; Artists with integrity ignore the opinions and wants of their fans.
There's having an artistic vision and then there's being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

If you're trying to argue that the meandering mess of TLJ and its contradictory character development is an artistic vision, then sorry to say, it's not a very good one.
still the best one in the film franchise

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The Flood / Re: Today is Karl Marx's birthday
« on: May 05, 2020, 03:35:40 PM »
he liked guns too much and that's my only problem with him

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The Flood / Re: WHERE IS CAMNATOR
« on: May 05, 2020, 11:55:00 AM »
i will never understand this website's turnaround on this obnoxious fuckhead

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Gaming / Re: Picked up Kingdom Hearts: The Story So Far
« on: May 05, 2020, 12:26:34 AM »
okay, it's over

here's a quick little write-up, because this game hurt me:



Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories

This game fucking sucks, and I'm super glad to be done with it. I would have much preferred to play the sprite-based original, just so that I didn't have to put up with the recycled assets and the subpar voice acting, but those are the VERY least of this game's problems.

While the story, characters, and themes did end up surprising me quite a bit, and have me intrigued with what the rest of the series has to offer from a narrative standpoint alone, I won't allow those things to tint my perception of the overall experience, because as much as I enjoyed those aspects, I believe video games should be rated as video games.

That being said, this is a miserable video game. The card-based combat mechanics (which I was initially excited for, because I love card games) are actually just basic numbes-game dogshit comprised entirely of braindead gimmicks and laughable RNG-fueled fuckery; the sort of tedium I might have expected (and perhaps forgiven) from an NES title, but certainly not something made in the 2000s. Combine this shit with the oh-so prescient gacha-based card collecting system, and you have one hell of an unsatisfying gameplay loop that feeds primarily into your most reptilian instincts.

The worlds are not only rehashed from KH1, but are also heavily homogenized, to a point where if they were stripped of their specific Disney-themed coats of paint, you simply wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Nothing interesting or memorable happens in any of these worlds. Just a mindless and watered down version of the Disney movies they're based on. KH1's worlds sucked in similar ways, but at least they weren't so woefully bereft of Disney charm.

I can appreciate that they tried experimenting with this one, because that's admirable in its own right, but this was an unequivocal failure. I feel like there's a decent game hiding in here somewhere, but it was lost in an array of disconnected and rearranged memories (or something). As a result, this is probably the worst game I've ever finished--or at least, the most unhappy I've ever been over the course of a video game playthrough.

So yeah, bad game. Shame that it wasn't just made into a movie like 358/2 Days was.

3/10



now, onto more pressing matters

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Gaming / Re: Picked up Kingdom Hearts: The Story So Far
« on: May 03, 2020, 08:27:22 PM »
this is one of the shittiest games i've ever played in my entire life

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Pretty sure Verbatim has said he wouldn’t date a trans woman. I’m too lazy to find the post, though.
i know the posts you're talking about, but i've had a lot of time since then to ponder my feelings about this

in the end, i've decided that i would be okay with it—as long as i'm attracted to you, it doesn't matter
So, when is your first date with Carmen?
nevuary 32nd

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Pretty sure Verbatim has said he wouldn’t date a trans woman. I’m too lazy to find the post, though.
i know the posts you're talking about, but i've had a lot of time since then to ponder my feelings about this

in the end, i've decided that i would be okay with it—as long as i'm attracted to you, it doesn't matter

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