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47731
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:48:59 PM »
I may be wrong, but I thought "transgender" referred to people who changed their sex. See, to me, that doesn't make any sense. A change of sex should be called tran sexual. Which it is.
47732
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:38:58 PM »
No insult would be the "proper" insult around these parts. That's really my whole point. Insults are improper by nature, but "improper" does not mean "slanderous". Slander should be considered worse than a vanilla "proper" insult. Frankly, slanderous statements should beget vilification.
47733
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:32:21 PM »
You definitely implied that that was a proper insult. Is dumbcunt a proper insult too? No I didn't. Holy batshit, you're a fucking imbecile... A "proper" insult is one that isn't slander, like the pig rapist example that I gave. The fact that I have to spam this topic with non-sequitur bullshit just to explain this simple shit to you retards is pathetic.
47734
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:25:29 PM »
is that really what you'd consider a quality insult? Dumbcunt alert. The "quality" of the insult isn't the point, jackass. The point is that he's clearly not a Nazi, nor is he a pig rapist. As far as I know. In terms you can understand (maybe): Slander is bad. If he can't demonstrate SecondClass's bigotry, he has no place calling him a bigot. Blocked.
47735
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:15:04 PM »
Calling SecondClass a bigot is pretty silly. Is someone who wants to find a way to prevent/treat autism an ableist?
Because calling out semantics will get you so far. You know what I meant, don't bother twisting it.
Well, if you're going to fucking impinge on someone's character, that's just kinda bullshit, isn't it? Yeah, it's called SLANDER. Would you like me to call you a Nazi pig rapist? You're the most Nazi-esque pig raping fucktoid I've ever seen. There. Is that a fair way to argue? No, insult someone properly if you're gonna do it at all. Please. My point is that you're obviously just trying to call him a bigot because you know it'll make you look like the good guy. It's a cheap ploy. No, he's not a bigot, no one here's a bigot in that regard (except maybe PSU), find a better insult.
47736
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:08:10 PM »
Calling SecondClass a bigot is pretty silly. Is someone who wants to find a way to prevent/treat autism an ableist?
47737
« on: September 14, 2014, 06:05:01 PM »
Now you're talking about gender roles, which aren't the same thing as gender itself. No, I... wasn't, but okay? It's because I said "masculinity" and "femininity", right. I just said that because I didn't know how else to refer to the dichotomy if you don't like the differentiation of sex and gender. See, this is what you do... I mean fuck.
47738
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:59:22 PM »
Not really for my own convenience, more for the sake of objective truth. The discrepancies between mental and physical masculinity/femininity, being the main topic of discussion, are differentiated easily by referring to the mental as "gender" and the physical as "sex". Why would you purposely make discussion more difficult by arbitrarily creating a line of equivalence between the two words? As if the English language is the ultimate, infallible dictator of all meaning in the universe. As if words have never had their definitions changed drastically in the past.
47739
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:53:51 PM »
Except it's not a fake concept. Take off your pants and look down. Do you have a penis or a vagina? That, and that alone, determines what your gender is. What you're doing right now, basically, is arbitrarily merging two concepts for your own convenience, which is petty and willfully ignorant. The thing is, I'm totally with you on this argument, but to say that "gender" isn't a mere contrivance and is the same thing as sex is a sign of intellectual bankruptcy. How can we discuss this if you're going to just bend words to your own will?
47740
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:51:55 PM »
No, sex and gender are synonyms. What you'd be better of saying is this: Gender is a fake concept. A social construct. A contrivance. Something that we made exist simply by perceptual fiat. Kinda like the "value" of gold, or our perception of who we are—it is a mark of who we are in our minds. Treating ideas as though they hold any water in our material world gives a lot of people comfort, whether you like it or not.
47741
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:40:23 PM »
This is essentially the line I try to take.
Although, it's heavily dependent on how you define "disorder". As a layman, here's my general, roundabout theory. The shit that's supposed to work one way instead works some other way. So basically, most of the human race has... disorderly genes. Variation, you might call it? Or mutation. Which are components of evolution, of course. And we all know just how real that shit is. Except PSU, hysterically.
47742
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:37:37 PM »
If you're born with a penis, you're a man. If you're born with a vagina, you're a woman.
Objectively incorrect.
Sex =/= gender.
He meant to say "biologically male" and "biologically female". Keyword being "biologically". Our SecondClass friend isn't good with words, be easy with him. He didn't even say "boy" and "girl", he literally said you're born a man or woman. But no one's pointing that out.
47743
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:33:19 PM »
Going by proper delineation of what constitutes a mental disorder, yes, I would argue that even homosexuality is a mental disorder.
But that doesn't make it bad, wrong, "lesser", or more disgusting than any other sexual orientation/gender identification (indeed, I think they're all equally useless and disgusting).
It just means something went awry during the whole genetic makeup process, or something like that. I'm not a neuroscientist. Overall, it's entirely inconsequential and a complete non-issue to anyone of rational tutelage.
47744
« on: September 14, 2014, 05:25:29 PM »
Name calling will get you nowhere kid. It gets my dick hard. Also, hypocrite. Call me a "kid" in a meager attempt at sounding bigger than me. Your insecurities are blatant, obvious, and I'm relishing in my ability to psychologically pick your vulnerable ass apart like a bad supper. And also yes, they WERE saying it isn't human, because murder is wrong but abortion isn't "up to a point". That point is when they think there is finally a human involved, when in fact its a human being the whole time. Well, they're idiots then, because hey, guess what, if abortion is murder, then maybe murder isn't all that bad, and we should reconsider the connotations associated with the word. You pull heartstrings, that's all you're here to do, and it's a waste of time.
47745
« on: September 14, 2014, 02:32:49 PM »
If you scored on the lower end of fairness, what would you pick?
Would you say both Libertarian and Conservative?
Also, the way it is now, it's impossible to score Libertarian in Loyalty.
47746
« on: September 14, 2014, 02:24:28 PM »
I really don't understand why.
47747
« on: September 14, 2014, 02:21:51 PM »
4.5 Liberal
4.5 Liberal
0.0 Liberal
0.0 Libertarian
3.0 Conservative
Why the intervals?
47748
« on: September 14, 2014, 01:01:39 PM »
There may not be an "objective moral truth", but as sapient humans with such a high capacity for construction, critical thinking, problem solving, so forth... I would say we're basically obligated to prevent suffering to the best of our ability. It's this type of high-minded ideal that furthers society and prevents nihilistic cunts from doing anything the fuck they want to do, when they have no right, according to this basic moral law that we have imposed for the good of sentient life. I don't understand.
Are you saying moral truths exist for those who are empathetic? I'm saying it would be in the best interest of the species to sort of impose moral truths. We can come up with these moral truths on our own by using empathy. I don't want to fucking suffer and die. She doesn't want to fucking suffer and die. As well as I am able to perform, I am going to prevent anyone from experiencing anything that I wouldn't personally want to experience.
47749
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:58:26 PM »
I'm talking about people who are capable of full empathy, now. That is, 90% of the rational population.
47750
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:56:08 PM »
And that's your prerogative, as I stated, but really, recognize the basic truth that theft is wrong and realize that's just what he did.
^-- I hate when that shit happens.
47751
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:52:44 PM »
"Question Authority" Get your priorities straightened out. "Don't have kids."
47752
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:50:44 PM »
If you have a capacity to experience and dwell on suffering (sentience), then your value is 1.
If you don't (nonsentience), your value is 0.
Those that can suffer hold the only value in the universe.
47753
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:44:27 PM »
Out of interest, if a person were to absolutely declare that his parents made the right choice - almost like an ex post declaration of consent - would that absolve the parents of any wrongdoing? Basically, "it's not rape if she enjoys it." I think you know how that goes, but... Basically, no. I don't deny that 90% of the population has basically "forgiven" their parents, never directly, but through... not hating their fucking guts or harboring any level of distaste for their choice to have them. You can do that, whatever, that's your prerogative, but that by no means makes any nonconsensual act justified. If a thief steals your money, wins the lottery, and gives the winnings to you, making you a profit, are you angry at him? He could have lost, he literally gambled your money away. If he lost, he would have nothing to return. Personally, I would've stomped a mudhole in him, verbally or otherwise.
47754
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:34:50 PM »
It looks like a human because HOLY CRAP its a human baby. No duh. So you're telling me that it looks human because it is human. ...As if anyone was trying to tell you anything different. Patronizing prick. By the way, this "right to choose" argument is really bogus. I'd have no problem with life itself if life itself was voluntary, so that's why I'm an anti-natalist. So, unless you declare yourself an anti-natalist, you can't make the "right to choose" argument. It's internally inconsistent and hypocritical to do so. And I don't mean to change the subject or inject my philosophy into the discussion, but Jesus, that shit drives me UP the fucking wall.
47755
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:28:44 PM »
if your parents were pro abortion, you wouldn't even be here to argue about this.
That really is a stupid thing to say. No one is "pro abortion".
You underestimate my power.
47756
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:20:32 PM »
As I said: deeming that future person as "inhuman" because people believe somehow that "doesn't look like a baby yet = not human" is just a cop-out. And saying that you can't kill something just because "IT LOOKS TOO HUMAN" is just a bunch of emotional heartstring propaganda bullshit.
47757
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:13:38 PM »
You would "despite it"? I don't even know what that means.
If you meant, "You'd think I'd spite my parents for trying to abort me, but I don't..." Yeah, that's probably what you meant.
No, I wouldn't think anyone with a rational brain would be all that upset over the prospect of being aborted.
Well, that's not a "prospect", but you know what I mean.
47758
« on: September 14, 2014, 12:10:43 PM »
2) if you were the one being aborted, would you still support abortion? Support the fact that you never get a chance to live or breathe, simply because of somebody's preference? Oh GOD. This MAY just have given me cancer. I'm pretty sure it did. As a pro-death individual, I think I'd respect my parent's choice to not force me into life, as if life is the greatest goddamn thing in the whole godless world. They shouldn't have conceived me to begin with, sure, they should have been more careful during sex, sure, but only because of two or three external factors unrelated to my fucking existence. If someone was gonna buy me lottery tickets, but did so by stealing my money, and then changed their mind and returned what they stole, I'd be a pretty fucking happy camper.
47759
« on: September 14, 2014, 04:46:13 AM »
We'll get through this...
Together. I was gonna call you an inept shitstain, but then I realized that you're quite good at the whole shitstain thing.
47760
« on: September 14, 2014, 04:40:41 AM »
Yeah, as if anyone cares if there's a "designated spam thread". Because Solonoid says so. People are just gonna spam and shitpost elsewhere, you dumb moron. Fuck.
And yeah, you are a shitposter, by the way. Sorry to break it to you.
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