Half past one.

I don't allow people to be in my presence if they are not sober. Be alone.

It would bring new meaning to the word autism.

Wouldn't it dilute it, because I'm, like, not autistic?

Aw, I liked it being visible.

I guess it did sort of make it a commodity, though...

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 07:48:12 PM

Quote from: challengerX on December 04, 2014, 07:44:43 PM

Don't worry, already dealt with that and more.

your own opinion on life doesn't justify life

But your opinion justifies nonexistence?

Because the burden of proof isn't on me to demonstrate why, because I'm making the negative assertion, placing the onus on you to demonstrate why life is worth living. Sorry.

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 07:45:29 PM

Quote from: DemonicChronic on December 04, 2014, 07:42:38 PM

Your definition of logic seems to be akin to action and reaction, or karma (consequence.)

I hope you're not accusing me in believing in that mystical "what comes around goes around" bullshit. Like, if someone does something bad, they're always gonna get their comeuppance in some form or another? No, I don't believe that crazy shit, but I assume you mean it in a more broad sense that I was not sure of the existence of.

Karma isn't some mystical force. It's just the nature of consequence and influence.

IE: If you play with fire long enough, you'll eventually get burned. Not because some divine force decided to teach you a lesson. Simply because you made a mistake and burned yourself.

A broader example is that if you cause suffering then there will undoubtedly be more suffering in the environment you happen to be in and you will inevitably suffer more yourself, unless you somehow manage to escape the influence of your actions or just stop caring about anything that would cause you to suffer to the point that your ego is unaffected by it all.

I prefer to call that "statistical inevitability."

Think about it this way:

Would you rather fuck someone with only an ass, only titties, or someone who has both?

Checkmate, autists.

That's not the question, though. I prefer breasts to ass, but if you don't have an ass, I'm gonna have trouble having sex with you. But that doesn't mean I prefer ass just for that.

Don't worry, already dealt with that and more.

You've had cancer? You've been tortured? You've been shot? Stabbed? Mutilated? Starved?

I mean, your own opinion on life doesn't justify life, either, so either way, it's irrelevant.

Everybody goes through shit.

I hope you go through the absolute worst of it, then. Then tell me life is worth it. I wanna steal all your money and then tell you do deal with it, or off yourself, if that's honestly your attitude about it.

The fact that you can make the conscious statement of "Everybody goes through shit" and not see that as a problem is disgusting. Because you're right, everybody DOES go through shit, but everybody doesn't HAVE to go through shit. You just have to not impose life upon them.

It always comes down to your ridiculous self inflicted genocide or whatever you call it.

I like how if the population decides not to have kids anymore, that's genocide to you. I guess that makes everyone who's already not having kids serial killers.

Evil outweighs it, by far. It's also evil to want things to exist just because you personally think it's "good". It's called selfishness.

If all sentient life was gone then I say that nothing would be solved because all issues would not exist, and there would be nothing to solve in the first place.

The important thing is that there would be nothing wrong, either.

And I say that there is no rationality in such an event because sentience must exist for rationality to even manifest.

Sounds like presuppositionalist bullshit, to me.

I guess I'm for the destruction of rationality, too, then. I don't care. My whole point is that humans suffer, and the ones who don't suffer still have the capacity to do so and the ability to cause others to suffer through reproduction. This is an insidious waste and it should cease to exist.

What you're basically arguing for, right now, is the perpetuation of problems. You want problems to exist. That's... Yeah, that's evil.

Then where is the rationality in dying?

You realize that's exactly what I'm trying to say, right?

Here's an interesting thought:
If all life on Earth (from all the kingdoms) killed themselves, every problem in the world would be solved. Perhaps even the universe.

But it has to be everything.

You didn't explain that your suicidal thoughts were the culmination of multiple issues.

I figured that much would have been obvious.

And if you believe that such a quick end to suffering is rational, then why do you endure?

Siiiigh.

I've been asked this question a mind-numbing number of times.

First of all, a lot of people would be affected if I were to kill myself. I don't feel like giving my friends and family years of depression of their own. Secondly, there's still a lot for me to do in this life. I have many projects I'd like to finish, and messages to send. If I'm a slave during the slave trade, and I want to end slavery, I'm not going to succeed by killing myself. No, I'm going to attempt, in whatever ways I am able to, to make change so that future generations can live more comfortably (and peacefully cease to be once everyone hopefully becomes anti-natalist).

Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 06:31:36 PM

Because it's weird for a human not to want to be alive? I don't think that's weird at all. I think that's rational, mostly.

Yes, it is weird. It's unhealthy, unnatural. The natural state of mind for all life is survival at all costs. If you think about killing yourself and death as normal way to think, then...well it's pretty obvious that you're mentally unhealthy.

That is insane.

Did you know that I'm an anti-natalist? I believe that it is wrong to have children, and I don't view "survival" as a good enough reason to impose life on other sentient beings. I think we should all go extinct. I guess I have a huge mental problem.

"Unnatural" is a fallacy. I don't buy it for a second. Excrement is natural, murder is natural, rape is natural. None of these things are good or desirable. Neither is life.

"Unhealthy"? How? If someone doesn't like life, why can't they just not like life? Why does it mean that they are retarded or something?

so you'd rather self-diagnose and live under the impression that your depression isnt treatable? here's a reality check, kid: it's all in your head.

I don't want to be treated, kid. Here's a reality check: Life fucking sucks. I SHOULDN'T be complacent about it. I SHOULD be depressed all the time.