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3421
« on: April 17, 2018, 08:46:30 AM »
Yeah, Schopenhauer's misogyny is well-documented and one of the more regrettable aspects of his worldview.
3422
« on: April 16, 2018, 11:57:02 AM »
The extra s is redundant as the sound is already implied, and it just looks weird.
you look weird how is the sound implied, all it makes me think of is group possession
3423
« on: April 16, 2018, 11:30:54 AM »
class's*
why?
So if my understanding is right then its spelt like this
Class's . The additional s is added because the s before it is pronounced, so another is required after the apostrophe to show the change in sound.
The exception to this rule is if the s before the apostrophe is silent.
You also dont need to add the additional s if the word used has the same sound as it does in plural and verbally....for instance boys. You'd spell it as boys' not boys's
Its all about common sense to how something is pronounced.
that is 100% correct
the dude with the worst spelling and grammar on the website just fucking schooled all of you
Except the English language has never been concerned with spelling things the way they're actually pronounced.
it still has a baseline, and the faggy s' shit violates that baseline
3424
« on: April 16, 2018, 10:29:07 AM »
it's hard for me to feel too bad when older people die, because that's just what happens
he had a good run and gave us more than we could ask for, what more do you want
3425
« on: April 16, 2018, 10:24:44 AM »
class's*
why?
So if my understanding is right then its spelt like this
Class's . The additional s is added because the s before it is pronounced, so another is required after the apostrophe to show the change in sound.
The exception to this rule is if the s before the apostrophe is silent.
You also dont need to add the additional s if the word used has the same sound as it does in plural and verbally....for instance boys. You'd spell it as boys' not boys's
Its all about common sense to how something is pronounced.
that is 100% correct the dude with the worst spelling and grammar on the website just fucking schooled all of you
3426
« on: April 16, 2018, 10:19:15 AM »
class's*
die
this is James' car is correct, you avoid unnecessary space.
this is James's car looks so stupid
james' looks fucking retarded because it looks like you're saying "james" is a family name, and the car belongs to the entire james family—the only time you EVER leave out the "s" is if you're referring to a group james's makes it clear that you're only referring to a single person, and it's consistent with how you pronounce it who gives a fuck about "unnecessary space," clarity is more important than efficiency
3427
« on: April 16, 2018, 09:45:49 AM »
so how's that rap career
3428
« on: April 16, 2018, 09:42:33 AM »
3429
« on: April 16, 2018, 09:39:09 AM »
class's*
why?
think about how you pronounce it
3430
« on: April 16, 2018, 08:16:56 AM »
class's*
3431
« on: April 15, 2018, 10:24:10 PM »
3432
« on: April 15, 2018, 09:43:50 PM »
i'm in the process of watching every single pokémon movie (there's exactly 20 of them) because i feel like it
might make a big-ass worst-to-best list when i'm done
3433
« on: April 15, 2018, 05:47:58 PM »
who
3434
« on: April 15, 2018, 03:02:20 PM »
Happiness is understanding and exploiting the game of biology and Verbatim refuses to play. That's it.
We`re not talking about happiness, we`re talking about jobs. People usually take jobs because they need to survive, not because to be happy. Hobbies exist for happiness. Jobs exist for surviving. Thats it.
well yeah, but the initial point of contention was the notion that "hard work pays off" for something to pay off, it has to make you happy somehow, so the subjects are intertwined in that sense
3435
« on: April 15, 2018, 02:57:17 PM »
I'm not speaking in absolutes, sorry if that isn't clear. I don't mean to say that every single person was happy the entire time they were working, or that every single person that helps keeps society running is industrious. I'm saying that some people work because it gives their life meaning and that without industrious people society would practically fall apart. and to that, i'd probably argue that it's not work itself that's giving their lives meaning, because they'd all rather be doing something else with their lives, and if you'd rather do something else with your life, then how could work possibly be what gives your life meaning if industrious work is genuinely the most meaningful thing about life to you, then yes, you're practically a neanderthal—but i don't think any of these people really exist nobody "likes" work—you just have a bunch of people who either have 1.) an incredibly high work ethic to counteract their distaste for work, 2.) someone who's good at bullshitting themselves into a state of complacency, or 3.) they just have a very high tolerance for the oppressive nature of all labor i was born unlucky, and i lack all of these traits but the bottom line is, you're not going to find a single intelligent person who wouldn't press a button that finishes all of their jobs—that's my contention no one, when that button gets invented, is going to be lament the fact that manual labor has been rendered obsolete Nothing about this view is anything I hadn't already felt deep down long before I ever knew about JBP. You can thank eastern philosophy for instilling me with a respect for the importance and benefits of hard work. it's mostly just your vocabulary that tipped me off to that
3436
« on: April 15, 2018, 01:43:19 PM »
this is your brain on jordan peterson
3437
« on: April 15, 2018, 01:42:36 PM »
Well those supposed "idiots" are what makes our society function. They're the reason you have running water and electricity. They're the people who would save your life were you trapped in a burning building or had been critically injured in some accident. They're the one's who make sure the streets aren't littered with garbage and that our cities aren't decadent. In fact, they're the one's who actually build our cities in the first place.
Your characterization of industrious people looks particularly foolish and ungrateful.
can you empirically PROVE that all of those things were built by people who enjoyed building them and never experienced an ounce of misery or tedium while doing so because i can guarantee that you're dead wrong—NONE of those people were or are industrious
3438
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:42:58 PM »
I don't buy it. Not every person is the same, and I think an industrious person that stays true to who they are will relish in working hard. As a creative and open person, what gives meaning to my life and makes it engaging for me is creating art in some form. When I observe someone industrious, they seem have the same relationship with work. If they weren't able to work as they wished I believe it would be similar to if I was unable to create, which would be certain misery and hopeless nihilism. you never contradicted me here i already covered stupid people in my post, and that's where i file "industrious people" i consider being "industrious" a sign of lower intelligence—you HAVE to be an idiot to enjoy work It's very obvious that you aren't an industrious person so I'm not sure why you would assume that someone who is would have the same relationship with work as you do.
i don't hence why they're idiots and i'm not
3439
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:19:05 PM »
The pay-off is discipline and self-worth.
the payoff is also exhaustion, misery, and age—oftentimes in greater amounts
Hard work doesn't make a person inherently miserable. There are many people that are miserable when they aren't working hard.
i'm really not sure where you're getting that from my post
all i did was express the very real possibility that working hard has its adverse effects—you may be some fucking weirdo who actually likes doing work or some shit, but not everybody is you
that's all i'm saying
I'm not talking about me, I'm not a particularly industrious person, but the way you talk makes it sound like misery is an inevitability with hard work.
i mean in some ways i think it is i think those who work and aren't miserable are either stupid or fooling themselves sometimes you have to fool yourself to keep yourself sane, but i just prefer to be honest deprive people of their freedom, and they'll do all sorts of insane shit to entertain themselves—that's not real happiness
3440
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:12:58 PM »
No sense of accomplishment or pride? Maybe even relief that the work is over?
none whatsoever, mostly because nothing i do is worth pride and i've never actually "accomplished" anything i have to convince myself that the things i do for fun isn't just a waste of time, when they really are there's a very small fraction of worthwhile people who do worthwhile things on this planet, and i'm not one of them—if i wanted to be one of them, i would have to commit to doing all sorts of hard work that i'm not willing to do, because i never asked to be here, and i don't LIKE it here, so i shouldn't be obliged to do any work whatsoever but at the same time, i'm not gonna sit here and pretend as though that doesn't upset me, because i'm allowed to be upset by that
3441
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:08:13 PM »
The pay-off is discipline and self-worth.
the payoff is also exhaustion, misery, and age—oftentimes in greater amounts
Hard work doesn't make a person inherently miserable. There are many people that are miserable when they aren't working hard.
i'm really not sure where you're getting that from my post all i did was express the very real possibility that working hard has its adverse effects—you may be some fucking weirdo who actually likes doing work or some shit, but not everybody is you that's all i'm saying
3442
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:04:28 PM »
This is actually concerning. Does this apply to all work for you?
just the biggest projects you get yourself into the groove of chipping away at this big passion project you've had, and when you finally finish it, there's this feeling of "what the fuck do i even do now" combined with "why the fuck did i spend so much time and effort on this" it's never a good feeling
3443
« on: April 15, 2018, 12:00:19 PM »
That's fine if you're like that but it's a bit silly to assume that's how it works for everyone, and furthermore, that's how it should work for everyone.
you're the one who said "hard work ALWAYS pays off" when it clearly, clearly doesn't you can't fuck around with words like "always" or "never" when it comes to human behavior, because there's always going to be people like me out there
3444
« on: April 15, 2018, 11:52:58 AM »
How do you figure? Exhaustion? Because your body adapts over time. Any job you have now is nothing compared to hunting and gathering so your body has a long way to go before it could be considered "exhausted." Maybe you mean mental exhaustion, in which case you need to work off the cortisol released in your body through exercise or a proper diet. Luckily you're pretty close to the ideal diet, anyway. emotional nobody hates doing work more than i do, because i enjoy hating work, and i will die on that hill i would prefer to enjoy work, but i can't force myself to do that, and even if i could, i wouldn't, because forcing yourself to enjoy things that you viscerally do not sounds completely insane to me Misery? Humans are wired to feel good after completing something that needs to be done especially if you don't want to do it. you just described the exact opposite of how reality works, especially for me i finish something i've been working on and the next thing i want to do is kill myself i feel nothing but sheer emptiness And age comes for everyone
but i don't feel myself getting older unless i'm working
3445
« on: April 15, 2018, 11:37:08 AM »
This is something verbatim can never understand in his current mindset, there's no use arguing. He has thoroughly convinced himself that life is unfair but should be fair, otherwise life doesn't deserve to exist. Until he moves on from this childish idea that he (or anybody else) is entitled to anything, there's no benefit to discussing anything seriously with him.
it's a childish idea even though very few children would agree with me and most children would agree with you but yeah you're right life should be unfair
3446
« on: April 15, 2018, 11:11:29 AM »
The pay-off is discipline and self-worth.
the payoff is also exhaustion, misery, and age—oftentimes in greater amounts so, assuming you get enough of those two things to overpower the three negative things (and i'm only scraping the surface), and assuming you even value those two things to begin with, i guess under the most generous definitions possible, you could look under a magnifying glass and find trace amounts of you possibly being right if i give you that much leverage "i died tired, miserable, and existentially unfulfilled, but at least i had discipline"
3447
« on: April 15, 2018, 10:46:26 AM »
there's also no shortage of hardworking people who died never having amounted to anything, unless "amounting to anything" isn't your idea of hard work paid off
how about the military, does that ever pay off for the average person
3448
« on: April 15, 2018, 10:43:52 AM »
Hard work always pays off.
nah
Yeah, even if you're just building a habit of working hard.
i would like to point you to the slave trade
3449
« on: April 15, 2018, 10:31:46 AM »
Hard work always pays off.
nah
3450
« on: April 15, 2018, 01:34:54 AM »
WOOOOOOOOOOOOW
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