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The Flood / Re: I've finally started it!
« on: May 09, 2019, 02:14:19 PM »
How did you come to that conclusion?
I mean, it's one thing to have your grievances with Carmen and then use her trans identity against her because of pre-existing problems (it's still not okay but it's understandable,) it's another to call someone a degenerate because they're using hormone suppliments.
it's banter

cheat said the exact same thing about solonoid, which was pointed out, and the sentiment is merely being echoed as a lighthearted jab

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The Flood / Re: How good are your baking skills?
« on: May 09, 2019, 12:05:20 PM »
have not baked one thing

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What do you mean? The dropdown works for me. "Read your messages" takes you to the inbox and "Send a message" takes you to writer/editor.
No when creating a new thread
Still works there for me. No idea what you're talking about.
he's talking about this shit



the drop-down menu itself works fine, but it doesn't do anything, in spite of it always being there

since there was no such feature on bungie.old, cheat had no reason to incorporate it into the site's design, but rather than just remove it, it just kinda hangs there vestigially, and it's a little awkward

i assume that it's hardcoded and impossible to remove, or it's a small enough detail that cheat doesn't care

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The Flood / Re: Graduated
« on: May 05, 2019, 01:27:40 PM »
Congrats. What kind of degree? Master's?
he said AA

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The Flood / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« on: May 03, 2019, 12:43:11 PM »
I can think of a certain big name Disney movie coming out this December that could definitely use a second chief in charge *cough*cough*Star Wars*cough*.
Yeah, like Rian Johnson!

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Gaming / Re: Game collecting
« on: May 02, 2019, 11:57:11 AM »
Picked up Mega Man 64, Excitebike 64, and Jeremy McGrath Supercross 2000 a couple days ago.

I'm also very elated to have picked one of these up:



three versions of street fighter 2, although Super Turbo is the only one that matters as far as i'm concerned

(do not ask me what's being reflected off the monitor)

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Gaming / Re: Super Smash Brothers
« on: May 02, 2019, 11:26:15 AM »
how does he not like the stage builder wtf

i get that it's 95% memes for most people but mechanically it's pretty objectively the best one we've had

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The Flood / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« on: May 01, 2019, 11:19:10 AM »
uhh nah

the movie was cool and all but im not interested in learning the backstories and events leading up to it
yeah, it's kinda a lot

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The Flood / Re: Happy kick a stoner day
« on: May 01, 2019, 11:10:17 AM »
verb watch more anime
Maybe

evangelion is coming to netflix in june with a new dub, and since it's on the verge of becoming my new favorite japanese cartoon i'm actually decently hyped for it, so i might post about that

the mass consumption of garbage that i was doing before was... not healthy, though

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The Flood / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« on: May 01, 2019, 11:08:32 AM »
okay so the movie was cool

i prolly missed a buttload of references, easter eggs and the like but i mostly followed along

but i i had to ask my friend a lotta questions, like who is this and that and why did blank happen
would you say this sparked an interest for the rest of the movies for you

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The Flood / Re: Verb, have you seen this film?
« on: May 01, 2019, 11:06:27 AM »
semester's finally over, so i'll check this out tonight

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: May 01, 2019, 11:04:05 AM »
i actually need to rewatch book 3 i think, my memories of it are very spotty in spite of it getting the most praise

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The Flood / Re: Do You Use A Top Sheet?
« on: April 30, 2019, 10:53:09 PM »
have you never been to a hotel

also no fuck that

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 02:07:15 PM »
LOL dude, I'm far from alone in loving these people. You just have the bleakest outlook in the world, and it certainly extends to how you feel about fictional worlds and the characters within them.
you're also comparing episodic comedies to a serial drama

aku is likable as shit because he's funny and revels in how evil he is, and because of that, i'm willing to embrace it without question

azula can't revel in how evil she is, because she doesn't think she's evil, so i can't embrace her, because TLA takes itself more seriously than samurai jack does

in fact, i think that really pinpoints the issue—azula doesn't THINK she's evil, yet she still possesses the exact same personality that every card-carrying villain does, ie. she still BEHAVES like someone who knows they're evil, but she doesn't; and it's the incongruence of these tropes that puts me off so much

if a villain doesn't think or understand why they're evil, i need the writers to convince me that, in some twisted version of reality, that her raison d'être makes sense—and for me, it just doesn't in azula's case

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:45:15 PM »
But these flaws just make us love the character more.
nope

it seems to me that you just like shit characters

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The Flood / Re: "Grey Delisle isn't a good VA"
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:38:21 PM »
she was better as mandy than she was as azula for sure

every character she's ever voiced irritates me except frankie foster and sam manson

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:20:39 PM »
note that one part:
>her "flaws" are meant to be endearing

yes, i would say that azula's flaws are specifically crafted to endear you to her

normally, well-written character flaws are supposed to make you like the character a little bit less for the purpose of the narrative, or at the very least, put you in a mindset where you hope that they improve themselves over the course of the story

with villains it's tricky because you're not supposed to be on their side, but you're supposed to be able to understand WHY they are the way they are—with zuko, you could do this; with azula, you could not

when zuko was still a villain, it was great because his flaws were sensible and real and gave you the impression that his character is redeemable in some way—maybe not RIGHT at the beginning when he first debuted, but each episode slowly unraveled his (genuinely sympathetic) backstory at a pace that made sense and allowed the viewers to digest his inner motives, on top of giving us a lot of enigmatic things to chew on, like the first blue spirit episode

with azula, it was clear from the beginning that she's irredeemable, which instantly makes her less interesting as a character because there's practically no room for development

azula's only flaws are designed to make you feel bad for her, when she simply doesn't deserve to be felt bad for, and i think expecting me as a viewer to start liking her all of a sudden just because she has this sad little trite backstory which wasn't made clear to us until VERY late into the series is a LOT to ask of me, because it's so contrived and unearned

obviously you don't have to like every character in a story, and writers shouldn't be expected to only write likable characters, that's the opposite of what i want

the problem is that azula is written to be a cool villain and she's not, she's WAY too strong to be an interesting threat and none of her "flaws" matter or make you feel like there's any possibility that she won't find a way out of everything, plus she's such an over-the-top cunt that i just get annoyed with her personality more than i've ever enjoyed any of her dumb one-liners

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 01:07:50 PM »
There's no set definition for this type of character,
i was always well-aware of this, and i thought that you were too—the whole idea is that i think my definition is better than yours, because it's much broader and captures the essence of the common tendency for writers to want to write "perfect" characters, whether it be a weak attempt at inserting a projection of themselves into the narrative, or a projection of their innate desire to write a perfect character that everyone will think is cool (which is where azula lies)

sues are characters born from insecurity, or a lack of confidence in one's own writing skills; that is the common denominator

you can like her all you want, but your overzealous appreciation of her has always come across to me as shallow fetishization more than anything else, which has always been extremely off-putting

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 30, 2019, 12:45:34 PM »
the true definition of a mary sue is an author insert
nope

sometimes it's a manifestation of a writer's desire to create the coolest possible character that is impossible to dislike or even criticize because of how perfect she is, NOT as a person (because nobody is perfect), NOT as a character (because all good characters have flaws), but as a figment of the narrative

she checks all the prescriptive boxes that a "cool villain" is supposed to arbitrarily check, every single one, which has the effect of making her less cool because they tried too hard, and it shows

this is why it backfires so hard and so often when writers write like this, because they're so afraid of writing actual characters that they resort to leaning on prescriptive notions of what makes a character good, rather than taking risks and being creative

and that's bad

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The Flood / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« on: April 30, 2019, 12:06:03 PM »
nope, ive never seen a marvel movie in my life
that's honestly perfect

you're gonna be maximum lost

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The Flood / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« on: April 29, 2019, 11:33:29 PM »
so my friend is dragging me to watch it w/ him tmr, since he doesnt wanna watch it alone
you'll have a unique perspective, to say the least

have you seen any of them at all

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The Flood / Re: Avengers: Endgame
« on: April 28, 2019, 07:43:55 PM »
kind of a ridiculous mess of a movie, but i still had a good time

everything that needed to happen wound up happening, which i'm happy about, but i definitely didn't like it as much infinity war

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 28, 2019, 10:32:50 AM »
azula being a cunt is justified given that she's a villain

what makes her a lame character is her tendency to be sue-ish
How is she sue-ish at all when her character's goal, not the way she's written, is perfection? She's not perfect whatsoever, and that's fucking foreshadowed in the first episode she appears in:


("One hair out of place...")

As Jono mentioned, she's terribly lacking in all social skills (look at Zuko Alone for perfect example of how she uses fear, not genuine social maneuvering, to keep friends - Azula attempts a cartwheel and fails, Ty Lee attempts one and does an amazing one with a flourish at the end, Azula pushes her down and laughs), and lacks a basic grasp of how love, empathy, and paternal affection operate.

If you think she's perfect in any way, you severely missed the point of the writing of the character, and it makes me worry about how many other basic points in the show you also failed to grasp, out of laziness or pure lack of literary skill.
mary sues are not defined exclusively by perfection, so that shows how much you know right there

having just enough "flaws" to make you think she's not a sue actually makes her an even MORE egregious example of one, because it's a significantly less honest and cheap way to go about earning our sympathy, when she doesn't actually earn it at any point whatsoever

so in a way, you're right—she's worse than a sue, because the way she's written in the show, a villain sue played straight would actually make her marginally more likable as a character, because they're not trying to fool the less intelligent viewers into thinking she's sympathetic or relatable in any way that feels realistic or natural for the kind of personality she has

not better than having no sue tendencies at all, of course, but better than pretending that she has none, which is only part of what makes her the biggest blemish on the series (other than all the gross and unnecessary child romance)

grey delisle's VAing is to blame, too, given the overall ham-fistedness of her performance—if she's supposed to be this grounded, nuanced human character, the fact that no effort is made to make her sound like it either means that delisle wasn't given proper direction, she's an incompetent VA, or the character was never meant to be all that sympathetic to begin with, making all the attempts at humanizing her towards the end of the series seem jarring, hackneyed, and rushed (or, all of the above)

whatever the case, she's the worst and most insufferable fucking character in the entire show, because Mike and Bryan just couldn't agree, apparently, on whether to make azula more sympathetically human, or completely monstrous—two concepts that don't mix at all, and never have, but they tried anyway (and, imo, utterly failed)

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The Flood / Re: I Just Ate Pizza With Mold On It
« on: April 27, 2019, 01:21:41 PM »
bread mold isn't even harmful iirc unless you're allergic or some shit

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The Flood / Re: Happy kick a stoner day
« on: April 26, 2019, 06:54:40 PM »
sounds like someone needs to smoke a j
Kill yourself

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The Flood / Re: 1995 albums
« on: April 25, 2019, 08:40:33 AM »
how far are you willing to go to listen to an album that isn't freely available on any streaming service and has no seeded torrents

turns out, i'm willing to go pretty fucking far
I am intrigued
so, i was in the process of listening to the first two albums of some fuck-off garage rock band called Railroad Jerk leading up to their 1995 album, One Track Mind, but since they don't have a spotify, i had to try for youtube, which usually has everything i could ever want

i was able to find and listen to a full upload of their entire self-titled debut, which is not a good album by any means, but because they're such an unpopular band, the upload did not have any advertisements breaking up any of the songs whatsoever, which made for a nice listening experience (i'm opposed to adblockers, so this is rare for me)

the second album, Raise the Plow, was a bitch and a half to find on the internet, and i was about to give up before i decided it would actually be a kind of fun little game to play to piece the album together using my google-fu

no spotify, no youtube, no torrents—short of buying a physical copy of the album from amazon, or digging through my dad's colossal CD collection (which assumes he even has what i'm looking for), i had to find ten individual songs all on my own

the band does have a myspace page with three albums, but none of the albums are complete, and none of them contained any of the songs i was looking for

only three tracks (#1, #4, and #9) were available for listening on youtube, but in order to make any use of these, i had to find every single track in-between, as well, since i'm not gonna listen to the album out of order

YouTube

at the end of the game, this is the quality of music that i can look forward to

as most people should know by now, the secret to google-fu is the clever use of quotation marks, which forces the engine to only give you results in the exact order specified in your search query—and depending on where i place the quotation marks, i might just be able to narrow down the results to what i'm looking for

- railroad jerk [song title]
- railroad jerk "[song title]"
- "railroad jerk [song title]"
- "[song title] railroad jerk"

each of these queries would yield wildly different results, and each of them was necessary to find all ten tracks

Track #2 was found on some old-looking russian online radio website that happened to upload entire playlists of radio segments, where i was able to find the track about an hour and thirty-seven minutes into one of them (not that i listened through the whole thing; they had each of the songs listed and timestamped, which was rather convenient)

Track #3 was found on some shady german music sampling website with individual songs uploaded, but every time you clicked on anything, at least two or three malicious ads would pop up, but i was undeterred—the bitrate on this track was so fucking bad, too, but i was just happy to have found the track or free

at this point, it's not even about listening to the full album, and more about seeing if i can ACTUALLY complete it through this process

Track #5 was probably the craziest one—i found it on a super shady .mp3 provider, but before it let me download anything, it gave me a list of these "offers," and i had to pick one to accept before it allowed me to proceed

most of these "offers" involved luring you in with something like a $100 gift card to some restaurant, which in turn involved signing up to some other creepy website that asks for your credit card details and shit, but one of the offers just had you play a simple dungeon-crawling browser game where you play as a skeleton with a spear until you've killed at least three other players, or thirty-three NPCs

it was the shittiest and cheapest game you've ever seen in your life, but i was determined to complete this shitty '90s rock album that nobody has ever listened to, so i went ahead and actually did it—i killed thirty-three NPCs (which sucked, not just because the game sucks, but because every time you died, you had to start all over from zero)

and then it didn't give the file to me OH WELL (i wound up finding it somewhere else anyway)

still four more songs to go—every now and then, i would happen upon some other eastern european music sampling websites that would give you the option to stream the song first before downloading it, but more often than not, it would end up playing a completely different song—either frank sinatra or some shitty-ass pop song that had nothing to do with anything, and it would always alternate between those two no matter what jank-ass website i stumbled on

it wasn't before too long before i actually completed it, though

Tracks #6, #7, #8, and #10 i was able to find uploads of on various blogs (one of them being tumblr, of all things) that uploaded these foreign music "podcasts," which are essentially just these two-hour playlists of the most random collections of songs ever, and had each of their songs listed below the player (in that weird "[song title] [band name]" format, which was throwing my queries off at first)

one bizarre thing about these particular playlists is that, if they detect that you're not from their region, which i wasn't, they actually stop you from rewinding the playlist—it'll tell you that you're not allowed to do that—so if i fucked up while sifting through the songs and i had to go back, i had to refresh the entire page just to be able to do that

i did wind up completing the entire album, though, and the most remarkable thing about it is that i didn't have to download a single thing, which probably would've infected my computer with all kinds of malware and other fun stuff—nope, i was able to find streams of every single track, even if i had to look into the weirdest fucking places to do it

that's the power of the internet though, i suppose

oh and btw the album sucked tbh 5/10

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The Flood / Re: Verb, have you seen this film?
« on: April 25, 2019, 07:35:15 AM »
hmm, i remember sleeping on it because YMS gave it a 5/10 (not that he's an authority; we just look for similar things in movies), but since you thought to make a thread specifically to recommend me something, i suppose i can check it out, since the premise is definitely intriguing

it's currently finals week atm though, so i'll be busy all weekend + i'm seeing endgame on sunday, so i'll need a minute

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The Flood / Re: 1995 albums
« on: April 24, 2019, 08:56:21 PM »
how far are you willing to go to listen to an album that isn't freely available on any streaming service and has no seeded torrents

turns out, i'm willing to go pretty fucking far

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the only good looking mechas in anime aren't even mechas

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The Flood / Re: Rewatching Avatar
« on: April 22, 2019, 09:39:31 PM »
azula being a cunt is justified given that she's a villain

what makes her a lame character is her tendency to be sue-ish

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