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Serious / Re: Why abortion should be legal
« on: December 07, 2016, 05:37:37 PM »
oh btw highfive for returning after leaving, all the cool kids did that and by that I mean me and you.
Wait, you're not a newfag?
It's Cadenza.

Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
I've also learned that maths isn't the only way to see the world. But having a formal framework to refer to does help a lot.

And don't be naive, all of western thought is based on the interplay between Plato's forms and Aristotle's empiricism. Most people only structure their thoughts based on "Well I know this guy, and this event happened to me, therefore X", which is strictly empirical. Meanwhile I've spent considerable time studying the historical development of mathematical thought, which is almost exclusively the study of platonic forms of a specific kind. What you're probably not aware of is that at higher levels mathematics largely becomes a study of making analogies (isomorphisms, homeomorphisms, various other morphisms), and being able to apply techniques learned in one discipline to a different discipline.

So I stand by my words, I have learned to see and think about the world in a way completely different to most non-mathematicians. You pretty much cannot comprehend most physical concepts on any useful level without having some mathematical prowess, and we both know that most people suck at maths. I've earned the right to be smug about my achievements.

Really, the interplay between intuition about a given subject, and a rigorous explanation, is at the core of most people's thoughts, just tucked away subconsciously. Mathematics is about teasing out the exact thought process for any given field of study, and making tangible to work with. For instance, we all have an intuitive idea about distances, angles, volumes, because it's an evolutionary requirement for us to survive. Mathematics allows us to translate this intuition into co-ordinate systems, linear transformations, spatial sets, numerical measurements; and then it goes further and allows us to extend that thinking to higher dimensional spaces, or to relax certain underlying assumptions about the geometry of space, and create new models of physical space, both for theoretical purposes (see general relativity, based off of the work of Riemann on geometry), or practical purposes (see any flight map and how it uses spherical geometry to plot it's course over a map).

It's easy to assume I'm stupid if you don't know what I'm talking about, but that's okay, 'cause It doesn't actually make me stupid.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 07, 2016, 05:28:25 PM »
But wait


If you look closer
Refer back to the FBI document, that's no joke a coded symbol for pedophiles that the FBI recognises as such. Again, it's circumstantial and doesn't prove anything on it's own, but there's enough circumstantial evidence to justify an official investigation at this point. And if we remember Jeffery Epstein, and now the UK soccer teams, child sex trafficking is a likely possibility.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 07, 2016, 05:26:10 PM »
I've listed eight fucking points, major accomplishments that he's done. Instead of responding to those, you've just tried to come up with snarky "gotcha" quotes and act smug over your own misunderstanding.

Do you enjoy being a pathological liar? do you get a kick out of being dishonest about everything I say? Respond to what I've said or don't say anything at all. How many times do I have to repeat this before you listen?

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Serious / Re: Why abortion should be legal
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:10:46 AM »
oh btw highfive for returning after leaving, all the cool kids did that and by that I mean me and you.

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Serious / Re: Why abortion should be legal
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:09:51 AM »
>Come to the thread
>Thread is arguing about the inherent value of men over women as opposed to abortion rights

Wew

It's kinda like I missed this place but the exact opposite
Replace value with responsibility and you'll have an accurate summation of my post. The patriarchy didn't simultaneously appear in every agricultural society in history by accident, it serves it's purpose as a social extension of biology. Men love to lead, women love to follow strong men capable of leading. Now governments are universally run by a majority of men as a result of this, so it should naturally follow the same principle, men lead responsibly, and women get a nice life in return, everyone wins.

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Serious / Re: Trump secures $50 Billion investment towards 50,000 jobs
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:05:50 AM »
Reuters:

"Trump and Son did not give a timeline for the investment.

The lack of details on investment timetable also prompted doubts whether the promise of money and jobs will be met, as Sprint is slashing staff numbers to cut more than $2 billion in costs this year.

It was not immediately clear how much of SoftBank's investment had been disclosed before. Softbank said on Nov. 7, the day before the U.S. election, it planned to make future large-scale investments via the $100 billion tech fund, rather than on its own, to avoid growing already-bloated debt."

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that Trump's actual involvement was minimal and that this has been months in the making and would've happened either way.
Fair point, same as what Kupo brought up. I'm still going to say that this is consistent with Trump's recent deals with Carrier and Apple though, and indicative of things to come. It sends a good signal is what I'm saying and getting paid to say.

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Serious / Re: Mark Carney warns of growing disillusionment with capitalism
« on: December 07, 2016, 03:02:57 AM »
I'm curious, the right wing turns its back on capitalism, what's their alternative? A return to mercantilism?
A first approximation, would be capitalism without a need for INFINITE ENDLESS GROWTH. For instance, you don't need a housing market if everyone has a house, that they bought themselves of course, due to a nationwide focus on employing instead of outsourcing, among other things. The focus would shift from GDP and related metrics, to simple quality of life improvements. Whatever the replacement is, it should be based around systematically solving problems that have no reason for existing. For starters, there used to be a time when everyone could support a large family off of the man's income, so pick a system that accommodates that.

I mean, what's the point in a strong economy and material abundance if suicide and depression rates are high and you're on the brink of a race war? What's the point of a system that focus on profit if nobody has a stable family or is invovled in their community?

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Serious / Re: Hol up, *smacks lips* so you be sayin...
« on: December 07, 2016, 02:55:47 AM »
WE

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stop /pol/e smoking my thread

this is thread is a fine example of why nobody on 4chan likes /pol/
Because everyone overacts the second they realize /pol/ isn't some redneck caricature and can back up their claims when pressed unlike it's critics? yeah I'd be pissed if /pol/ kept proving me wrong too.

That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Nobody likes /pol/ because they'll take a thread about how the OP doesn't like the reddit tier humor of guardians of the galaxy and find some way to turn it into a thread about how the diversity is code for white genocide.
Nobody had to reply, but if you press me for details of course I'm going to respond, I've made it pretty clear I can back up what I say.

But hey, let's just ignore Hollywood's obvious biases, it's not like they tried to elect a war hawk or anything:
YouTube

People from this very franchise have an agenda that they push, and ignoring it for decades lead to the situation we're in now.

I mean you're really not disproving me when I say that this is why nobody likes /pol/. I'm not even talking about whether or not hollywood is trying to push white genocide or whatever, but here you are trying to make it about that.
The topic of discussion is provably being used to push an agenda, and they're making bank off of your ambivalence. You're free to pretend that nobody is trying to take advantage of you through entertainment, but I think it's a horrible thing that they're doing and you all deserve to know about it.

I mean there isn't any other interpretation here, you're ignoring people trying to manipulate you, and attacking people that remind you of this fact. Very Plato's cave.

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TFW I lived 30 miles from him.

YouTube


YouTube

Oh yes, I love seeing his excitement and joy fade away as he wastes his night.

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Serious / Re: Trump secures $50 Billion investment towards 50,000 jobs
« on: December 06, 2016, 08:45:13 PM »
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In an interview, Mr. Son said the money will be coming from a $100 billion investment fund that he began setting up earlier this year with Saudi Arabia’s sovereign-wealth fund and other potential partners.

...

When he acquired Sprint, Mr. Son’s initial plan was to merge the carrier with German-owned T-Mobile US Inc. to take on market leaders AT&T Inc. and Verizon Communications Inc., but he abandoned the effort after regulators signaled they would reject the plan. Some investors and analysts have said he could make another attempt after Mr. Trump’s election and when a new chairman is appointed to the Federal Communications Commission.

Mr. Son planned to tell Mr. Trump about what happened with T-Mobile, and how he had wanted to invest in the U.S. but the regulatory climate was too harsh so he invested outside the U.S. instead, the person familiar with the matter said.

Sounds more like this plan was already in place, and the announcement was reserved to take place after meeting with Trump to give him some of the credit, in hope that Trump's administration would create a more favorable climate for his T-Mobile deal.
That's pretty likely, although I don't recall clinton making a big deal out of cutting regulations.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 08:43:02 PM »
Look, I just gave you 8 examples of things he's already done without even being the actual President. You can keep pretending that all the slander you've heard about Trump is true but you're only going to get more and more detached from reality as his presidency progresses and you're consistently proven wrong about everything you've said.

It's your choice to give up on ever understanding what's going on, but don't keep bugging me about how you're out of touch with current events.

inb4 you give a snarky three word response, this is serious board and I'm giving you a serious reply, either address what i've said or just don't reply.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/goldman-sachs-power-white-house-231998
>Mnuchin
I'm not happy about him either, but he's been part of the Trump campaign for a long time now so this isn't news, it's a sleazy attempt at demoralizing Trump supporters "The candidate you supported is lying to you by hiring someone who was already on his payroll!"
>Bannon
First he's secretly hitler, now he's secretly a globalist banker? Get the fuck out of here, this is worse than the flip flop from the narrative of "You can't give Trump the nuclear codes, he'll start a war with Russia, I mean oops he's actually sucking putin's dick, you can't let Russia win the election"
>Scaramucci
Irrelevant since Pence is leading the transition team and this guy isn't slated for any cabinet positions, try again next time.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on Trump meeting Al Gore and Romney, If you gave your honest opinion on what you think Trump's doing, I'm sure you'll out yourself as being completely out of touch with what's going on.

Hint: This cozening up to Goldman is the same as Trump joking around with Obama, if you don't understand how deal making works then don't comment.

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Serious / Re: Trump secures $50 Billion investment towards 50,000 jobs
« on: December 06, 2016, 08:11:27 PM »
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though he didn’t provide details.
Let's not jump the gun, here.
It's not as if he's talking out his ass though:
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In addition to Kansas-based Sprint, which SoftBank acquired in 2013 for $22 billion, the company also led a $1 billion investment round last year in San Francisco-based online lender Social Finance Inc.
Trump did make a big point of cutting back regulations to open up business to more investments and job creation, and here we have him doing just that. Though I'll retract my applause until we see more details.

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stop /pol/e smoking my thread

this is thread is a fine example of why nobody on 4chan likes /pol/
Because everyone overacts the second they realize /pol/ isn't some redneck caricature and can back up their claims when pressed unlike it's critics? yeah I'd be pissed if /pol/ kept proving me wrong too.

That has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Nobody likes /pol/ because they'll take a thread about how the OP doesn't like the reddit tier humor of guardians of the galaxy and find some way to turn it into a thread about how the diversity is code for white genocide.
Nobody had to reply, but if you press me for details of course I'm going to respond, I've made it pretty clear I can back up what I say.

But hey, let's just ignore Hollywood's obvious biases, it's not like they tried to elect a war hawk or anything:
YouTube

People from this very franchise have an agenda that they push, and ignoring it for decades lead to the situation we're in now.

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Saw that the other day, he simply is incapable of making an unfunny video.
YouTube

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Serious / Trump secures $50 Billion investment towards 50,000 jobs
« on: December 06, 2016, 08:00:35 PM »
And all it took was 45 minutes of talking, are you convinced of his deal making prowess yet? Remeber he's still technically not your president, since he hasn't been inaugurated yet, so imagine what he'l be capable of 40 something days from now.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-softbank-pledges-to-invest-50-billion-in-u-s-1481053732

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Masayoshi Son, the brash billionaire who controls Sprint Corp., said Tuesday he would invest $50 billion in the U.S. and create 50,000 new jobs, following a 45-minute private meeting with President-elect Donald Trump.

The telecom mogul, who made his fortune in Japan with SoftBank Group Corp., announced his investment plans in the lobby of Trump Tower, though he didn’t provide details. Mr. Trump took credit for the investment, saying his November victory spurred SoftBank’s decision.

Mr. Son told reporters he planned to “invest into the new startup companies in the United States.” It would be difficult to create 50,000 jobs entirely by investing in startups, which generally employ few workers. Sprint employs about 30,000 people and has cut jobs to combat losses.
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In an interview, Mr. Son said the money will be coming from a $100 billion investment fund that he began setting up earlier this year with Saudi Arabia’s sovereign-wealth fund and other potential partners.

Mr. Son’s plan to pour $50 billion is massive compared with the total amount of capital in venture circles. Venture-capital firms had $163 billion available to invest in new deals as of June 2016, according to research firm Preqin.

In addition to startups, Mr. Son also has his sights on acquisitions as large as $30 billion, a person familiar with his thinking said.

In addition to Kansas-based Sprint, which SoftBank acquired in 2013 for $22 billion, the company also led a $1 billion investment round last year in San Francisco-based online lender Social Finance Inc.

When he acquired Sprint, Mr. Son’s initial plan was to merge the carrier with German-owned T-Mobile US Inc. to take on market leaders AT&T Inc. and Verizon Communications Inc., but he abandoned the effort after regulators signaled they would reject the plan. Some investors and analysts have said he could make another attempt after Mr. Trump’s election and when a new chairman is appointed to the Federal Communications Commission.

Mr. Son planned to tell Mr. Trump about what happened with T-Mobile, and how he had wanted to invest in the U.S. but the regulatory climate was too harsh so he invested outside the U.S. instead, the person familiar with the matter said.

On Tuesday, Mr. Son declined to comment about his current interest in T-Mobile.

The 59-year-old is known as an ambitious investor who bets on tech and telecom ventures. His company has a large stake in China’s Alibaba Group and most recently bought U.K. chip designer ARM Holdings PLC for $32 billion.

Mr. Son has a history of going straight to national leaders to talk business. In September he met South Korean President Park Geun-hye, and said he intends to invest about five trillion won (about $4.5 billion) in the country’s technology sector. He also has met Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and pledged to spend billions on the nation’s tech startups and renewable energy projects.

With the new $100 billion fund—dubbed the SoftBank Vision Fund—Mr. Son plans to spend heavily in fields including the so-called Internet of Things, artificial intelligence, deep learning and robotics. He has said he wants to become the Warren Buffett of the tech industry.

SoftBank plans to invest at least $25 billion during the next five years in the fund, while Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund may contribute an additional $45 billion over the same period as the fund’s lead partner. Other investors are still being finalized. Investments are expected to be made over the next five years.

AT&T Inc. Chief Executive Randall Stephenson also spoke positively of the economic benefits of a Trump presidency Tuesday, largely because of lower taxes and less government oversight. He expressed hope that “a more moderate approach to some of these regulations is in the making under a Trump administration.”

Mr. Stephenson said the U.S. is the “highest tax country in the developed world” and that capital investment, as a percentage of gross domestic product, is at its lowest level since World War II.

“If we achieve any kind of meaningful corporate tax reform I am quite convinced that it is going to change this trajectory in terms of capital investment,” he said at an UBS AG conference in New York. He added that the company’s business plans for 2017 are incorporating scenarios for economics growth to be higher than expected, compared with recent years where the focus was on underperformance.

“I can’t remember the last time I did an upside sensitivity in a business plan, but we are doing an upside sensitivity right now,” he said.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 04:55:53 PM »
Look, I just gave you 8 examples of things he's already done without even being the actual President. You can keep pretending that all the slander you've heard about Trump is true but you're only going to get more and more detached from reality as his presidency progresses and you're consistently proven wrong about everything you've said.

It's your choice to give up on ever understanding what's going on, but don't keep bugging me about how you're out of touch with current events.

inb4 you give a snarky three word response, this is serious board and I'm giving you a serious reply, either address what i've said or just don't reply.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 03:22:45 PM »
Politicians are fucking trash. We need to burn our governments down and start over.
If only there was an anti-establishment candidate who would run for office on a campaign of doing exactly that...
By getting in bed with Goldman Sachs and good old boy conservatives?

Dumbass
Do you really think you can negotiate these guys into giving up their power without doing something nice for them in return? I'd hardly call what he's doing "getting in bed" with them given that he's extended olive branches to literally everyone outside of the media.
Nice mental gymnastics.

Trump isn't anti establishment. He acted like he was so hey could get votes, but he IS the establishment. The so called "elite".
"I can't into politics"
You said it yourself, he's not Hitler, not even close. Half his power comes from the fact that both the Senate and House are majority republicans, he HAS to work with them, and he has to for the time being work with anyone else.

We'll see how much he's done by the end of 2018 with the mid term elections, and we'll know for sure if he's done his job after 8 years are up and we know who his successor is. Or did you actually think he'd undo decades od corruption before even being inaugurated?
I didn't think he'd do anything. Unlike you I wasn't fooled by Trump, or Bernie.
He killed the TPP 4 days fater the election, killed the TTIP a little bit after, has already ended all tensions and escalations with Russia, has both Carrier staying in the states and Apple planning on returning home. He's also got both Canada and Mexico ready to renege NAFTA, gotten Duterte to stop swearing, and already has plans for building the wall.

Given that his opposition to the TPP was what initially sold me on him ,I'm incredibly impressed by how much he's already done, and he's not even the President yet. Don't lie to yourself, he's already making America great.

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Sheeplover69
Now that's a good one, makes it a bitch to respond to tho.
you were saying
I might make that my christmas name since I fucking love parodies of xxxXXxxXUsErNsAmExxXxxx

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 03:14:08 PM »
Politicians are fucking trash. We need to burn our governments down and start over.
If only there was an anti-establishment candidate who would run for office on a campaign of doing exactly that...
By getting in bed with Goldman Sachs and good old boy conservatives?

Dumbass
Do you really think you can negotiate these guys into giving up their power without doing something nice for them in return? I'd hardly call what he's doing "getting in bed" with them given that he's extended olive branches to literally everyone outside of the media.
Nice mental gymnastics.

Trump isn't anti establishment. He acted like he was so hey could get votes, but he IS the establishment. The so called "elite".
"I can't into politics"
You said it yourself, he's not Hitler, not even close. Half his power comes from the fact that both the Senate and House are majority republicans, he HAS to work with them, and he has to for the time being work with anyone else.

We'll see how much he's done by the end of 2018 with the mid term elections, and we'll know for sure if he's done his job after 8 years are up and we know who his successor is. Or did you actually think he'd undo decades od corruption before even being inaugurated?

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 03:11:07 PM »
Oy vey.
shhhh, nobody's mentioned god's chosen people yet. You'll scare away Epstein if you start speaking Yiddish.

Your beliefs perplex me.
Sophistry is the best way to light up a forum. I haven't even posted the really conspiratorial stuff, like:

I haven't even posted the greatest new conspiracy of 2016

There's about as much evidence of Justin being Castro's son, as there is of Pizzagate, to put things in perspective.

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The Flood / Re: Fitness thread?
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:59:36 PM »
"I would normally laugh at you for having a high level of physical fitness"
The fuck are you on about OP?

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Sheeplover69
Now that's a good one, makes it a bitch to respond to tho.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:56:22 PM »
Oy vey.
shhhh, nobody's mentioned god's chosen people yet. You'll scare away Epstein if you start speaking Yiddish.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:52:51 PM »
Politicians are fucking trash. We need to burn our governments down and start over.
If only there was an anti-establishment candidate who would run for office on a campaign of doing exactly that...
By getting in bed with Goldman Sachs and good old boy conservatives?

Dumbass
Do you really think you can negotiate these guys into giving up their power without doing something nice for them in return? I'd hardly call what he's doing "getting in bed" with them given that he's extended olive branches to literally everyone outside of the media.

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Serious / Re: Mark Carney warns of growing disillusionment with capitalism
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:50:06 PM »
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Ahmed: Carney says get real, there are losers from free trade
wtf I love outsourcing, open borders, and Chinese undercutting of markets now.

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The Flood / Re: Fitness thread?
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:42:32 PM »
I personally use darebee For all my workout routines, there is a lot you can do with bodyweight exercises and stretching. I've made fantastic progress on just about every muscle group with minimal effort and no gym membership. I'd also recommend their recent posture program Since it's incredibly easy and also relevant to what you're doing.

There is nothing wrong with wanting a strong good looking body, impressing the thots is just a nice bonus. and abs/core muscles are needed for pretty much any physical activity since their purpose is to help transfer force between your lower and upper body, try digging/shoveling a bunch of dirt and notice how much you use your abs (you'll feel it)

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:36:36 PM »
Politicians are fucking trash. We need to burn our governments down and start over.
If only there was an anti-establishment candidate who would run for office on a campaign of doing exactly that...
Yeah.

Bernie Sanders.
And to everyone trying to defend the DNC, it was the DNC that rigged the primaries against Snaders and colluded with the media and debate moderators to give Clinton an edge. Did you all forget that Debbie wassermn shultz was fired over this? DNC is corrupt af.

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Serious / Re: Pizzagate
« on: December 06, 2016, 02:33:43 PM »
Politicians are fucking trash. We need to burn our governments down and start over.
If only there was an anti-establishment candidate who would run for office on a campaign of doing exactly that...

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