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« on: December 08, 2016, 01:34:01 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait.
Until then, you wuz kangz
When did I say anything about you or me? Why are you trying to make this a dick measuring contest? lmao
It's common knowledge that the basic stuff the Greeks did was improved upon vastly not mention newer and better methods were developed.
You keep acting as if you have expert knowledge on the subject while talking to someone that has spent years studying it. If you think the greeks sucked at maths,
then prove it
Until you do that, you are no different to blacks that claim the pharohs were just like them. Drop the Taqqiya.
Why the fuck are you so unnecessarily racist?
Islam isn't a race, but to give you a serious response, challenger is a pathological liar and every time we end up talking, he will always distort everything I say and get aught lying in every single post. I always call him out, quote exactly how he's lying, and in general show him to be a disgusting person.
Just above your post he says this:
And "al jabr" became "algebra" in the west, not "algorithm" LMAO. Despite me addressing this exact point anyway:
Muhhamed Al Khwarizmi, who's al-jabar was a treatise on algebraic methods, and if you notice, his name gave rise to the word algorithm. He's historically illiterate and can only respond with "I'm right because everything I say is a fact, please stop calling me a goat fucker, it offends my family's traditions"
So why are you quoting me correcting you as if you're right and I'm wrong?
Al jabr became algebra. This is literally kid shit.
Yes? I said as much, and mentioned the etymology of algorithm despite you trying to pull a zinger like you always do. Why do you try so hard to distort my words? I know you hate that I'm better than you, but you don't need to be so booty blasted about it.
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« on: December 08, 2016, 01:31:24 PM »
It might interest you to see that this problem is actually just a statement of the mean speed theorum.
Would you believe that I thought of exactly that a little while after posting?  IIRC it was work on a problem similar to this by Newton's mentor Isaac Barrow, that nudged Isaac along to his calculus, among other things.
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« on: December 08, 2016, 01:27:52 PM »
Why the fuck are you so unnecessarily racist?
He thinks that since many White men throughout history achieved great things in progressing Humanity he gets to bear some of that glory as he shares their race. Fucking lol
Retard, I've been highly enthusiastic about maths as it's own thing since before I was posting as Cadenza. I enjoy the subject for it's own sake and because I'm fucking great at it. In the post I made detailing some history, I talked about the major contributions of Indian mathematics. I like how you deliberately ignored that. In other posts here I've talked favorably about Jewish mathematicians as well, and not even obscure ones either, my favourite of all mathematicians that aren't Gauss or Riemann, is Cantor. Georg Cantor literally created the very foundations of all mathematics by himself just for the hell of it. So yeah, misinterpret my every word in order to feel smug about something you don't understand, it's cool, you're just like challenger then.
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« on: December 08, 2016, 01:22:49 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait.
Until then, you wuz kangz
When did I say anything about you or me? Why are you trying to make this a dick measuring contest? lmao
It's common knowledge that the basic stuff the Greeks did was improved upon vastly not mention newer and better methods were developed.
You keep acting as if you have expert knowledge on the subject while talking to someone that has spent years studying it. If you think the greeks sucked at maths,
then prove it
Until you do that, you are no different to blacks that claim the pharohs were just like them. Drop the Taqqiya.
Why the fuck are you so unnecessarily racist?
Islam isn't a race, but to give you a serious response, challenger is a pathological liar and every time we end up talking, he will always distort everything I say and get aught lying in every single post. I always call him out, quote exactly how he's lying, and in general show him to be a disgusting person. Just above your post he says this: And "al jabr" became "algebra" in the west, not "algorithm" LMAO. Despite me addressing this exact point anyway: Muhhamed Al Khwarizmi, who's al-jabar was a treatise on algebraic methods, and if you notice, his name gave rise to the word algorithm. He's historically illiterate and can only respond with "I'm right because everything I say is a fact, please stop calling me a goat fucker, it offends my family's traditions"
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« on: December 08, 2016, 01:18:58 PM »
Why does Challenger dislike Ancient Greece?
Because he hates that the idea of "Arabian mathematics were brilliant pioneers" is just a philosemetic lie used to fellate islam. Greek mathematics has such a legendary reputation because they did everything with such a level of finesse and precission that we still use them as the gold standard to which all other forms of mathematics are held to.
Challenger hates that I'm not as dumb as he is, and that he can't ever prove me wrong without simply lying about everything, which I always call him out on.
>Arab mathematics
>Islam
How retarded are you, dude? I'm talking about Iranian mathematicians, Islam has nothing to do with it.
Then why don't you, say I dunno, give a single fucking example? stop being a snake.
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« on: December 08, 2016, 01:17:52 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait.
Until then, you wuz kangz
When did I say anything about you or me? Why are you trying to make this a dick measuring contest? lmao
It's common knowledge that the basic stuff the Greeks did was improved upon vastly not mention newer and better methods were developed.
You keep acting as if you have expert knowledge on the subject while talking to someone that has spent years studying it. If you think the greeks sucked at maths,
then prove it
Until you do that, you are no different to blacks that claim the pharohs were just like them. Drop the Taqqiya.
Bro if you honestly think the Greeks were the peak of mathematics then just lol
I don't need to "prove" anything. This isn't a hypothesis. It's a fact. Just because that fact bothers you because it was scary brown people doesn't make it less of a fact.
Shitposting goes in the flood brah. Stop being a nigger.
I mean if anybody's being a "nigger" here, it's you. You constantly respond to people aggressively and try to make everything a competition.
Hopefully you use drugs or you have some sort of mental illness, because this just isn't normal behavior.
Just back up your claims, it should be easy to explain the flaws with the greeks, you do have the intelligence to do so right?
...It isn't a claim. We have improved upon the basics of the Greeks, Chinese, Babylonians, everybody and gotten to new levels.
Babylonian mathematics PREDATES Greek mathematics, you fucking retard. You are a pathological liar.
...so does Chinese mathematics. That was my point, genius.
No it wasn't, you said they improved on the greeks, but that's not temporally possible since greeks came after them. Why do you lie so much?
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« on: December 08, 2016, 02:29:23 AM »
it exists
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« on: December 08, 2016, 02:25:37 AM »
 Notice the greater similarity our modern/medieval numerals have to the hindu ones, than they have with the arabic ones. Your beloved desert was transfer station, not much more.
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« on: December 08, 2016, 02:19:27 AM »
"Haha stupid dumb sand niggers sucked at math" - he says, using arabic numerals to reinforce his points
Reading comprehension is not your strongest point is it? It's up to challenger to prove his argument. But since I like talking about maths, I'll give some greater detail. The common argument is to point to Muhhamed Al Khwarizmi, who's al-jabar was a treatise on algebraic methods, and if you notice, his name gave rise to the word algorithm. The other candidate to assert muslim scholarship is Omar Khayyam, who did some rigorous investigations into the foundations of Euclidean geometry. Now the argument from philosemites, is to point at either of these two men and say "look, we wuz mathematicians and shit", specifically the claim that al khwarizmi invented algebra and that omar was a pioneer of geometry. But this is false, because the Greek Diophantus wrote the first real treatise on algebra with his arithmetica which predates Khwarizimi by a lot. Meanwhile you can pick basically any greek geometer and you'll find that they all tackled Euclid's fifth. Personally I quite Like Apollonius for his work on conics, but I digress. As for arabic numerals, that's still a moot point since greeks were able to lay the foundations of numer based maths using geometry. I have a copy of Euclid's elements right here, and books 7 through 9 all deal exclusively with numerical concepts. Ever heard of prime numbers? you can thank Euclid for our understanding of them. Ah, but what about the specific hindu numerals we use today? well the concept of positional based counting systems technically predates even the greeks going back to egypt in some forms, but we can trace our modern form to two indians, Aryabhata and Brahmagupta, the later of course gave us the number zero, and all of it's basic properties. So what does that leave the arabian contribution to maths? well, they transferred the numerals "0123456789" from India to Europe, which is actually quite the feat of historical scholarship, many ancient works only survived by being translated to arabic and surviving the fall of rome, then later translated back to European languages. Ptolemy's greatest work is known more commonly by it's arabic name, the almagest, for instance. But it is an outright lie to claim that the Islamic world produced most of our mathematical knowledge, and that evil westerners covered it all up. Muslims were behind the intellectual ball and acted more like storage for knowledge than as a creator of it. So thanks cindy, for proving you don't know jack shit about maths or my views, and for giving me a chance to lecture you all with my superior knowledge, my dick can now be sucked.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 11:53:14 PM »
sep7 confirmed to be run by satanists
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« on: December 07, 2016, 11:49:02 PM »
So back on topic, wikipedia is already saying pizzagate is debunked claiming it's evil white spuremacist fake news, without aactually debunking any of the claims made, such as the post I made earlier. I think we can safely label wikipedia as a fake news outlet, since they've been wrong about current events since gamergate and continue to defend proven frauds.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 11:46:15 PM »
Are we talking ancient greeks, hellenistic greeks, what? Don't think it's fair to group them together considering that they're essentially two different cultures.
Ancient greeks, specifically contemporaries to Euclid, to name a few: Pythagoras Eratosthenes Eudoxus Ptolemy (the cartographer, not Alexander's man) Hippaius Archimedes And that's just off the top of my head, I know there are others worth mentioning but I've made my point.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:35:52 PM »
It's more that the industry is geared towards selling expensive blur rays, figs, and other merch. So anime, when it's not an advertisement for a novel, is going to have pandering to specific audiences more often than not. So to answer your question, most of the time yeah.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:26:58 PM »
Ah, before the edit train B had .5c, gimme a sec.
Yeah I accidentally had it backwards. Good solve.
Just as an addendum, the kinematic equations can be easily derived using calculus, it's just two integrals. But they can also be derived from simple algebra manipulations of v = d/t, averageV = (Vf + Vi)/2, a = v/t I know this because I asked my phsycis teachers several times to show me how to derive them and kept forgetting until I sat down and worked it out myself. interestingly, most sources only provide 4 kinematic equations:  and that's what we had to work with even at university, but a little combinatorics (Binomial coefficient, "5 choose 4") will show that there's a fifth equation:  You don't really need the fifth, but it's nice to know you can use mathematical techniques to improve your knowledge of maths.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:20:50 PM »
Why does Challenger dislike Ancient Greece?
Because he hates that the idea of "Arabian mathematics were brilliant pioneers" is just a philosemetic lie used to fellate islam. Greek mathematics has such a legendary reputation because they did everything with such a level of finesse and precission that we still use them as the gold standard to which all other forms of mathematics are held to. Challenger hates that I'm not as dumb as he is, and that he can't ever prove me wrong without simply lying about everything, which I always call him out on.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:17:38 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait.
Until then, you wuz kangz
When did I say anything about you or me? Why are you trying to make this a dick measuring contest? lmao
It's common knowledge that the basic stuff the Greeks did was improved upon vastly not mention newer and better methods were developed.
You keep acting as if you have expert knowledge on the subject while talking to someone that has spent years studying it. If you think the greeks sucked at maths,
then prove it
Until you do that, you are no different to blacks that claim the pharohs were just like them. Drop the Taqqiya.
Bro if you honestly think the Greeks were the peak of mathematics then just lol
I don't need to "prove" anything. This isn't a hypothesis. It's a fact. Just because that fact bothers you because it was scary brown people doesn't make it less of a fact.
Shitposting goes in the flood brah. Stop being a nigger.
I mean if anybody's being a "nigger" here, it's you. You constantly respond to people aggressively and try to make everything a competition.
Hopefully you use drugs or you have some sort of mental illness, because this just isn't normal behavior.
Just back up your claims, it should be easy to explain the flaws with the greeks, you do have the intelligence to do so right?
...It isn't a claim. We have improved upon the basics of the Greeks, Chinese, Babylonians, everybody and gotten to new levels.
Babylonian mathematics PREDATES Greek mathematics, you fucking retard. You are a pathological liar.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:14:10 PM »
That's a neat problem, they arrive at exactly the same time. We just use kinematic equations.
For train A, d = ct, so t = d/c
For train B, d = (Vi + Vf)*t/2, so t = 2d/(Vi + Vf), but Vi = 0, and Vf = 2c so, t = 2d/2c = d/c
Both trains take the same time to travel from station 1 to station 2, so they arrive at the same time.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:08:59 PM »
Ah, before the edit train B had .5c, gimme a sec.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:08:26 PM »
At all times train A is traveling faster than train B. Unless you left out some detail about train B leaving the station before train A, then this isn't even really a calculus problem, just a simple statement that "the faster train travels a greater distance over the same time".
Train A gets there first because train B never travels fast enough to overtake train A, regardless of the distance they travel.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 10:02:12 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait.
Until then, you wuz kangz
When did I say anything about you or me? Why are you trying to make this a dick measuring contest? lmao
It's common knowledge that the basic stuff the Greeks did was improved upon vastly not mention newer and better methods were developed.
You keep acting as if you have expert knowledge on the subject while talking to someone that has spent years studying it. If you think the greeks sucked at maths,
then prove it
Until you do that, you are no different to blacks that claim the pharohs were just like them. Drop the Taqqiya.
Bro if you honestly think the Greeks were the peak of mathematics then just lol
I don't need to "prove" anything. This isn't a hypothesis. It's a fact. Just because that fact bothers you because it was scary brown people doesn't make it less of a fact.
Shitposting goes in the flood brah. Stop being a nigger.
I mean if anybody's being a "nigger" here, it's you. You constantly respond to people aggressively and try to make everything a competition.
Hopefully you use drugs or you have some sort of mental illness, because this just isn't normal behavior.
Just back up your claims, it should be easy to explain the flaws with the greeks, you do have the intelligence to do so right?
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« on: December 07, 2016, 09:58:07 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait.
Until then, you wuz kangz
When did I say anything about you or me? Why are you trying to make this a dick measuring contest? lmao
It's common knowledge that the basic stuff the Greeks did was improved upon vastly not mention newer and better methods were developed.
You keep acting as if you have expert knowledge on the subject while talking to someone that has spent years studying it. If you think the greeks sucked at maths,
then prove it
Until you do that, you are no different to blacks that claim the pharohs were just like them. Drop the Taqqiya.
Bro if you honestly think the Greeks were the peak of mathematics then just lol
I don't need to "prove" anything. This isn't a hypothesis. It's a fact. Just because that fact bothers you because it was scary brown people doesn't make it less of a fact.
Shitposting goes in the flood brah. Stop being a nigger.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 09:55:16 PM »
It's also important to point out that mathematics really hasn't relied on a single source of discovery, and it's arguable that new discoveries and systems are inevitably discovered (for instance, we'd still have defined laws of motion if Isaac Newton had never been born). You can look at basically any mathematical invention and the controversy of its origin and see this.
Nobody's denying that, what challenger is saying is "greek wuz dumb as shit you hear me mang" without backing any of it up. If he actually had looked into it, he'd know that the exact same techniques pioneered by the greeks are still being used today, specific proofs regarding existence and uniquesness of mathematical structures in modern textbooks, use identical formalisms to those of the greeks. You cannot condemn the greeks without disregarding all of mathematics as we know it, but he's clearly talking out his ass.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 09:52:33 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait.
Until then, you wuz kangz
When did I say anything about you or me? Why are you trying to make this a dick measuring contest? lmao
It's common knowledge that the basic stuff the Greeks did was improved upon vastly not mention newer and better methods were developed.
You keep acting as if you have expert knowledge on the subject while talking to someone that has spent years studying it. If you think the greeks sucked at maths, then prove itUntil you do that, you are no different to blacks that claim the pharohs were just like them. Drop the Taqqiya.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 09:50:32 PM »
Isn't Farage planning to move to the US?
So much for follow through.
Depends on which country gives him the least death threats to him and his family, that is why he stepped down after Brexit after all.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 09:47:50 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger
You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
math*
When are you going to understand that the Greeks only had a very limited understanding of math?
Then please, detail to me how their methods were insufficient, lay out how other mathematicians have surpassed me, tell me in detail how your knowledge of mathematics surpasses my own. I'll wait. Until then, you wuz kangz
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« on: December 07, 2016, 06:29:58 PM »
Why is that river screaming?
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« on: December 07, 2016, 06:29:07 PM »
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« on: December 07, 2016, 06:26:29 PM »
*Benatar's asymmetry and hednositic treadmill*
Right now I really don't have much of a rebuttal to that, I've never actually heard about benatar so I'll have to mull this over for a bit. Though I find all the "empirical evidence" on the hednositic treadmill to be lacking. It's all taken from a time period that I would class as being in societal decline (think Spengler's style of decline). There also looks like there's an assumption that you cannot transform a bad/painful event or situation into something better. We can both agree that technological development has improved people's lives, but all tech results from attempting to solve a problem that made people's lives worse. I think Benatar's is a bit simplistic, but I really can't say more than that right now. Here's an axiom for you: If you're not responsible enough to take contraceptive measures, you're not responsible enough to be a parent. All the more reason to have an abortion. There's no such thing as an irresponsible abortion--even if you're aborting the child for irresponsible reasons, practically speaking, it's still a responsible decision. That's actually my point, that by the time we've gotten to talking about abortions, it's already too late. The focus, both on the discussion and practical measures, should be on why these people are even having sex in the first place, on what they're actually trying to achieve with their lives. What I'm pointing out is that society encourages people to end up in situations where "should I get an abortion" is a question they ask, that's the problem. Why subject an innocent child to 18+ years of squalor just because his or her parents made a stupid decision? That's the question you need to be asking yourself. It's not about the parents--it's about the child. As much as you seem to care about the welfare of these wantonly-produced babies, you don't seem to care very much about their welfare at all. It seems like you're more concerned with punishment, for some deranged reason. Parents should be held to the highest standard, and anything that leads to parenthood should be handled carefully. This includes educating would be parents on what they actually have to do to raise a kid, instead of the current sex ed program that just tells kids to fuck eahother and watch porn. And I'm concerned with holding people accountable for their actions, fucking with people lives and damaging society is a serious issue that collapses countries, it should be punishable if only as deterrence. People are going to do whatever kind of shit they want and nobody is going to stop them. Doesn't matter what the law says not to do--they'll do it anyway because they don't know what's best for them. The best thing we can do is educate and teach people the risks associated with licentious behavior--and if that doesn't deter them, that's their own problem. Largely still my point, but have you ever considered what factors determine what someone wants? a large amount is genetic predisposition and how they're raised, but another significant factor is what media they consume and what peer pressures they're exposed to. You can effect both of these to a large degree. The bottom line is that promiscuity is not and should never be classified as a crime. It doesn't hurt anybody. You can argue that it hurts society, but I don't have much of a reason to care about society. It's already fucked and I think it deserves to be fucked further--especially after the election. With severe enough social disproval, it wouldn't need to be a crime. And I'd rather work to repair society than try my luck at a collapse. Sounds like a good deal to me. Though I'd prefer it if people would just come to grips with it on their own. See I asked that question because the concept is almost self contradictory. In order for it to have any real effect it needs to be widespread, but for it to be widespread in the gene pool it requires it's carriers to reproduce more than anyone else, but if they did that it defeats the point of anti-natalism. It's like a useless box, it defeats itself.  False. To be an anti-natalist, you essentially have to concede a bundle of other philosophical stances--namely that life sucks ass. Therefore, if you can find a harmless activity that you can do for fun just to prevent yourself from going insane or killing yourself, it's encouraged to do that thing. Sex happens to be one of those things. Humans need enjoyment and happiness in their lives, so to have safe, responsible, consensual, babyless sex with a significant other is encouraged.
That's the justification: Life sucks; do what you can to make it not suck (while taking care not to make it suck more for others). You know i'm not anti-fun right? you can't have kids without getting laid so I'm still encouraging that. What I'm discouraging is the equivalent of shooting up with heroin, and creating a culture around that. There's significantly more to a having a good life than getting your rocks off. Well, that's the thing--the only issue I have with life is that you're forced into it. If we could somehow ask our unborn children if they'd be okay with living in this shithole, I wouldn't have any issue with procreation whatsoever.
"Anti-natalists" are those individuals who would have given a hearty "fuck no" to that question, so logically speaking, I suppose I'd be perfectly okay with that. If all would-be anti-natalists were aborted, that is.
You can't verify something like that before someone is born, though, so it's kind of a moot point. I mean I get the principle you're working with, I just can't agree with it myself since it boils down to "we're annoyed that we can't do something that's inherently impossible". It just doesn't lead to anywhere, which is why I see it as trivial. It'd be a bit of an exaggeration, but I could build the same philosophy out of "I hate that 4 sided triangles don't exist, nobody should live in a world without 4 sided triangles", it lacks the moral side to it which I'm not trying to devalue (because that is a respectable point you make), but this silly version would lead to the same results, ending all life to put them out of the misery of not living in a world where contradictions can't exist. Is that what I'm doing? I can't force anything on anybody--I thought we were just having a conversation. We are, what I was saying is that your end game is ending all life because you find existence to be A Priori immoral. You've got a good argument but it still means rejecting everyone eases sense of morality and ending their lives over it. Likewise I reject your morality and highly encourage people to keep having children whether the kids in question want to or not. In that regard it's pretty similar. I mean, says you, right? I think it would be glorious, and as a lion, I'm not terribly concerned with the opinions of the sheep, if you catch my drift. I'm talking historically here,we have enough examples of collapses to study and simulate through other means. Living through one would be a change of pace but assuming people survive and rebuild, nothing would be gained from it. Broken window fallacy on a civilizational scale.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 05:55:44 PM »
I've listed eight fucking points, major accomplishments that he's done. Instead of responding to those, you've just tried to come up with snarky "gotcha" quotes and act smug over your own misunderstanding.
Do you enjoy being a pathological liar? do you get a kick out of being dishonest about everything I say? Respond to what I've said or don't say anything at all. How many times do I have to repeat this before you listen?
You're bringing things up that are irrelevant to me.
I never thought or said Trump was some sort of terrible dictator. I've always said that he's simply a bad person who is very greedy and power hungry, and that is a VERY bad mix.
There's nothing more to say here.
No you lying snake, you said I didn't think he'd do anything. Unlike you I wasn't fooled by Trump, or Bernie. To which I responded by showing you 8 things he's already done since winning the election. You always do this, you lie about what you've said even though you know I'll go back and find the exact quote and call you out on your bullshit. Then you make an irrelevant snarky comment and try to act superior, while never admitting that I always catch you trying to pull this shit. You are a pathological liar.
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« on: December 07, 2016, 05:39:24 PM »
Mr. "I've learned to see the world from a rigorous, mathematically logical perspective" (he actually unironically said this) Cadenza.
LOL
Holy shit that is Deci tier autism
"The greeks suck at maths, and also WE WUZ GEOMETERS AND SHEEIT" -challenger You really don't have any right to talk about mathematical concepts on any level. At some point you will have to admit that I know significantly more about my subjects than you do.
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