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Messages - Mat Cauthon
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3961
« on: April 29, 2015, 04:33:14 AM »
You have a point, but it's the job of the staff to see this place does well, some flames for a short while for the betterment of the site should be somthing they're ready to deal with.
We shouldn't be afraid of backlash from bnet, we're not an offsite, we're our own site now. Never implied that there'd by any backlash from B.net. What I'm talking about is within our own community. Like with the whole thing with S\ash.
I was basing that off what's been said to me by staff before, they were quite afraid of banning users early on in case we got a bad rep over on Bnet. Again, with Slash, he got banned for a fair reason, whether I think the length of the ban was warranted is another thing. The backlash there started because people got up in arms when there wasn't a reason for the ban forthcoming, but that was because what he did was to do with private information about another users that shouldn't be repeated. And the whole fuss kicked up to show off the shit users. So no large loss there, like you said yourself.
3962
« on: April 29, 2015, 04:24:02 AM »
For example, when it comes to problematic users, this is going back a few months, there was a user who a mod informed me should have gotten a ban for their actions, they were in fact breaking rules. However, because the rules the user was breaking weren't enforced much before, the mod said he couldn't ban the user because it would be unfair.
Unfair to enforce rules. And that user created a lot of drama and perpetuated a ton of bad blood amongst the community and still does.
That's exactly the type of drama that has driven many new members away.
Are you telling me that's acceptable when we're slowly fading?[/spoiler]
My concern is whether there are even any rules disallowing users to cause drama that even exist. If there aren't, I think that'd be a big problem. Cause if they were banned out of nowhere, that'd cause a lot of drama in itself. But if there were rules made which could warn/ban users for stirring up drama, then those users could be warned or banned without causing tons of controversy.
You have a point, but it's the job of the staff to see this place does well, some flames for a short while for the betterment of the site should be somthing they're ready to deal with. We shouldn't be afraid of backlash from bnet, we're not an offsite, we're our own site now. As for rules 5. You Have No Rights. Play Nice.
The forum staff reserves the right to remove you, and your content, from the forums for any reason, without warning. This was agreed upon registration to the site.
Like, look at S\ash's ban. That ban was somewhat arbitrary, yet the forum was clogged up with spam for hours and 4 users ended up being banned because of the ensuing chaos.
And the spam was halted, the result was noted by a number of members I talked to as a front page clear of bullshit and for the first time in a while, a page full of threads worth discussion. Hell, that was noted by mods too. You can't tell me that's a bad effect for a short chimpout by shitposters.
3963
« on: April 29, 2015, 04:13:11 AM »
No thanks.
3964
« on: April 29, 2015, 04:12:02 AM »
Considering Sep7 isn't attached to anything, comparing new blood to the influx of desticles that plague b.net's forums would be a horrible comparison. The majority of new members that have joined, after the initial few months of Sep7's start up, were great, but left for their own reasons.
Can we even name 10 members who aren't from the B.net community though? Hell, I'd be really freaking shocked if there were that many.
And Sep7agon is an analogy to my first option rather than second.
Off the top of my head no, but we have had members come in from other forums, always good people too.
How do they even find this place?!
Nuka made a thread on the Warfarme forums that drew in a couple of people. Also some members came here from Bungie offsites. Only a few came here from elsewhere, like people convincing friends to join up etc.
3965
« on: April 29, 2015, 04:09:55 AM »
We're talking about members being dissuaded from coming here and leaving, it doesn't matter if they stand out or not because they leave before they really become active.
Gives yet more legitimacy to my earlier suggestion that nearly all of the active members here came from B.net.
Hardly a big claim, that's our main trawling ground for new users. And given our culture, it's not a surprising thing. Look at the users that make the most threads, most of those threads are shitposts.
You can't call that a small amount and that's only from a tiny number of users.
Talking about shitposting however, you weren't here for it, but new rules limiting it were introduced, so take that into account when you're looking at the amount of them currently. And even then there's still a large number.
Realistically, the shitposting is a small matter compared to the manner of some users and the drama.
Then what should be done about some of those users? Like.. Challenger, Deci, me(?) etc? They aren't exactly breaking any rules by causing drama. It would be unjust to remove them based on that alone. And banning any of them would cause a lot more drama.
I'll not name names when I talk about users that genuinely need to go. But considering certain users have contributed to many other users ceasing to come and stay here because of their drama, that's a big problem that has contributed to the decline we're seeing. Only a few would need to be banned for this site to see improvement, but the damage has already been done. Spoiler For example, when it comes to problematic users, this is going back a few months, there was a user who a mod informed me should have gotten a ban for their actions, they were in fact breaking rules. However, because the rules the user was breaking weren't enforced much before, the mod said he couldn't ban the user because it would be unfair.
Unfair to enforce rules. And that user created a lot of drama and perpetuated a ton of bad blood amongst the community and still does.
That's exactly the type of drama that has driven many new members away.
Are you telling me that's acceptable when we're slowly fading?
3966
« on: April 29, 2015, 03:19:13 AM »
What do you mean notable?
How can a new user become notable?
You know exactly what I mean. I'm talking about well-known faces around here. Like Charlie, Elegiac, or Vien.
We're talking about members being dissuaded from coming here and leaving, it doesn't matter if they stand out or not because they leave before they really become active. Shitposting in threads is fine, but people come here, see a load of threads with nothing to discuss and realise they can go to more active forums if they want that sort of thing.
You're right that they don't harm the community, but they act as a buffer to new people looking for worth in this site when determining to stay or not.
Shitpost threads still make up a vast minority of threads.
Look at the users that make the most threads, most of those threads are shitposts. You can't call that a small amount and that's only from a tiny number of users. Talking about shitposting however, you weren't here for it, but new rules limiting it were introduced, so take that into account when you're looking at the amount of them currently. And even then there's still a large number. Realistically, the shitposting is a small matter compared to the manner of some users and the drama.
3967
« on: April 29, 2015, 03:09:39 AM »
This isn't locked, why?
3968
« on: April 29, 2015, 03:05:49 AM »
>Unironically buying a CoD
3969
« on: April 29, 2015, 03:04:21 AM »
I'd rather it not die, but the main reason for the drop in activity is mainly the fault of the staff, for not getting rid of problem members.
The most quoted reason for people not staying is "drama", most of which was entirely avoidable with the sacrifice of about 3 users.
The next thing quoted is that this place is just shitposting, while not that avoidable, it's quite easy to stem the tide.
Hell, we've seen what happens when a couple of shitposters get banned, the quality of the forum increase. Not massively, but any increase is an improvement.
So yeah, I'd rather see us get new blood than die from stagnation, but things need to change a little before we can actually grow.
And which notable members left because of shitposting?
What do you mean notable? How can a new user become notable? Better question: Why would somebody leave because of occasional shitposting?
Holy fucking lol, nothing about the shitposting here is "occasional". Making shitpost threads that is. I can get it with shitpost responses, but shitpost threads don't really harm the community.
Shitposting in threads is fine, but people come here, see a load of threads with nothing to discuss and realise they can go to more active forums if they want that sort of thing. You're right that they don't harm the community, but they act as a buffer to new people looking for worth in this site when determining to stay or not.
3970
« on: April 29, 2015, 01:54:50 AM »
I'd rather it not die, but the main reason for the drop in activity is mainly the fault of the staff, for not getting rid of problem members.
The most quoted reason for people not staying is "drama", most of which was entirely avoidable with the sacrifice of about 3 users.
The next thing quoted is that this place is just shitposting, while not that avoidable, it's quite easy to stem the tide.
Hell, we've seen what happens when a couple of shitposters get banned, the quality of the forum increase. Not massively, but any increase is an improvement.
So yeah, I'd rather see us get new blood than die from stagnation, but things need to change a little before we can actually grow.
3971
« on: April 29, 2015, 01:32:16 AM »
"I wasted weeks on this, just to get "artistic" bollocks shoved in my face"
3972
« on: April 29, 2015, 12:39:10 AM »
Americans.
lol
3973
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:49:45 PM »
Nick Fury uses White Guilt!
It's Super Effective!
The X-Men have Whited Out!
3974
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:37:40 PM »
nuffin
One blueberry muffin please
Spoiler u wot 
3975
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:29:56 PM »
nuffin
3976
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:21:14 PM »
Um... What?
holy shit was I high typing this?
Fix'd
lol, it's ok now. OT: Well, if they were my most desired person, I guess the only answer I can give is that I'd treasure them.
3977
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:17:48 PM »
Do I need to say "lolniggers"?
Because I just did.
3978
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:15:42 PM »
Um... What?
3979
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:08:29 PM »
#Reunclus
#Deinosevolvedform
# gaming
3980
« on: April 28, 2015, 05:06:06 PM »
Lots, considering Bungie ignored them and shit on established lore when they had a perfect chance to tell their story, then when they're finally seen in a game they die?
That'd be some bullshit.
3981
« on: April 28, 2015, 04:43:06 PM »
So whos Kelly, and how is she worth the holy EVA helmet.
Kelly's the fastest Spartan 2.
And there's no reason for the helmet, they put it on her in a Halo anime and people thought it looked cool so it stuck.
Fastest?
Alright, favorite right there. She can keep wearing it.
Fastest as in she was clocked at at least 10kph (what is it they measure in in Halo, I think it's kilometres) over what the others could run. Faster if she pushes herself.
3982
« on: April 28, 2015, 04:40:12 PM »
So whos Kelly, and how is she worth the holy EVA helmet.
Kelly's the fastest Spartan 2. And there's no reason for the helmet, they put it on her in a Halo anime and people thought it looked cool so it stuck.
3983
« on: April 28, 2015, 04:31:30 PM »
Linda never needed more than what Mjolnir provided...
3984
« on: April 28, 2015, 03:25:24 PM »
Will it prevent you from posting?
3985
« on: April 28, 2015, 02:06:11 PM »
Shush you.
Go fap to some traps.
how did you know i was going to fap?
like literally in 5 minutes when i go shower
3986
« on: April 28, 2015, 02:00:00 PM »
Shush you.
Go fap to some traps.
3987
« on: April 28, 2015, 01:34:44 PM »
 Thats for the mobile game. Don't scare me like that.
They gots to cater to our delicate western sensibilities apparently.
or maybe they realize that sexualization is disgusting and exploitative
You do realize we're talking about Japan...right?
You've just used a trigger word.
3988
« on: April 28, 2015, 01:23:40 PM »
Well at least they see people had a problem with the controls, instead of From the direction lead by other developers going "lol it r suposed 2 b hrad git gud".
3989
« on: April 28, 2015, 01:11:19 PM »
I wonder when the mods will cop on and realise they need to lock these threads once an answer is gotten?
3990
« on: April 28, 2015, 08:31:17 AM »
Locke's team
GO GO POWER RANGERS That robot in the background is obviously their Megazord.
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