Quote from: Twisted Innards on August 06, 2017, 10:32:57 PM

Lol Johnny was never meant to be taken seriously, even in 4.

um

yes. yes we are.

he has his own action sequence at the end in which he explains why he's been having shit fits the entire series.

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even even fucking marries Meryl at the end

we are very much intended to suddenly take him seriously


do me a favour and replay this game. then come back to me.

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Him getting the spotlight felt more like the creators acknowledging that he exists and a cool moment for fans. Not to mention he's been in pretty much all of them.

how it is a "cool moment" for the literal joke character of the series to somehow become the uber badass chiseled good-looking blond sharpshooter that marries the love interest

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The dialogue is terrible and you know it, or you just forgot how awful it's always been.

there are instances of bad dialogue in the series but it's consistently garbage in this one

pretty much every game since mgs3 has had bad dialogue, actually. luciana mentioned something about the cowriter leaving before peace walker. but i'm more willing to forgive peace walker because it's a much better game and it tells a much better story.

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I'm not understanding your reasoning behind raiden.

in short, his appearance confirms things from mgs2 that shouldn't have been confirmed (because the ambiguity of that game was part of the whole point), and his transformation into the cyborg ninja (more fanservice) is both out of place and unnecessary

One action scene and a reasoning behind him being a bumbling idiot doesn't all of a sudden mean we're supposed to take him seriously. He's been a mainstay of the series since the original and we're supposed to be attached to him. It may be a little fan servicey but the whole game was a love letter to fans of the series.

He's still a moron in the game and one scene where he's on point can't undo all the things he's done through the series. Him marrying Maryl is the only thing that bothered me, but only because Maryl is supposed to be a serious character.



Mgs1 had atrocious dialogue that sounded like it was written by an uncaring anime dub team, 2 was slightly better but was consistently ridiculous in subject matter. The rest are just boring over all and spew "ideals" every other second. It's always been bad, 4 is just over the top to a pretty large degree.




If you could spoiler what specifically you mean that would be great. As for him becoming cyborg ninja, it fits his character. He was constantly trying to outdo everyone and surpass solid snake. After getting his ass kicked by vamp the next logical step is to attain a power greater than his.

Ambiguity is great and it is a bit of a shame how a lot of questions were answered that should have been left alone but it doesn't kill it for me.

Quote from: Twisted Innards on August 02, 2017, 06:42:18 PM

Did you just throw Johnny in there. The guy who basically just shit the whole series?

Yeah, because we're supposed to start taking him seriously all of a sudden? It's insulting that they expect that.

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And the dialogue has always been anime-y. Raiden turning into a cyborg was weird but but not out of character, plus it was fucking sick.

1. The dialogue was never this bad.
2. Him being in the game at all is my problem. It negates the end of MGS2.

MGS4 has a lot of strengths but you aren't bringing up any of them.

Lol Johnny was never meant to be taken seriously, even in 4. Him getting the spotlight felt more like the creators acknowledging that he exists and a cool moment for fans. Not to mention he's been in pretty much all of them.


The dialogue is terrible and you know it, or you just forgot how awful it's always been.


I'm not understanding your reasoning behind raiden.

Why would I celebrate the day I was forced into this shit reality?

The early 2000s was a truly strange time for movies

But so many hits

Web shooters are best Spiderman. Can you imagine how fucking gross it would be to produce spider webs that shoot from your wrists?

Ben Affleck is the man, but this was something else

In all honesty I haven't visited this thread at all in between now and the last post I made in it. If I wasn't browsing this place out of boredom I wouldn't have had a clue you were posting nonsense like this. Tell me, how am I unrecoverable if I have no idea there's a problem?

Quote from: 化粧室はどこですか//~ on August 03, 2017, 03:49:27 PM

How can Ian ever fucking recover from this thread

How will you recover

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Your use of color is 👌

Lol my dad made a comment about the noise my ex was making. That shit was awkward.

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You're not really one to talk with your 50 pictures in one spoiler

Considering the fact that pictures take nowhere near as long to load, yeah I am one to talk.

Your threads crash my phone browser and this thread doesn't though

Which is a shame because the pictures of abandoned places are cool but I only see them if I bother getting on my laptop to visit sep7

Lol get a better phone you poor fuck

It's an iPhone 5S

It crashes and reloads the page. It's not it's a phone problem, it's a putting 50 HD photos in one spoiler problem.

My phone loads them no problem

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Quote from: Twisted Innards on August 02, 2017, 01:49:56 PM

I'm not calling anyone specific from this forum out. Hell, most people I played with was nice and just trying to have fun it seemed.
But it's obvious these kind of elitist, toxic, immature, bully mentality players are in this game and if I can't be in denial of that through a BL, then this game I once moved on from will not be worth it. I'm saying that because I believe I'm speaking for others who also are casual and just want their fun without people who call them out and kick them for doing exactly what's really the one Right thing to do on a game; To have fun.
You hardcores have got it wrong. You use and abuse a game which was designed to simply be fun.
You turn it into something else from your elitist mentality.
And you also abuse other players.
You do so because you are so tiny. You're probably unemployed, working a job you're not happy with or something, so you take it out by trolling on games. You're the lowest kind of people there is.
I know what I'm talking about because I've been there myself.
I quickly moved on from that though, because I'm an intelligent and strong person.
You're not.

Are you talking to the man living inside your arm?

LIQUUUUUIIIIIIIIIID

Quote from: Twisted Innards on August 02, 2017, 01:40:15 PM

I never got the hate for mgs4, it was metal gear at its most outrageous.

It's story lacked the subtelty and character consistency the previous games had. as well as being pretty insulting to what had already been established. on top of that, there wasn't too much game to be played beyond the first 2 acts, and what's there beyond act 2 isn't very fun.

Really the only insulting thing was that fucking bike chase. Mgs has always had cheese, and I really don't understand why people were insulted by it.

As for the subtlety and character consistency, only Maryl(?) really changed. They didn't really treat her character with the respect I felt she deserved but I was hoping she'd get with snake in the end.

Old snake makes sense and I thought it was a fitting end to his story, especially with how it plays out with ocelot.



Granted it's been a few years since I've played it, but I fucking loved it when it released.

Fucking man cannons and porno mags babiiieeee

Ahh the Lumina, what a shit vehicle.