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The Flood / Re: May I request a custom title?
« on: August 03, 2014, 01:58:27 PM »
I'll most likely turn on custom titles for the more high-ranking members once I fix the trust system, so there's your answer.

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The Flood / Re: Fatcow Host Reviews
« on: August 03, 2014, 01:55:21 PM »
Are the DDoS attacks ever going to be fixed/prevented?
We're already doing better with the new host, but I've contacted the new one about what happened on Fatcow and we'll see what can be done, if anything.

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News / Re: We have a new host now
« on: August 03, 2014, 01:17:32 PM »
Who's our new host? How does it compare to our previous host?
1&1. I'm kind of wary of my choice now that I'm not in a panic because our site is down. If the service sucks it's possible we may change over to BlueHost before the month is through, but I'll let you guys know so you don't panic when the site goes down for maintenance if it happens.

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The Flood / Re: Cinnamon Toast vs Toast
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:40:24 AM »
This is more difficult than I imagined.

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The Flood / Re: How to destroy #offtopic
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:24:22 AM »
Look, Bungie created this possibility. When Max, Icy and I were muted for complaining that we were harassed. When they allowed Paul to be called a Pedo till this day, and when they turn a blind eye to cyber-bullying. Had DeeJ done his job, this wouldn't be an option.

The guy who pulled the DDoS is bragging that he did it. They aren't doing shit, even when its a felony.

All I am doing is letting everyone know this is an option if shit gets way out of hand.
Who?
I am also interested in hearing who was bragging. Even a username is helpful.

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The Flood / Re: How to destroy #offtopic
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:11:33 AM »
The only instance I would say is in self defense. Say if we keep getting DDoS'd.
It's likely this is just one guy or a few of them doing this. Going after the entire off topic wouldn't help things here; it would likely just piss more people off.

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News / Re: Meet the new Mod
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:08:21 AM »
MEET THE NEW MOD

SAME AS THE OLD MOD
You can't be a mod, Corsair. Go back to your coin forum. 8)

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The Flood / Re: Best Poptart flavor?
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:06:51 AM »

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The Flood / Re: So, we are still under attack?
« on: August 03, 2014, 11:03:57 AM »
Wouldn't it be Microsoft the name "the flood?" And if it came to that we could just drop the "the" or add in another "o"or something.
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floood

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The Flood / Re: Can we discuss raiding density here?
« on: August 03, 2014, 10:58:50 AM »
ProBoards wouldn't allow it. Are we allowed to discuss raiding density?
I understand the need to vent your frustration, but you should keep your raiding plans away from these forums; especially the public areas like this that anyone can read.

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The Flood / Fatcow Host Reviews
« on: August 03, 2014, 01:58:41 AM »
I took a look at the BBB page for Fatcow (EIG owns them), our previous host, and found some horrible shit. Apparently they suck as a host all by themselves without a DDoS attack.

Check it.

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Septagon / Re: Blank screen when using my home IP.
« on: August 03, 2014, 01:23:03 AM »
I'm unable to access the site using my home IP, and have had to use a proxy to even view the site... am I banned or is this a glitch?
By the time you read this your ISP should have found our new IP. You good?

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The Flood / Re: So are we still doing that radio.dj or whatever thing?
« on: August 03, 2014, 01:11:26 AM »
Does anybody else have an issue when logging in with a G+ account? It'll start to load for me and then return to the main page.
I believe they were doing some sort of maintenance.

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Serious / Re: Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) & You
« on: August 03, 2014, 01:01:03 AM »
"For example Andrew "Weev" Auernheimer was sentenced to 41 months in prison for exposing a security hole on AT&T's servers that publicly revealed iPad users' email addresses. The court ruled that the "loss" to AT&T in his case was $73,000"

Lolwot? "Hey guys don't use this companies internet because at the moment all Ipad users emails are publicly shown" = 41 months in prison. Did I just read that right or did he "show" them their error by hacking/etc. them?

Actually, yes
Sounds like a less-crazy version of Live Free or Die Hard.

This law was the leading factor in Aaron Swartz's suicide, he was looking down the barrel of this law and couldn't handle it. Federal conviction rate is 90+%
Good news for if we can actually catch this guy/guys/whatever. I would pay cash money to sit in on his trial for attacking this forum.

Actually, I would probably have to show up anyway :o.

pls stream as Rose gets a three year prison sentence.
And then have the gif as an obligatory avatar for everyone.

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Serious / Re: Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) & You
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:57:52 AM »
"For example Andrew "Weev" Auernheimer was sentenced to 41 months in prison for exposing a security hole on AT&T's servers that publicly revealed iPad users' email addresses. The court ruled that the "loss" to AT&T in his case was $73,000"

Lolwot? "Hey guys don't use this companies internet because at the moment all Ipad users emails are publicly shown" = 41 months in prison. Did I just read that right or did he "show" them their error by hacking/etc. them?

Actually, yes
Sounds like a less-crazy version of Live Free or Die Hard.

This law was the leading factor in Aaron Swartz's suicide, he was looking down the barrel of this law and couldn't handle it. Federal conviction rate is 90+%
Good news for if we can actually catch this guy/guys/whatever. I would pay cash money to sit in on his trial for attacking this forum.

Actually, I would probably have to show up anyway :o.

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The Flood / Re: Do you think Zombies are realistic?
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:55:35 AM »
Just want to point out that the doctors in the zombie movies never thought it was possible, either...

And armies in war films have little understanding of strategy, and main characters in action films have magic character shields that protect them from environmental damage etc.
Well, of course. The main character can't die; how else would they save the day?

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The Flood / Re: Do you think Zombies are realistic?
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:52:52 AM »
Just want to point out that the doctors in the zombie movies never thought it was possible, either...

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Serious / Re: Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) & You
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:51:32 AM »
"For example Andrew "Weev" Auernheimer was sentenced to 41 months in prison for exposing a security hole on AT&T's servers that publicly revealed iPad users' email addresses. The court ruled that the "loss" to AT&T in his case was $73,000"

Lolwot? "Hey guys don't use this companies internet because at the moment all Ipad users emails are publicly shown" = 41 months in prison. Did I just read that right or did he "show" them their error by hacking/etc. them?

Actually, yes
Sounds like a less-crazy version of Live Free or Die Hard.

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Septagon / Re: An idea
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:12:02 AM »
Just sitting around and sorting through some coins and thought we could use a backup site in case this place gets attacked again. I know there's one on Bnet but the blinding effects of the site and crap layout makes it a drag to go on.

I do have experience with a forum service similar to proboards but it's called Forumotion and I can make a simple site with one or two forums so it can be a simple bunker if shit happens. Only thing is that it would have to be more discreet and that means no links out in the public, only way is through PM to users you know for certain won't turn around and give it to Rose or Comms.
I think there might be one of those already. I can give you the link if you'd like.

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News / Re: We have a new host now
« on: August 03, 2014, 12:10:15 AM »
I won't be posting the logs publicly, but if anyone would like to take a look at them they are welcome to them. PM me.

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The Flood / Re: Thank fuck I was having withdrawal symptoms.
« on: August 02, 2014, 08:02:04 PM »


I am a merciful god.

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News / Re: We have a new host now
« on: August 02, 2014, 08:01:01 PM »

Does their ISP not have records of the traffic coming from that individual? Even if they do not have programs in place to stop it and nobody is at work at the time, surely they would have records of it once they got back to work the next day or something. I thought that shit was illegal as well.
It's far more complicated than that. People download programs, like Tor, and utilize other functions such as multiple proxies and IP addresses. It's why finding people who commit DoS attacks makes it nearly impossible. It's kinda like a criminal moving around constantly to different safehouses and using lots of false identities to hide

Okay, but as Comms is our No1 suspect right now, if Cheat gets the list can't we just see if his IP matches any of them?
I can compare the list of IPs (assuming I get them) to any that have logged in here, but that's all I can really do to see if it was him.

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The Flood / Re: Munchhausen by Proxy
« on: August 02, 2014, 07:39:03 PM »
It's probably only for a few more hours. The host was only applied early this morning.

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News / Re: We have a new host now
« on: August 02, 2014, 07:22:03 PM »
I'll request a list from the old host. Maybe they'll give it to me.

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News / Re: We have a new host now
« on: August 02, 2014, 06:57:19 PM »
They kicked up because we were hit by a DDoS attack that wasn't even our fault?
I know. The host's name was Fatcow if you want to show them your appreciation.

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The Flood / Re: Thank fuck I was having withdrawal symptoms.
« on: August 02, 2014, 06:43:18 PM »
*sigh*

Everything's okay now.
I basically got like three hours of sleep because I had to fix everything and get the database uploaded. This DDoS shit is a nightmare.



who did it?
I'll post what I know in the thread in Updates. Wait for it.

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The Flood / Re: Thank fuck I was having withdrawal symptoms.
« on: August 02, 2014, 06:39:31 PM »
*sigh*

Everything's okay now.
I basically got like three hours of sleep because I had to fix everything and get the database uploaded. This DDoS shit is a nightmare.

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News / We have a new host now
« on: August 02, 2014, 06:32:39 PM »
In case you didn't know, yesterday night the forum was hit by a major DDoS attack that crashed the server and took the host's website offline for an hour. They've basically told me they cannot tell who was behind the attack because it involved many different IP addresses and the combined requests were several gigabytes worth. They kicked the site off of their server and we now have a new one.

But since we have a new server, some stuff might still fuck up. Namely, remember that error that would pop up in the beginning (max_questions)? That is now once again possible, so I'm trying to work with this host in order to fix it before it happens.

We can also get hit by this attack again, if the jerk is so inclined. I will be looking into things I can do to guard against it, but it's very difficult to stop an attack of the magnitude we experienced.

More on this stuff as I know more.

EDIT: your avatar is now broken if you uploaded one. You need to re-upload it.

What we know:
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Your site is under a major DDoS attack. We have null routed the domain to stop the traffic effecting our servers. We will have to ask you to find alternate hosting for your domain as our platform can no longer support you.
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The traffic was coming from a multitude of sources, it's most likely that some form of botnet was responsible. At it's peak we were receiving ~10gb of inbound traffic to the domain. Unfortunately in extreme cases like this we do have to advise that a site cannot be hosted on our shared platform in order to ensure services remain reliable for other users.

UPDATE: Some strange shit is afoot. As most of you probably know, Crouton and I have been working on figuring out who was able to DDoS the site and knock us right out of our host. Well... It gets kind of sketchy.

I requested the UDP Traffic logs from Fatcow to see what the fuck was going on, and was transferred to several people before they basically said they didn't keep track of them. Read below (unedited):

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Hello,

Thank you for contacting support.

I have escalated your issue to our Technical Specialist to provide UDP traffic logs for your host . You should be hearing from them within 12-24 hours.

If you have any questions in the meantime, please let us know and be sure to refer to the link http://www.fatcow.com/member/sconsole for the quickest service.

Sincerely,

Shravya U
Customer Support
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Hello,

I will be handing this ticket over to one of our System Administrators to check if we can provide UDP traffic logs . We cannot assure that we can provide the logs. We will update the ticket regarding this soon. You should be hearing from them within 12-24 hours. If you have any questions in the meantime, please let us know and be sure to refer to the link http://www.fatcow.com/member/sconsole for the quickest service.

Sincerely,

Prithviraj K
Technical Specialist
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Hello,

Im sorry to inform you that, unfortunately we are not logging UDP traffic for customer site.

For any further assistance in need, please update Support Console.

Sincerely,

Kalandar M
Technical Specialist

If that's not strange enough, I did a little searching for reviews on the hosting service and came across this:
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We are a Internet Radio station that was running on a dedicated server at another hosting company. We moved to FATCOW to save money thinking we would get the same or better service. After only 2 days on their servers, they shut off our account and website without ANY warning. They claimed we caused a DDOS attack and thus they suspended our account. They would not allow us to talk with Tier 3 support or explain what happened.

They simply told us to go away. We moved our site to a better know hosting/registrar.

I am a Cisco Engineer with over 25 years in this business. I have never been treated in this manner.

STAY AWAY FROM FATCOW!!!

It's pretty much word for word what happened to us, save for the dedicated server. So... I'm not so sure what happened anymore. It's true that when we switched hosts, someone was trying to bring the site down (and mostly failing, since it only slowed everything down), but it definitely wasn't of the same caliber as the first attack.

Very fucking strange.

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Gaming / Re: Noscope Simulator?
« on: August 01, 2014, 04:20:36 PM »

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The Flood / MOVED: Destiny just got a tad more interesting
« on: August 01, 2014, 03:53:51 PM »
This topic has been moved to Gaming.

http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=254.0

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