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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
Most 360 games towards the end required (and still do) installations of some kind. Obviously Wii U doesn't need the installs because the games aren't as large and in many cases are less bloated.


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
Most 360 games towards the end required (and still do) installations of some kind. Obviously Wii U doesn't need the installs because the games aren't as large and in many cases are less bloated.
Yeah, i'm certain that if you tried to run the MCC on the Wii U it'd either take an install or LOTS of discs, probably both being as the Wii U doesn't use blu-ray either


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
Most 360 games towards the end required (and still do) installations of some kind. Obviously Wii U doesn't need the installs because the games aren't as large and in many cases are less bloated.
Yeah, i'm certain that if you tried to run the MCC on the Wii U it'd either take an install or LOTS of discs, probably both being as the Wii U doesn't use blu-ray either
Without a doubt. Excluding Game Freak, though, Nintendo has a much better track record for releasing polished and bloatless games *cough*ubisoft*cough*.


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
Most 360 games towards the end required (and still do) installations of some kind. Obviously Wii U doesn't need the installs because the games aren't as large and in many cases are less bloated.
Yeah, i'm certain that if you tried to run the MCC on the Wii U it'd either take an install or LOTS of discs, probably both being as the Wii U doesn't use blu-ray either
Without a doubt. Excluding Game Freak, though, Nintendo has a much better track record for releasing polished and bloatless games *cough*ubisoft*cough*.
I think it's not Ubi as a whole, it can't be a coincidence that the it's the same studio within Ubisoft that is responsible for both the  Unity and Watch Dogs cock-ups. You have to remember how good Child of Light and especially how fantastic Far Cry 4 is. Ubisoft Montreal need to get their shit together quick


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Well, Ubisoft has also decided to fuck Nintendo on nearly every game release they've had, between going back on the initial statement of Rayman Legends and the Deus Ex Director's Cut being Wii U exclusives (the latter essentially being the Armored Edition of BamHam City) to massively delaying the release of the Wii U copy of Watch_Dogs and just generally making it obvious they want every experience with Nintendo to end in failure. If Nintendo is just being shit to their third party publishers again I wouldn't be surprised, but I haven't heard much to support that outside of EA getting butt blasted for not letting them using their Origin shit on the Nintendo Network.

tl;dr Ubisoft can be petty in general outside of Montreal's cock ups.


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
The difference with the PS4 is that you can start playing within minutes of putting the disc in.


 
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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.
But do you have any evidence to your claim?


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A flower which blooms on the battlefield

Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.
But do you have any evidence to your claim?
PC gaming


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.

Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.
But do you have any evidence to your claim?
PC gaming
I just checked now and farcry 4 was only 21gb for the ps4. it really does seem like developers being lazy. if ubisoft can get that down, surely the others can too. especially with the amount of content in farcry 4


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.
But do you have any evidence to your claim?
PC gaming


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.
But do you have any evidence to your claim?
PC gaming

It's valid proof


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.
But do you have any evidence to your claim?
PC gaming
I just checked now and farcry 4 was only 21gb for the ps4. it really does seem like developers being lazy. if ubisoft can get that down, surely the others can too. especially with the amount of content in farcry 4


I wouldn't say lazy. As a console goes on, the developer get more efficient at using space. It happened before; look at Halo 3 to Halo Reach in terms of graphical quality and sheer amount of content on one disc (I would use halo 4 but tht had a second disc)

It just takes time. I'm not too surprised at MCC considering it is 4 games in one.

Oh yeah, MCC just finishe downloading. I've completed every campaign in the time it took and messed around on forge. Made some cool technical stuff on H2A. I really hope BF4 doesn't take >1 day.


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Installations, means no more discs not working and it avoids having to use multiple discs, the next generation of blu-rays will have far better storage capacity which will cut install sizes, so it'll get better
why can't it copy it from the disc to the hard drive?  Having to download everything when it's available from a disc sucks. Fucking glad I didn't get an Xbox
Because not everything is on the disc, and the PS4 has massive installs too you know. And don't bring up PC, as it's all digital anyways and the Wii U doesn't count
but that's just not acceptable. Having to download 30gb+ really isn't an option for some. Now that's not so much of a problem for me but I don't have korean internet that would still take quite a while. the most I've had to download on pc was around 23 gb for farcry 4.
Well not everything can fit on the disc.

This is current gen bruh where games will get up to 50gbs you should have expected huge patches and downloads.
The size of the games are stupidly big because developers are being lazy now that both consoles use Blu-Ray
Ps3 used bluray and many games got up to 50gbs
You're reinforcing what I just said.
But do you have any evidence to your claim?
PC gaming
I just checked now and farcry 4 was only 21gb for the ps4. it really does seem like developers being lazy. if ubisoft can get that down, surely the others can too. especially with the amount of content in farcry 4


I wouldn't say lazy. As a console goes on, the developer get more efficient at using space. It happened before; look at Halo 3 to Halo Reach in terms of graphical quality and sheer amount of content on one disc (I would use halo 4 but tht had a second disc)

It just takes time. I'm not too surprised at MCC considering it is 4 games in one.

Oh yeah, MCC just finishe downloading. I've completed every campaign in the time it took and messed around on forge. Made some cool technical stuff on H2A. I really hope BF4 doesn't take >1 day.
It's laziness.
They know how to compress data. It's just that now they don't have to do it because there's space to work with.


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Yeah it downloads most of it off the internet. That's absolutely retarded.