"I'll Keep Coming." | Death Stranding, A Kojima Productions Thread

 
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I meant the story :P

And the mechanics of Halo 1 pissed me off a lot too, but that's just age. I'm aware how good it was at the time.

But to follow up what you said, how would he even do Metal Gear Solid 1 with Big Boss around? That seems... odd. Unless you meant Metal Gear 1/2 to bring it all around.


 
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And the mechanics of Halo 1 pissed me off a lot too, but that's just age. I'm aware how good it was at the time.

It's still the best, even in today's standard. But I don't wanna talk about it.

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But to follow up what you said, how would he even do Metal Gear Solid 1 with Big Boss around? That seems... odd. Unless you meant Metal Gear 1/2 to bring it all around.

That's what I'm saying... we'll never know what he meant. I'm guessing that the changes he would make with MG1/2 rectons would be so drastic that it could be plausible for BB to be the protag of MGS1-4.

I would have really liked that. It's pretty obvious he likes Boss more than Solid.


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In Kojima's new, Big Boss-oriented Metal Gear, Big Boss would be cloned from Big Boss, who would go on to get killed by Big Boss in the warrior nation of Outer Boss after a battle with Gray Boss. After a brief retirement, Big Boss would then get called into action again to fight Big Boss in Shadow Boss island. Eventually he'd duel Big Bosselot atop the ruins of Big Haven.


 
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In Kojima's new, Big Boss-oriented Metal Gear, Big Boss would be cloned from Big Boss, who would go on to get killed by Big Boss in the warrior nation of Outer Boss after a battle with Gray Boss. After a brief retirement, Big Boss would then get called into action again to fight Big Boss in Shadow Boss island. Eventually he'd duel Big Bosselot atop the ruins of Big Haven.

died

"Bosselot"


 
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I dunno, I like Big Boss's fall from grace and sanity that they had in Zanzibar Land. He was always an anti-hero, and as time went on he became a shadow of his former self.


 
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I dunno, I like Big Boss's fall from grace and sanity that they had in Zanzibar Land. He was always an anti-hero, and as time went on he became a shadow of his former self.

None of that would have changed at all.


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She's a seventy-year-old woman with the body of a thirty-year-old woman.


 
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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
MGS1-era Solid Snake is still my favorite character.


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I'm hoping Ishmael turns out to be Frank Jaeger, myself.


 
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MGS 1/2 Solid Snake is great and intellectual as heck. I loved him.

MGS4 Snake was a shadow of his former self, slowly dying off. Rightfully so, but yeah. It is obvious as someone else said, that Big Boss is Kojima's fav.


 
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MGS1-era Solid Snake is still my favorite character.

My favourite incarnation of Snake, for sure.


 
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I'm hoping Ishmael turns out to be Frank Jaeger, myself.

Meh... I'm on the side of the fence where Ishmael is a figment of BB's imagination.

Notice how he never helps Snake up or help him walk or anything. The most we see him do is things Snake could do on his own.


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Replace Snake with Big Boss in a reboot? No thanks.


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I'm hoping Ishmael turns out to be Frank Jaeger, myself.

Meh... I'm on the side of the fence where Ishmael is a figment of BB's imagination.

Notice how he never helps Snake up or help him walk or anything. The most we see him do is things Snake could do on his own.

I know there's more evidence of him being a hallucination, I just think it'd be cool to see Boss's surrogate son fight alongside him. His bandages could be explained by Frank's removed ears and nose in Mosambique.

And as an aside, Ishmael is apparently real enough to drive a car at 2:11. Doesn't override all the other evidence, but it's something I noticed.


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but Halo CE is the best Halo to date

almost objectively

the story sucks but if you think the MP sucks

that's cuz you suck
dated clunky gameplay
shitty physics
terrible weapon balancing
bare bones story
bad level design

i mean, i like the game, but every halo after ce literally does everything better


 
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So let's talk about Ocelot. I'm confused about that fucker. I mean, I know his loyalty was always to Big Boss because he admired him like Big Boss did to The Boss, but uhh

what's the deal with his Liquid thing? I know he used hallucination, nanomachines (son), and various other things to actually bring about Liquid, but what about in MGS4? Doesn't he lose the hand? I have a hard time believing two personalities formed into one fucker. I also read this.

Spoiler

And that honestly makes a lot more sense.


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In MGS2 he really was possessed by Liquid's ghost. By MGS4 he replaced Liquid's limb with a cybernetic one, then hypnotized himself into acting like Liquid to keep up the act. By the end of the game, during his fight with Solid, Ocelot's original personality started breaking through, going from entirely Liquid, to Liquid Ocelot, to just Ocelot again.

Personally I liked it better when he was actually possessed, since, y'know, his dad is a medium and it's more interesting to have Liquid actually come back to battle his brother. But, no, it's just Ocelot pulling shit and ruining an interesting plot point. Also, if his impersonation was correct, Liquid was a complete manchild.


 
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I haven't got into the series fully yet
stop ;-;


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>I have never played a second of any Metal Gear

Let me have it guys.


 
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And as an aside, Ishmael is apparently real enough to drive a car at 2:11. Doesn't override all the other evidence, but it's something I noticed.

Notice how Snake could do that on his own if he wanted to, though.


 
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]In MGS2 he really was possessed by Liquid's ghost. By MGS4 he replaced Liquid's limb with a cybernetic one, then hypnotized himself into acting like Liquid to keep up the act. By the end of the game, during his fight with Solid, Ocelot's original personality started breaking through, going from entirely Liquid, to Liquid Ocelot, to just Ocelot again.

Personally I liked it better when he was actually possessed, since, y'know, his dad is a medium and it's more interesting to have Liquid actually come back to battle his brother. But, no, it's just Ocelot pulling shit and ruining an interesting plot point. Also, if his impersonation was correct, Liquid was a complete manchild.
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I haven't got into the series fully yet
stop ;-;

Well then, you'd best shove yourself good and deep into the moist, supple lore of Metal Gear before you read any more spoilers.


 
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I haven't got into the series fully yet
stop ;-;

Well then, you'd best shove yourself good and deep into the moist, supple lore of Metal Gear before you read any more spoilers.


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
Id be excited as fuck for V but i cant play it .-.


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And as an aside, Ishmael is apparently real enough to drive a car at 2:11. Doesn't override all the other evidence, but it's something I noticed.

Notice how Snake could do that on his own if he wanted to, though.

...From the other side of the car? I suppose he could just be imagining himself in the passenger side, but that's a bit more than just injecting himself with something or lifting himself up.