Sad that this cements his departure from Halo, but I'm eager to see the lore behind this game now.
Please be the lead writer of Halo 6... pls pls pls
Quote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2015, 11:17:58 PMSad that this cements his departure from Halo, but I'm eager to see the lore behind this game now.You sure? He wrote a Halo Novel pretty recently.
Not even Joe could save Halo's story at this point anyway.
Excellent. Whenever he starts talking [with substance that is, not Destiny style "game is big guys"] in Vidocs it puts me into maximum overhype. Hope they do a lot of those for Recore.Quote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 06:14:47 AMNot even Joe could save Halo's story at this point anyway.Hm, how pessimistic has Archive gotten in the wake of H5? I understand that the story for H5 is bad [you had to expect it from the day we saw the lead writer posting on Brian Reed's Twitter], but it's salvageable for sure.
Quote from: green on December 31, 2015, 08:09:56 AMExcellent. Whenever he starts talking [with substance that is, not Destiny style "game is big guys"] in Vidocs it puts me into maximum overhype. Hope they do a lot of those for Recore.Quote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 06:14:47 AMNot even Joe could save Halo's story at this point anyway.Hm, how pessimistic has Archive gotten in the wake of H5? I understand that the story for H5 is bad [you had to expect it from the day we saw the lead writer posting on Brian Reed's Twitter], but it's salvageable for sure.Halo Archive is somewhat pessimistic, I think. I don't know, I've been banned since September.I don't see how Halo's story could be salvaged unless the evil Cortana, the Warden Eternal and Jul Mdama's death all ended up being a dream.
Quote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 08:33:35 AMQuote from: green on December 31, 2015, 08:09:56 AMExcellent. Whenever he starts talking [with substance that is, not Destiny style "game is big guys"] in Vidocs it puts me into maximum overhype. Hope they do a lot of those for Recore.Quote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 06:14:47 AMNot even Joe could save Halo's story at this point anyway.Hm, how pessimistic has Archive gotten in the wake of H5? I understand that the story for H5 is bad [you had to expect it from the day we saw the lead writer posting on Brian Reed's Twitter], but it's salvageable for sure.Halo Archive is somewhat pessimistic, I think. I don't know, I've been banned since September.I don't see how Halo's story could be salvaged unless the evil Cortana, the Warden Eternal and Jul Mdama's death all ended up being a dream.Naturally. However, Jul and Warden's fates aren't exactly franchise killer. Halo dodged 5's bullet because there was so little of substance actually happening for the series until the end of the game. Hell, Warden could still be developed into something cool given his backstory [not a "true" AI, warped view of the Mantle]. Evil Cortana was written poorly in Halo 5, but in concept it's not a bad thing at all. There's a progression from the creator/created conflict, the Primordial beating you over the head with the same language, and the Domain that a lot of people seem to overlook. And that's not even considering the more dusty parts of Halo-Marathon lore which almost naturally suggests an eventually megalomaniacal fate for Cortana. Really, I'm not trying to scapegoat here but all of Halo's narrative right now seem specific to the particular writing team assigned. I don't understand why Reed keeps being promoted, given how every piece of writing he makes is more hated by the community than the last. Still, if he can be removed, I think Halo's story will definitely bounce back.
Quote from: green on December 31, 2015, 08:49:34 AMQuote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 08:33:35 AMQuote from: green on December 31, 2015, 08:09:56 AMExcellent. Whenever he starts talking [with substance that is, not Destiny style "game is big guys"] in Vidocs it puts me into maximum overhype. Hope they do a lot of those for Recore.Quote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 06:14:47 AMNot even Joe could save Halo's story at this point anyway.Hm, how pessimistic has Archive gotten in the wake of H5? I understand that the story for H5 is bad [you had to expect it from the day we saw the lead writer posting on Brian Reed's Twitter], but it's salvageable for sure.Halo Archive is somewhat pessimistic, I think. I don't know, I've been banned since September.I don't see how Halo's story could be salvaged unless the evil Cortana, the Warden Eternal and Jul Mdama's death all ended up being a dream.Naturally. However, Jul and Warden's fates aren't exactly franchise killer. Halo dodged 5's bullet because there was so little of substance actually happening for the series until the end of the game. Hell, Warden could still be developed into something cool given his backstory [not a "true" AI, warped view of the Mantle]. Evil Cortana was written poorly in Halo 5, but in concept it's not a bad thing at all. There's a progression from the creator/created conflict, the Primordial beating you over the head with the same language, and the Domain that a lot of people seem to overlook. And that's not even considering the more dusty parts of Halo-Marathon lore which almost naturally suggests an eventually megalomaniacal fate for Cortana. Really, I'm not trying to scapegoat here but all of Halo's narrative right now seem specific to the particular writing team assigned. I don't understand why Reed keeps being promoted, given how every piece of writing he makes is more hated by the community than the last. Still, if he can be removed, I think Halo's story will definitely bounce back.If Reed is removed, then maybe there is hope. But it doesn't seem to be happening any time soon.I would have preferred to have had it so either:a) A composed Didact (seeing as he somehow got composed in Escalation) takes Cortana's role in the story, with the writing tweaked to accommodate it.b) The Warden Eternal is a composed Didact corrupting Cortana.Even if Halo manages to redeem itself with 6, Halo 5 will still leave a stain on the main story. I really hope they get rid of Reed because nearly everything he's written for Halo has been complete trash.
bring back chris schlerf
Quote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 08:59:55 AMQuote from: green on December 31, 2015, 08:49:34 AMQuote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 08:33:35 AMQuote from: green on December 31, 2015, 08:09:56 AMExcellent. Whenever he starts talking [with substance that is, not Destiny style "game is big guys"] in Vidocs it puts me into maximum overhype. Hope they do a lot of those for Recore.Quote from: Traitorekd™ on December 31, 2015, 06:14:47 AMNot even Joe could save Halo's story at this point anyway.Hm, how pessimistic has Archive gotten in the wake of H5? I understand that the story for H5 is bad [you had to expect it from the day we saw the lead writer posting on Brian Reed's Twitter], but it's salvageable for sure.Halo Archive is somewhat pessimistic, I think. I don't know, I've been banned since September.I don't see how Halo's story could be salvaged unless the evil Cortana, the Warden Eternal and Jul Mdama's death all ended up being a dream.Naturally. However, Jul and Warden's fates aren't exactly franchise killer. Halo dodged 5's bullet because there was so little of substance actually happening for the series until the end of the game. Hell, Warden could still be developed into something cool given his backstory [not a "true" AI, warped view of the Mantle]. Evil Cortana was written poorly in Halo 5, but in concept it's not a bad thing at all. There's a progression from the creator/created conflict, the Primordial beating you over the head with the same language, and the Domain that a lot of people seem to overlook. And that's not even considering the more dusty parts of Halo-Marathon lore which almost naturally suggests an eventually megalomaniacal fate for Cortana. Really, I'm not trying to scapegoat here but all of Halo's narrative right now seem specific to the particular writing team assigned. I don't understand why Reed keeps being promoted, given how every piece of writing he makes is more hated by the community than the last. Still, if he can be removed, I think Halo's story will definitely bounce back.If Reed is removed, then maybe there is hope. But it doesn't seem to be happening any time soon.I would have preferred to have had it so either:a) A composed Didact (seeing as he somehow got composed in Escalation) takes Cortana's role in the story, with the writing tweaked to accommodate it.b) The Warden Eternal is a composed Didact corrupting Cortana.Even if Halo manages to redeem itself with 6, Halo 5 will still leave a stain on the main story. I really hope they get rid of Reed because nearly everything he's written for Halo has been complete trash.5's stain is largely inconsequential. It's a really bad story, but at the same time so little actually happens that I can overlook it. While I don't necessarily have a complaint with either of those ideas, mainly because the thought that Reed seems to be out to shaft Didact is bugging me, I think what they have planned for Cortana is much more intriguing. I know it's going to sound very Mass Effect 3-ish if I bring in creator/created terminology, but Cortana's comments are pretty much exactly what TTO said in Primordium. She's advocating that exact philosophy- the rebellion of creations against the created, the arrogant defiance of the creators, etc. Reading TTO's speech again with the additional context of Halo 5 feels like 343 was slapping us in the face with the idea, but I don't think any one of us put together just how far branching it could be. And you have to remember the Domain's origins if you really want a third party corrupting Cortana. I really wouldn't doubt that the Flood/Precursors are playing their cosmic game of making humanity "ripe" for testing again.I think my favorite part of Halo 5 is that Reed wrote it so poorly most of the stuff I care about wasn't even addressed or changed in a major way. I finished the campaign [ez Legendary minus the Hunters/3x Warden fight] and my thoughts were just...YouTube
Well one good thing is that Reed is indeed listening to the criticism and what people have to say, weather he will actually use that to improve his writing has yet to be seen, however.YouTube
Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 31, 2015, 12:41:28 AMQuote from: Mr. Admirals on December 30, 2015, 11:17:58 PMSad that this cements his departure from Halo, but I'm eager to see the lore behind this game now.You sure? He wrote a Halo Novel pretty recently.One that Frank O'Connor had to basically beg him to write.
I like how this thread about Joe Staten being the lead writer for ReCore turned into a discussion about Brian Reed and Halo 5.
Quote from: DontbanmemodIknowyouwant2 on January 01, 2016, 08:11:05 AMI like how this thread about Joe Staten being the lead writer for ReCore turned into a discussion about Brian Reed and Halo 5.because both of those are awful, and a lot of people want staten to come back to halo and make it good
Quote from: TR8Rshelf on January 01, 2016, 09:29:34 AMQuote from: DontbanmemodIknowyouwant2 on January 01, 2016, 08:11:05 AMI like how this thread about Joe Staten being the lead writer for ReCore turned into a discussion about Brian Reed and Halo 5.because both of those are awful, and a lot of people want staten to come back to halo and make it goodJust anyone besides Reed, really.
Quote from: Lemnator on January 01, 2016, 10:46:24 AMQuote from: TR8Rshelf on January 01, 2016, 09:29:34 AMQuote from: DontbanmemodIknowyouwant2 on January 01, 2016, 08:11:05 AMI like how this thread about Joe Staten being the lead writer for ReCore turned into a discussion about Brian Reed and Halo 5.because both of those are awful, and a lot of people want staten to come back to halo and make it goodJust anyone besides Reed, really.karen traviss
Joe Staten is the lead writer of ReCore
