Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures are from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. The pitcher below and some of the ones in the URL you can easily tell they are everyday people, like the ones you would see in a place like the US during that time period. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/
>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neurons
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:17:12 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on January 30, 2017, 04:13:01 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neurons So the middle east is not in the dark ages?Define 'dark ages'Religion as a way of life. Specifically following Quran to the letter. Stoning people to death with no fair trial, women are more like pets than people, apostasy = death.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on January 30, 2017, 04:13:01 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neurons So the middle east is not in the dark ages?Define 'dark ages'
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neurons So the middle east is not in the dark ages?
Quote from: Look into me eyes. on January 30, 2017, 04:30:46 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures is from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/That's pretty fascinating actually, amazing how Islam destroyed that country.
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures is from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsI'm confused as to why you keep saying this. Yes, people in rural Iran were more religious and the women would cover up more and wear burkas, but the huge difference being that they weren't forced to.Was the Shah a puppet and "dictator"? Sure, but literacy rates in rural areas were growing fast and so was the quality of life. People could make money in Iran, now they can't.
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 06:45:38 AMQuote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 04:51:29 AMQuote from: Look into me eyes. on January 30, 2017, 04:30:46 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures is from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/That's pretty fascinating actually, amazing how Islam destroyed that country.Lmao you're like a nigger, you've probably never read a book on Iranians or the Middle East and here you are posting absolutes in regard to societal trends. "absolutes" lol okay
Quote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 04:51:29 AMQuote from: Look into me eyes. on January 30, 2017, 04:30:46 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures is from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/That's pretty fascinating actually, amazing how Islam destroyed that country.Lmao you're like a nigger, you've probably never read a book on Iranians or the Middle East and here you are posting absolutes in regard to societal trends.
amazing how Islam destroyed that country
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 06:58:21 AMQuote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 06:49:48 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 06:45:38 AMQuote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 04:51:29 AMQuote from: Look into me eyes. on January 30, 2017, 04:30:46 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures is from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/That's pretty fascinating actually, amazing how Islam destroyed that country.Lmao you're like a nigger, you've probably never read a book on Iranians or the Middle East and here you are posting absolutes in regard to societal trends. "absolutes" lol okayQuoteamazing how Islam destroyed that countryThat's an absolute, you're claiming that Islam alone ruined any prospect of liberal thought taking hold and pushed the populace towards conservatism.I think you're taking the weight of my post too seriously.
Quote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 06:49:48 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 06:45:38 AMQuote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 04:51:29 AMQuote from: Look into me eyes. on January 30, 2017, 04:30:46 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures is from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/That's pretty fascinating actually, amazing how Islam destroyed that country.Lmao you're like a nigger, you've probably never read a book on Iranians or the Middle East and here you are posting absolutes in regard to societal trends. "absolutes" lol okayQuoteamazing how Islam destroyed that countryThat's an absolute, you're claiming that Islam alone ruined any prospect of liberal thought taking hold and pushed the populace towards conservatism.
I'm not even here to defend Islam I just get triggered that a bunch of people who know nothing about the region bar ChallengerX are using one event in the last 50 years to explain why the Middle East is so religious, it's always been religious.
Quote from: Look into me eyes. on January 30, 2017, 04:30:46 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neuronsNot everybody in those pictures are from the upper class, you just don't want to admit that the country turned into a shit hole due to Islam. The pitcher below and some of the ones in the URL you can easily tell they are everyday people, like the ones you would see in a place like the US during that time period. http://bowshrine.com/1970s-iran-before-the-islamic-revolution/>Using a picture of the Bin Laden familyThough this is Saudi Arabia which has also been under Islamic rule since forever thank you for proving my point, the Bin Laden family are pretty damn wealthy and in no way representative of the general populace of which you will find that no one dressed like this. >First photo literally looks like a bunch of university students>2nd is a bunch of dudes with a Mercedes>The rest are compolitan areas and what looks to be more like students. Iran on the other hand is much bigger than Tehran, less than 10 stills is and will never representative of country. I'm not arguing that Islam isn't the result my point is that these people were religious even before the revolution. Quote from: FatherlyNick on January 30, 2017, 04:22:02 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:17:12 AMQuote from: FatherlyNick on January 30, 2017, 04:13:01 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 04:08:28 AM>Judging countries by pictures of the upper classesReally fires my neurons So the middle east is not in the dark ages?Define 'dark ages'Religion as a way of life. Specifically following Quran to the letter. Stoning people to death with no fair trial, women are more like pets than people, apostasy = death.And in which Middle East countries does this actively take place in bar opposition held Syria and Saudi Arabia?
It actually happens in Europe and USA. Remember the night club shooting? Remember why we have 'Draw Muh Madman' day? Je suis Charlie? Truck attacks? What civilized people would justify these sort of actions with some religious book? It is what keeps them in the dark ages because it calls the rest of the world infidels.
Either way, Iranians are becoming more secular and even atheism is on the rise. The mullahs' days are numbered.
well yes you are very easy to trigger when it comes to mussie politics
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 07:13:52 AMQuote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 07:02:58 AMwell yes you are very easy to trigger when it comes to mussie politicsYou'll never be a manReally?
Quote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 07:02:58 AMwell yes you are very easy to trigger when it comes to mussie politicsYou'll never be a man
Quote from: eggsalad on January 29, 2017, 06:32:14 PMDefine "critical of Islam". I'd say I'm critical of Islam but most anti-Muslim dialogues seem to just be more about how much they hate Muslims rather than how they can work to mitigate the ideology.Probably because we're called Nazis then...
Define "critical of Islam". I'd say I'm critical of Islam but most anti-Muslim dialogues seem to just be more about how much they hate Muslims rather than how they can work to mitigate the ideology.
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 07:13:30 AMThanks to the same Mullahs no less who organised a country and government where wealth is invested a lot more proportionately and enabled scientific study to flourish.Dude are you serious? They don't even allow women to study alongside men. Everybody's fleeing Iran because it's becoming so impoverished. All they care about is getting nukes, they don't care about the sanctions that are destroying the Iranian economy.
Thanks to the same Mullahs no less who organised a country and government where wealth is invested a lot more proportionately and enabled scientific study to flourish.
Quote from: challengerX on January 30, 2017, 07:25:38 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 07:13:30 AMThanks to the same Mullahs no less who organised a country and government where wealth is invested a lot more proportionately and enabled scientific study to flourish.Dude are you serious? They don't even allow women to study alongside men. Everybody's fleeing Iran because it's becoming so impoverished. All they care about is getting nukes, they don't care about the sanctions that are destroying the Iranian economy.If gats wants to think that Islam is a religion of piece compatible with modern Western values, let him. Heck I bet he would even let his GF walk home alone if they ever went on holidays to the middle east. He would also let her wear a skirt and show as much skin as she wants while he drinks beer on the street during Ramadan. Maybe try to sell some Mohamed street art at a local market there too, see how that goes in the prosperous and tolerant Islam world. Don't forget to also tell everyone that you are Jewish - that helps.That would be a cool social experiment.
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 07:13:52 AMQuote from: boop the snoot on January 30, 2017, 07:02:58 AMwell yes you are very easy to trigger when it comes to mussie politicsYou'll never be a manand yet I'll always be a greater one than you, so what does that say about you? :')
Quote from: FatherlyNick on January 30, 2017, 07:36:22 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 30, 2017, 07:25:38 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 07:13:30 AMThanks to the same Mullahs no less who organised a country and government where wealth is invested a lot more proportionately and enabled scientific study to flourish.Dude are you serious? They don't even allow women to study alongside men. Everybody's fleeing Iran because it's becoming so impoverished. All they care about is getting nukes, they don't care about the sanctions that are destroying the Iranian economy.If gats wants to think that Islam is a religion of piece compatible with modern Western values, let him. Heck I bet he would even let his GF walk home alone if they ever went on holidays to the middle east. He would also let her wear a skirt and show as much skin as she wants while he drinks beer on the street during Ramadan. Maybe try to sell some Mohamed street art at a local market there too, see how that goes in the prosperous and tolerant Islam world. Don't forget to also tell everyone that you are Jewish - that helps.That would be a cool social experiment.If you think I'm defending Islam as a religion in this thread then your comprehension must be shit.
Quote from: FatherlyNick on January 30, 2017, 07:36:22 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 30, 2017, 07:25:38 AMQuote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 07:13:30 AMThanks to the same Mullahs no less who organised a country and government where wealth is invested a lot more proportionately and enabled scientific study to flourish.Dude are you serious? They don't even allow women to study alongside men. Everybody's fleeing Iran because it's becoming so impoverished. All they care about is getting nukes, they don't care about the sanctions that are destroying the Iranian economy.If gats wants to think that Islam is a religion of piece compatible with modern Western values, let him. Heck I bet he would even let his GF walk home alone if they ever went on holidays to the middle east. He would also let her wear a skirt and show as much skin as she wants while he drinks beer on the street during Ramadan. Maybe try to sell some Mohamed street art at a local market there too, see how that goes in the prosperous and tolerant Islam world. Don't forget to also tell everyone that you are Jewish - that helps.That would be a cool social experiment.>religion of pieceI don't need a Russian to talk to me about my country, thanks. Stick to getting assraped by Afghanis.
when your boners start failing like Charlie
And yet you made it sound like stoning is just a myth along with death penalty for leaving Islam.
It's actually pretty sad, the disgusting state of the Arab world today is largely the fault of the Zionists.
Quote from: gats on January 30, 2017, 08:26:14 AMThere's nothing more to be said.you get triggered because people supposedly don't understand what they're talking about when you have no idea what you're talking about yourself, I'd say there's plenty to be said
There's nothing more to be said.