Starting the atkins diet

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Skipping meals and the like won't help you lose weight, because not only do you risk running into starvation mode (where your body holds on to every little bit of fat it can get), but also the fact that starving yourself will make you eat more later to compensate.


 
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Skipping meals and the like won't help you lose weight, because not only do you risk running into starvation mode (where your body holds on to every little bit of fat it can get), but also the fact that starving yourself will make you eat more later to compensate.
that makes sense, I wish I would've known about that months ago tho

luckily that's not what atkins is


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Current weight and estimated BF%?

I do keto seasonally, starting after the holiday. It's very effective, especially when paired with intermittent fasting. It takes about a week to get into ketosis (or induction, I think is what its called in Atkins) and from there you have to be pretty careful about carbs, but in general you're basically free to eat a shitload of eggs and bacon. I found it also completely eliminated cravings for sugary foods in a few days.
BF?

I weigh like 170 or 180, way too much

hopefully I can lose a good 30 pounds at least
You and me both, hun.  If this works for you, I'll give it a shot


 
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Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
i can give you an extremely effective weight loss supplement, the best in the world. but Its dangerous and I don't know how mentally unstable you are. Wouldn't want your death on my hands smh
What'cha got bro?


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Skipping meals and the like won't help you lose weight, because not only do you risk running into starvation mode (where your body holds on to every little bit of fat it can get), but also the fact that starving yourself will make you eat more later to compensate.
that makes sense, I wish I would've known about that months ago tho

luckily that's not what atkins is

Well, the more you know. If Atkin's doesn't work for you, just know that eating like 2 calories a day is extremely bad for your health and won't give you the results you're looking for.


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Isn't Atkins the meat diet one?

Anyway, best of luck. Personally could never diet, although always mindful of how much junk I eat.


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more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy
Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.
untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content
Chemicals/hormones are reality, you can get the good feelings from exercise without becoming muscly. Even female gymnasts can reach a high level of strength while looking feminine and not ripped.


 
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more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy
Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.
untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content
Chemicals/hormones are reality, you can get the good feelings from exercise without becoming muscly. Even female gymnasts can reach a high level of strength while looking feminine and not ripped.
I don't care about endorphins, I care about how I look

no one wants a fat tall femboy


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We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the shitlord scripture the Bhagavad Reeeeeeeta; Kek is trying to persuade the prince that he should save his people, and to impress him takes on his frog-headed form, and says, "Now I am become meme, the destroyer of cucks." I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.
more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy
Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.
untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content
Chemicals/hormones are reality, you can get the good feelings from exercise without becoming muscly. Even female gymnasts can reach a high level of strength while looking feminine and not ripped.
I don't care about endorphins, I care about how I look

no one wants a fat tall femboy
Sure, tht's a good atitude to take, I should have pointed out that there's more important side effects to working out. You'll want to get your body to chemically rebuild itself for you, stick to higher reps and lower weights and you should be able to cut fat without growing too much muscle.


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so lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5

if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever fam


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I prefer my women on the thicc side, you just need to start hormones.


 
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so lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5

if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever fam
I need my face to thin out

I prefer my women on the thicc side, you just need to start hormones.
even if I wanted to, I don't really have the money or availability


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lol skip the diet and see a therapist. You have an eating disorder.

If you want to lose 30 pounds, you're mental, not fat.


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Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.


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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels


 
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Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
His face isn't fat.


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Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.
You can't do anything without looking even worse you fucking idiot. Keep living in denial like you do about most of your life lmao


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.
You can't do anything without looking even worse you fucking idiot. Keep living in denial like you do about most of your life lmao
so I should just give up and be fat is your advice

what a piece of shit


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all
it's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacy
compared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all
it's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacy
compared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal
wtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollars

but there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFS

also the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to go


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all
it's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacy
compared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal
wtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollars

but there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFS

also the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to go
you don't need FFS
a buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be fine


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Class we've told you, your fat fuck face is due to shit fat storage spots and weak facial structure. Deal with it. Losing weight is going to make you look even more ridiculous than you already do because youre gonna look like a bloated bobble head on a toothpick body.
I have to do something, retard. Fuck off.
You can't do anything without looking even worse you fucking idiot. Keep living in denial like you do about most of your life lmao
so I should just give up and be fat is your advice

what a piece of shit

You're not even close to fat bro


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so lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5

if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever fam
I need my face to thin out
what the fuck bro. what the fuck. is this some old school class memeing?

show me specifically where you believe your face is too fat


 
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Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all
it's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacy
compared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal
wtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollars

but there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFS

also the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to go
you don't need FFS
a buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be fine
thanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.

Thanks for your time tho

so lemme get this straight--you wanna be 6'3" and 140? that's a well underweight bmi of 17.5

if you equate "cuteness" to looking like a 12 year old holocaust victim then whatever fam
I need my face to thin out
what the fuck bro. what the fuck. is this some old school class memeing?

show me specifically where you believe your face is too fat
neck, cheeks, chin


 
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Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what
tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.
Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.
how you treat your body can effect your hormone levels fyi

you likely have low testosterone levels
Well I hope so, I take 1350mg of saw palmetto a day
wtf okay then

just use your drug money for hormones
it costs like $10 for 100 450mg capsules

not comparable to the cost of transitioning (which I'd definitely need FFS for) at all
it's like $17 for the pills someone I know gets from the pharmacy
compared to the $65-120 for testosterone, it's a fucking steal
wtf I thought they were like hundreds of dollars

but there's more considerations than that, anyway. Like I just said, FFS

also the fact I can't really afford to quit my job/move somewhere - I'd have no place to go
you don't need FFS
a buzzsaw to the shoulders maybe but if this is your face now without HRT you'd be fine
thanks for bringing up the main problem; even if my face looks feminine (it doesn't, I have a cleft chin and a huge nose) my body is ridiculous and depressing. My face needs to be as feminine as physically possible to offset that. FFS is a necessity for me to have even the slimmest chance of passing.

Thanks for your time tho
any time fam
if it's any consolation skeletal structure is something everyone with gender dysphoria will always have issues with so you're not alone on that