Quote from: Sandtrap on October 27, 2014, 05:49:03 PMDoes having a lightsaber and viroblade jammed into his chest on multiple occasions mean nothing? Does augmenting himself with the force to increase his own physical strength and pain resistance mean nothing? How about a lightsaber? Being thrown out a window into space?Dude, lightsaber's aren't shit compared to Adamantium. Adamantium is essentially the plot device metal of the Marvel Universe. Unless you're Thor or some shit, you can't break it, you can't counter it, you can't survive the potency of its attacks. I assume Vader isn't invulnerable to decapitation yes? Given that Logan is adept in covertness, I can hazard a guess as to how he could take him in one swift, clandestine move.QuoteThink about it this way. Even if Logan was playing it by stealth, Vader wouldn't have his guard own. Because he just plowed through 7 other opponents, who, I think, could have given them a run for his money in some cases if the circumstances were right.How is he going to detect Logan? Like I said, he's just as skilled as Batman in the art of subterfuge, and he's not a force user, so I really can't see anything that attests to Vader being able to spot him if he does take the silent option. The only chance Vader has is if Logan decides to play it cocky and take him head on from a distance, but I can't really see him doing that.QuoteAnd, further more, think about it this way. If wolverine was protecting you, Vader could cut you down so damn easily without even having to fight wolverine. If vader was protecting you, Almost everybody else would have to get close to you to kill you.QuoteSuperhumanly Acute Senses: Wolverine possesses superhumanly acute senses that are comparable to those of certain animals. He can see at far greater distances, with perfect clarity, than an ordinary human. He retains this same level of clarity even in near total darkness. His hearing is enhanced in a similar manner, allowing him to detect sounds ordinary humans couldn't hear at a greater distances, enough to hear a teardrop in another room that have thick walls with enough focus. He is able to recognize people and objects by scent, even if they are well hidden. He can track a target by scent, even if the scent has been greatly eroded by time and weather factors, with an extraordinary degree of success. Wolverine can also use his keen sense of smell to detect lies due to chemical changes within a person's scent. These senses stem from, at least partially, his constant cellular regeneration, as are his enhanced physical capabilities.He basically has a natural radar system.
Does having a lightsaber and viroblade jammed into his chest on multiple occasions mean nothing? Does augmenting himself with the force to increase his own physical strength and pain resistance mean nothing? How about a lightsaber? Being thrown out a window into space?
Think about it this way. Even if Logan was playing it by stealth, Vader wouldn't have his guard own. Because he just plowed through 7 other opponents, who, I think, could have given them a run for his money in some cases if the circumstances were right.
And, further more, think about it this way. If wolverine was protecting you, Vader could cut you down so damn easily without even having to fight wolverine. If vader was protecting you, Almost everybody else would have to get close to you to kill you.
Superhumanly Acute Senses: Wolverine possesses superhumanly acute senses that are comparable to those of certain animals. He can see at far greater distances, with perfect clarity, than an ordinary human. He retains this same level of clarity even in near total darkness. His hearing is enhanced in a similar manner, allowing him to detect sounds ordinary humans couldn't hear at a greater distances, enough to hear a teardrop in another room that have thick walls with enough focus. He is able to recognize people and objects by scent, even if they are well hidden. He can track a target by scent, even if the scent has been greatly eroded by time and weather factors, with an extraordinary degree of success. Wolverine can also use his keen sense of smell to detect lies due to chemical changes within a person's scent. These senses stem from, at least partially, his constant cellular regeneration, as are his enhanced physical capabilities.
What I mean by Vader having his guard up, is that he can generate barriers. Physical barriers that stop anybody from passing them. Physical barriers that are immune to the force and lightsabers.
What I mean by killing you, is that Vader could kill you at range before Wolverine engaged him. Even if Wolverine knew he was coming, Vader has so much shit under his sleeves that he wouldn't have to physically beat wolverine in combat to win. One stray frorce push, a grapple, a thrown lightsaber, and he could kill you while dealing with Wolverine.
Quote from: Sandtrap on October 27, 2014, 06:12:23 PMWhat I mean by Vader having his guard up, is that he can generate barriers. Physical barriers that stop anybody from passing them. Physical barriers that are immune to the force and lightsabers.But they're not the be all and end all to every physical attack. According to the wiki it takes a relative amount of concentration to sustain for long periods of time and can also be collapsed after a multitude of physical or telekinetic barrages. It's not like it's Vader's cheat code or anything.Besides, where was his shield when he got BTFO by Luke on the Death Star?QuoteWhat I mean by killing you, is that Vader could kill you at range before Wolverine engaged him. Even if Wolverine knew he was coming, Vader has so much shit under his sleeves that he wouldn't have to physically beat wolverine in combat to win. One stray frorce push, a grapple, a thrown lightsaber, and he could kill you while dealing with Wolverine.Ah, I forgot the objective was to kill me, not for the opponents to win. Apologies. I will concede to that point.I guess the scenario is kind of rigged then, because Wolverine can't protect me as well as Vader can, but Vader can't really kill Wolverine once all other opponents have been eliminated. Huh. Tricky one this.
One will protect you, the other eight will try to kill you
