You just have bad taste, evidently.

Or this crazy new thing called "different taste".

Quote from: SecondClass on March 26, 2016, 06:34:16 PM

Or this crazy new thing called "different taste".

"Different"... "worse"... who gives a shit? You're always trying to shut down conversation.

Quote from: SecondClass on March 26, 2016, 06:54:25 PM

Thanks for literally admitting that "different" and "worse" are the same in your book.

Oh my god you're such a child.

I obviously think my tastes are good, so by extension, anyone who doesn't share them has bad taste. This goes for everyone, ever.

Pacing was worse than Man of Steel, dialogue was garbage ("Your Doomsday." "The red capes are coming." "Son of Krypton versus Bat of Gotham!" "Save... Martha..."), casting was god-awful (Ben is the saving grace, here. Seriously the best part of the movie is him). Action scenes were visually impressive but they're often ruined by small, stupid mistakes that any other director could and easily would change. For example, in the Knightmare sequence, the fight was, on the surface, awesome! But then you see multiple Supermax guards in the background literally just standing there until Snyder told them it was their turn to attack Bats. Or in the warehouse when he's going to save Martha, instead of shooting him out-right, the thug just pulls out a fucking frag grenade so that Zack has an excuse to include an awesome explosion in the background.

The special effects at times were just so poorly done, they actually reminded me vaguely of Batman and Robin. When Bats begins to swing Superman around in the port from the ankle? That was the faking shit I've ever seen in my life. Or when Batman yanks the crate above his head, even though that's physically impossible, during the warehouse fight. Just absolutely ridiculous.

Lex Luthor is just... no. The worst thing I've ever seen. And it's not Eisenberg's fault, it's the character direction I have a problem with.

There are so many things I absolutely LOVED about the film but I can't just say it's a good movie because of that... it's a piece of shit with moments of brilliance thrown in there. As are most of Snyder's films.

Most of those overly-dramatic comments are made by Luthor and he was purposefully doing it to show how deranged Lex really is, otherwise we'd just think he's only a little eccentric instead of being a legitimate madman.

As for the small mistakes, there was plenty of moments of idle guards in Nolan's trilogy, TDKR being the worst offender. The grenade? Maybe you're right but I didn't really think much about it until you brought it up.

Sorry, but I really didn't see this. The ankle thing may have seemed over done, but considering how much of an edge Batman had over Superman when he was weak, just about anything Batman did may have come off that way. Also Batman was training some pretty crazy stuff right before his fight, I wouldn't put it past him to be able to fling a crate like that (especially if we don't even know if it's crazy heavy or not).

Esienberg/Luthor didn't actually bother me as much as I thought.

I can not comment on CA2 or DP in how they treat guards though as I had not seen either and I'm pretty used to those types of characters doing that since I got enough of it in Star Wars, maybe Disney just puts more resources/effort into what goes on in the background but it seems like a money sink because that's not what you're supposed to be focused on.

And I get you on Luthor, I really do. If they had kept ripped body builder Luthor I would've been ecstatic, but I guess I'm just more open to a new take on Luthor than most comic fans are considering how iconic he is to Superman.

But I feel like if they had cast Luthor a more appropriate way, it would've squandered him more since Luthor was mostly just the guy setting up the events, not necessarily partaking in them.

Quote from: SecondClass on March 26, 2016, 07:23:02 PM

Someone who has never heard of Batman could go in, watch the movie, and have just as valid of an opinion as you.

Do you understand why I even included the "DC shill" part? It was to demonstrate that I'm biased towards the movie, and I still think it was shit. Someone who doesn't give a shit about DC? I can see them disliking the movie even more than me, because they don't have emotional ties to the two main fucking characters.

You need to fuck off. I'm trying to have an actual conversation here.