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Just saw Batman vs. Superman. Seriously, how much did Disney pay reviewers to say it was a bad movie? I went in there expecting a 5/10 and got an easy 8. And those reviews on Rotten Tomatoes? There's clearly a bias, with a solid 75% approval from everyone else, there's just no fucking way.

The movie was solid, WB/DC is stepping its game up and it's apparent. Justice League is going to go to fucking town and push DC back into relevancy. I dunno, maybe people are still butthurt over the whole Affleck thing but he made a great Bruce Wayne.


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The healthy man does not torture others - generally it is the tortured who turn into torturers.
So, you found it good meaning everyone else is bias and wrong?


I didn't think it was that bad, but its not great. Affleck did a good job too.


 
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It is certainly better than what everybody is making it out to be. I seriously think there's a Marvel bias going on that's manipulating people's judgement on the movie. I only found one thing jarring and that was the whole Wayne dreaming scenario, but I couldn't find anything actually making the movie be as low as people are putting it.

So, you found it good meaning everyone else is bias and wrong?


 
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It was ass and I'm a straight-up DC shill. You just have bad taste, evidently.

It certainly got things right every once in awhile, though.


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What was ass about it? And God help you if one of the things you say is having the appearances of the other heroes in there.

It was ass and I'm a straight-up DC shill. You just have bad taste, evidently.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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You just have bad taste, evidently.
Or this crazy new thing called "different taste".

I love how everyone on here acts like their opinions are the end-all. You like a movie I don't? There's something wrong with your entire movie-watching process.


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I actualy have to agree with OP

Granted I havent actualy seen the movie yet, but a good chunk of the review are clear cut bullshit nomater how you look at it. All the shit about it being deviod of comedy...seriously?
For fucks sake could you have Marvel's dick any further down your throat?

Better yet, remember the last time a Batman movie tried to be funny?
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What was ass about it? And God help you if one of the things you say is having the appearances of the other heroes in there.

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I don't actually mind the inclusion of the other heroes, actually. But...

Pacing was worse than Man of Steel, dialogue was garbage ("Your Doomsday." "The red capes are coming." "Son of Krypton versus Bat of Gotham!" "Save... Martha..."), casting was god-awful (Ben is the saving grace, here. Seriously the best part of the movie is him). Action scenes were visually impressive but they're often ruined by small, stupid mistakes that any other director could and easily would change. For example, in the Knightmare sequence, the fight was, on the surface, awesome! But then you see multiple Supermax guards in the background literally just standing there until Snyder told them it was their turn to attack Bats. Or in the warehouse when he's going to save Martha, instead of shooting him out-right, the thug just pulls out a fucking frag grenade so that Zack has an excuse to include an awesome explosion in the background.

The special effects at times were just so poorly done, they actually reminded me vaguely of Batman and Robin. When Bats begins to swing Superman around in the port from the ankle? That was the faking shit I've ever seen in my life. Or when Batman yanks the crate above his head, even though that's physically impossible, during the warehouse fight. Just absolutely ridiculous.

Lex Luthor is just... no. The worst thing I've ever seen. And it's not Eisenberg's fault, it's the character direction I have a problem with.

There are so many things I absolutely LOVED about the film but I can't just say it's a good movie because of that... it's a piece of shit with moments of brilliance thrown in there. As are most of Snyder's films.
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Or this crazy new thing called "different taste".

"Different"... "worse"... who gives a shit? You're always trying to shut down conversation.


 
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It physically hurts me to say that this movie blows ass. I wish it didn't.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Or this crazy new thing called "different taste".

"Different"... "worse"... who gives a shit? You're always trying to shut down conversation.
Thanks for literally admitting that "different" and "worse" are the same in your book.

Not trying to shut down conversation at all, claiming that anyone who doesn't share your tastes just has bad taste is what's doing that.


 
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Thanks for literally admitting that "different" and "worse" are the same in your book.

Oh my god you're such a child.


 
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I obviously think my tastes are good, so by extension, anyone who doesn't share them has bad taste. This goes for everyone, ever.


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its definitely not an 8/10. the negativity is way overblown but its not that good of a movie. 6/10 at best.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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Thanks for literally admitting that "different" and "worse" are the same in your book.

Oh my god you're such a child.
Says the person who freaked out over Metal Gear spoilers and is now freaking out over Batman


 
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Says the person who freaked out over Metal Gear spoilers and is now freaking out over Batman

lol alright buddy


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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I obviously think my tastes are good, so by extension, anyone who doesn't share them has bad taste. This goes for everyone, ever.
Lol, this goes for every manchild, ever. I have my tastes, and I think they're good, but I also have the brain capacity to understand that people are different. Just because I like element A in a movie doesn't mean that element A is good, it just means that I like it.

Again, no one's opinion is the end-all. Claiming everyone thinks like you just shows how immature you are.


 
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5/10 is what I'd give it. Man of Steel was a 7/10, Avengers: Age of Ultron was an 8. For reference.


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Most of those overly-dramatic comments are made by Luthor and he was purposefully doing it to show how deranged Lex really is, otherwise we'd just think he's only a little eccentric instead of being a legitimate madman.

As for the small mistakes, there was plenty of moments of idle guards in Nolan's trilogy, TDKR being the worst offender. The grenade? Maybe you're right but I didn't really think much about it until you brought it up.

Pacing was worse than Man of Steel, dialogue was garbage ("Your Doomsday." "The red capes are coming." "Son of Krypton versus Bat of Gotham!" "Save... Martha..."), casting was god-awful (Ben is the saving grace, here. Seriously the best part of the movie is him). Action scenes were visually impressive but they're often ruined by small, stupid mistakes that any other director could and easily would change. For example, in the Knightmare sequence, the fight was, on the surface, awesome! But then you see multiple Supermax guards in the background literally just standing there until Snyder told them it was their turn to attack Bats. Or in the warehouse when he's going to save Martha, instead of shooting him out-right, the thug just pulls out a fucking frag grenade so that Zack has an excuse to include an awesome explosion in the background.

Sorry, but I really didn't see this. The ankle thing may have seemed over done, but considering how much of an edge Batman had over Superman when he was weak, just about anything Batman did may have come off that way. Also Batman was training some pretty crazy stuff right before his fight, I wouldn't put it past him to be able to fling a crate like that (especially if we don't even know if it's crazy heavy or not).

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The special effects at times were just so poorly done, they actually reminded me vaguely of Batman and Robin. When Bats begins to swing Superman around in the port from the ankle? That was the faking shit I've ever seen in my life. Or when Batman yanks the crate above his head, even though that's physically impossible, during the warehouse fight. Just absolutely ridiculous.

Esienberg/Luthor didn't actually bother me as much as I thought. I mean it felt a little weird to have this scrawny twig that could snap at any moment play Lex, but he really grew on me throughout the movie showing they were going for a deranged scientist over someone who wanted to stand toe to toe with Superman.

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Lex Luthor is just... no. The worst thing I've ever seen. And it's not Eisenberg's fault, it's the character direction I have a problem with.

There are so many things I absolutely LOVED about the film but I can't just say it's a good movie because of that... it's a piece of shit with moments of brilliance thrown in there. As are most of Snyder's films.


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Critics suck tbh

The movie was a solid 8/10

I was expecting batfleck to be have a crazy good performance judging from reviews. He was good but nowhere near what people were making it out be.
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Most of those overly-dramatic comments are made by Luthor and he was purposefully doing it to show how deranged Lex really is, otherwise we'd just think he's only a little eccentric instead of being a legitimate madman.

Oh, I know that. But I'm criticising the decision to make him like that. The character direction for Lex Luthor is so different, so jarring... I absolutely hate it. Jesse did good with what he had but I'm not a fan of the direction Zack took in the first place.

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As for the small mistakes, there was plenty of moments of idle guards in Nolan's trilogy, TDKR being the worst offender. The grenade? Maybe you're right but I didn't really think much about it until you brought it up.

Well, The Dark Knight trilogy wasn't that good [as a superhero trilogy] in the first place. But that's a different conversation; the point is, one movie doing something stupid doesn't absolve another of making the same mistake.

I don't know, maybe I've just been spoiled with how good the action sequences were in The Winter Soldier and Deadpool.

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Sorry, but I really didn't see this. The ankle thing may have seemed over done, but considering how much of an edge Batman had over Superman when he was weak, just about anything Batman did may have come off that way. Also Batman was training some pretty crazy stuff right before his fight, I wouldn't put it past him to be able to fling a crate like that (especially if we don't even know if it's crazy heavy or not).

Go see it again and tell me it doesn't look fake as shit. I've unfortunately seen the movie thrice, and I just couldn't contain my disbelief. Moreso at the ankle thing, but the crate moment is still pretty ridiculous.

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Esienberg/Luthor didn't actually bother me as much as I thought.

Are you honestly telling me you wouldn't prefer an "All-Star Superman" version of Luthor over Eisenberg's version? Come. On. He's almost objectively worse.

I mean, I don't want to be insulting but that's just... how well-versed are you in DC comics?


 
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The movie was a solid 8/10

Like...

how can people say this?

An 8? You don't think you're being a bit generous?

I mean, I know everyone's entitled to their opinion, but... you must have really low standards. I'm a full-blown DC shill, with a bit of a Superman fanboy on the side, and I can't give this thing anything more than a 6.


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More well versed than I am of Marvel. I can not comment on CA2 or DP in how they treat guards though as I had not seen either and I'm pretty used to those types of characters doing that since I got enough of it in Star Wars (Watchmen is another movie notorious for idle troops). Maybe Disney just puts more resources/effort into what goes on in the background but it seems like a money sink because that's not what you're supposed to be focused on.

And I get you on Luthor, I really do. If they had kept ripped body builder Luthor I would've been ecstatic, but I guess I'm just more open to a new take on Luthor than most comic fans are considering how iconic he is to Superman. But I feel like if they had cast Luthor a more appropriate way, it would've squandered him more since Luthor was mostly just the guy setting up the events, not necessarily partaking in them.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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The movie was a solid 8/10

Like...

how can people say this?

An 8? You don't think you're being a bit generous?

I mean, I know everyone's entitled to their opinion, but... you must have really low standards. I'm a full-blown DC shill, with a bit of a Superman fanboy on the side, and I can't give this thing anything more than a 6.
Oh my god, please shut the fuck up.

You know it's a movie, right? It's not some thing that's inextricably tied to the comics. Being a "DC shill" has nothing to do with it. Someone who has never heard of Batman could go in, watch the movie, and have just as valid of an opinion as you. "Low standards". Who do you think you are?


 
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I can not comment on CA2 or DP in how they treat guards though as I had not seen either and I'm pretty used to those types of characters doing that since I got enough of it in Star Wars, maybe Disney just puts more resources/effort into what goes on in the background but it seems like a money sink because that's not what you're supposed to be focused on.

First of all,

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GO SEE THE WINTER SOLDIER RIGHT NOW PLS

Second of all, I think Deadpool has some pretty iffy moments with stuff in the background, but definitely not TWS. And even the worse offenses in Deadpool don't really approach BvS.

And even if they did, just because it's "common place" to not give a shit about small details like that doesn't really excuse the fact that the movie is still worse for it.

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And I get you on Luthor, I really do. If they had kept ripped body builder Luthor I would've been ecstatic, but I guess I'm just more open to a new take on Luthor than most comic fans are considering how iconic he is to Superman.


I'm open to new interpretations too, but not when they're worse than the tried-and-true versions everyone is familiar with. Being different for the sake of being different? Nah. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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But I feel like if they had cast Luthor a more appropriate way, it would've squandered him more since Luthor was mostly just the guy setting up the events, not necessarily partaking in them.

That's another issue with the movie altogether.
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Someone who has never heard of Batman could go in, watch the movie, and have just as valid of an opinion as you.

Do you understand why I even included the "DC shill" part? It was to demonstrate that I'm biased towards the movie, and I still think it was shit. Someone who doesn't give a shit about DC? I can see them disliking the movie even more than me, because they don't have emotional ties to the two main fucking characters.

You need to fuck off. I'm trying to have an actual conversation here.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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Someone who has never heard of Batman could go in, watch the movie, and have just as valid of an opinion as you.

Do you understand why I even included the "DC shill" part? It was to demonstrate that I'm biased towards the movie, and I still think it was shit. Someone who doesn't give a shit about DC? I can see them disliking the movie even more than me, because they don't have emotional ties to the two main fucking characters.

You need to fuck off. I'm trying to have an actual conversation here.
If having an actual conversation means bitching about anyone giving it more than a 6/10, then sure you are.

Just because you like Batman and hated the movie doesn't give you some kind of executive authority to say it's bad. You didn't like it, that doesn't mean anyone who does has low standards. Get over yourself.


 
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If having an actual conversation means bitching about anyone giving it more than a 6/10, then sure you are.

I'm asking him to justify his rating while poking fun at him a little because I think his opinion is laughable. All while still being civil about it.

Take your sensitivity somewhere else, fuck.