Then where is the rationality in dying?
QuoteThen where is the rationality in dying?You realize that's exactly what I'm trying to say, right?Here's an interesting thought:If all life on Earth (from all the kingdoms) killed themselves, every problem in the world would be solved. Perhaps even the universe.But it has to be everything.
Maybe in social settings. Instead of declining a puff I'd take one. No way am I spending money on that shit, though.
Here's an interesting thought:If all life on Earth (from all the kingdoms) killed themselves, every problem in the world would be solved. Perhaps even the universe.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 06:56:51 PMQuoteThen where is the rationality in dying?You realize that's exactly what I'm trying to say, right?Here's an interesting thought:If all life on Earth (from all the kingdoms) killed themselves, every problem in the world would be solved. Perhaps even the universe.But it has to be everything.i dont know if you've seen it, but matthew mcconaughey's character in true detective says something along these lines early on in the series. "we are things that labor under the illusion of having a self... this secretion of sensory experience and feeling.. programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact, everybody's nobody. i think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand and hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal."
Quote from: Azumarill on December 04, 2014, 07:03:55 PMQuote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 06:56:51 PMQuoteThen where is the rationality in dying?You realize that's exactly what I'm trying to say, right?Here's an interesting thought:If all life on Earth (from all the kingdoms) killed themselves, every problem in the world would be solved. Perhaps even the universe.But it has to be everything.i dont know if you've seen it, but matthew mcconaughey's character in true detective says something along these lines early on in the series. "we are things that labor under the illusion of having a self... this secretion of sensory experience and feeling.. programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact, everybody's nobody. i think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand and hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal."You've piqued my interest. I'll have to check it out, I guess.
If all sentient life was gone then I say that nothing would be solved because all issues would not exist, and there would be nothing to solve in the first place.
And I say that there is no rationality in such an event because sentience must exist for rationality to even manifest.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on December 04, 2014, 07:08:47 PMIf all sentient life was gone then I say that nothing would be solved because all issues would not exist, and there would be nothing to solve in the first place.The important thing is that there would be nothing wrong, either.QuoteAnd I say that there is no rationality in such an event because sentience must exist for rationality to even manifest.Sounds like presuppositionalist bullshit, to me.I guess I'm for the destruction of rationality, too, then. I don't care. My whole point is that humans suffer, and the ones who don't suffer still have the capacity to do so and the ability to cause others to suffer through reproduction. This is an insidious waste and it should cease to exist.What you're basically arguing for, right now, is the perpetuation of problems. You want problems to exist. That's... Yeah, that's evil.
Sounds like presuppositionalist bullshit, to me.
What you're basically arguing for, right now, is the perpetuation of problems. You want problems to exist. That's... Yeah, that's evil.
It always comes down to your ridiculous self inflicted genocide or whatever you call it.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 07:16:00 PMQuote from: DemonicChronic on December 04, 2014, 07:08:47 PMIf all sentient life was gone then I say that nothing would be solved because all issues would not exist, and there would be nothing to solve in the first place.The important thing is that there would be nothing wrong, either.QuoteAnd I say that there is no rationality in such an event because sentience must exist for rationality to even manifest.Sounds like presuppositionalist bullshit, to me.I guess I'm for the destruction of rationality, too, then. I don't care. My whole point is that humans suffer, and the ones who don't suffer still have the capacity to do so and the ability to cause others to suffer through reproduction. This is an insidious waste and it should cease to exist.What you're basically arguing for, right now, is the perpetuation of problems. You want problems to exist. That's... Yeah, that's evil.It always comes down to your ridiculous self inflicted genocide or whatever you call it. We just HAD to let this motherfucker back in.
It's only logical to assume that logic in and of itself is conditioned by sentience.
Everybody goes through shit.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on December 04, 2014, 07:29:54 PMIt's only logical to assume that logic in and of itself is conditioned by sentience.Are you some kind of solipsist or something? What is this? Yes, there absolutely exists logic in the universe even if there's no sentient life to perceive it. It doesn't just go away once we do. That's arbitrary.
Your definition of logic seems to be akin to action and reaction, or karma (consequence.)
Don't worry, already dealt with that and more.
Quote from: DemonicChronic on December 04, 2014, 07:42:38 PMYour definition of logic seems to be akin to action and reaction, or karma (consequence.)I hope you're not accusing me in believing in that mystical "what comes around goes around" bullshit. Like, if someone does something bad, they're always gonna get their comeuppance in some form or another? No, I don't believe that crazy shit, but I assume you mean it in a more broad sense that I was not sure of the existence of.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 07:48:12 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 04, 2014, 07:44:43 PMDon't worry, already dealt with that and more.your own opinion on life doesn't justify lifeBut your opinion justifies nonexistence?
Quote from: challengerX on December 04, 2014, 07:44:43 PMDon't worry, already dealt with that and more.your own opinion on life doesn't justify life
Quote from: Verbatim on December 04, 2014, 07:45:29 PMQuote from: DemonicChronic on December 04, 2014, 07:42:38 PMYour definition of logic seems to be akin to action and reaction, or karma (consequence.)I hope you're not accusing me in believing in that mystical "what comes around goes around" bullshit. Like, if someone does something bad, they're always gonna get their comeuppance in some form or another? No, I don't believe that crazy shit, but I assume you mean it in a more broad sense that I was not sure of the existence of.Karma isn't some mystical force. It's just the nature of consequence and influence.IE: If you play with fire long enough, you'll eventually get burned. Not because some divine force decided to teach you a lesson. Simply because you made a mistake and burned yourself.A broader example is that if you cause suffering then there will undoubtedly be more suffering in the environment you happen to be in and you will inevitably suffer more yourself, unless you somehow manage to escape the influence of your actions or just stop caring about anything that would cause you to suffer to the point that your ego is unaffected by it all.
If marijuana was legal, would you try it?
