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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
But it's different from a burger, and especially different from an open face sandwich, which I argue isn't even a sandwich at all.
if it's not a sandwich, but it has "sandwich" in its name, it's called a misnomer
i don't know what an open face sandwich is, so i'll ignore that example

i consider burgers sandwiches too.

what i'm getting from this is that you people just don't like speaking in broad terms when it comes to music.
...i do. i don't see why it's even a big deal

^an open face tuna sandwich
Arguably, from my standpoint, not a sandwich.


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A sub is a different kind of sandwich than others. But is it the same as other sandwiches? No.
awesome

that's never what i was trying to say

so... that's YOUR misinterpretation


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Oh I forgot to add that most Modern Prog had a tendency to "mature", but it depends. Tool is hard to classify because they have a unique sound, but I mostly hear Progressive Rock and Grunge.
and i hear metal

so what

someone said progressive metal? i think that's a reasonable classification, given your description
but that would still make it metal in a broad sense
Last Edit: December 11, 2014, 05:25:11 PM by Verbatim


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.

Genres are subjective.
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yes of course. I had forgotten that humanity was a hive mind and unanimously agreed upon the nature of music and it's classification.


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Remind me to make a better bio.
This fucking thread.

Tell me about it, I left for a couple hours and came back not expecting a huge debate going on.


 
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I would also like to point out that Metalheads are more serious about genres because of the cultural aspects of Metal. It's silly and ridiculous mostly, but it's part of the culture, and if you don't like it then stay out.
okay

so what terms should i use, if metal is wrong
i don't agree with progressive rock, at all

when i think rock, i think rolling stones
i don't fucking think tool

so i need terminology outside of "metal" i guess, because when it comes to music genres, the only thing i care about is the sound itself

not what MAKES UP the sound, necessarily--just the sound.
that is ALL i care about

i think that's all anyone should care about, unless you yourself want to make music


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A sub is a different kind of sandwich than others. But is it the same as other sandwiches? No.
awesome

that's never what i was trying to say

so... that's YOUR misinterpretation

HAHA no. A "sub sandwich" is not the same as a "burger". That is a fact.


 
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HAHA no. A "sub sandwich" is not the same as a "burger". That is a fact.
and you're an idiot if you think that's what i'm saying

a sub is not a burger
a sub is a sandwich
a burger is a sandwich
a sub and a burger are both sandwiches

this is first grade shit


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
This fucking thread.

Emo is objectively better than all of this.
How did I miss this post?

Post-hardcore>Emo


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HAHA no. A "sub sandwich" is not the same as a "burger". That is a fact.
and you're an idiot if you think that's what i'm saying

a sub is not a burger
a sub is a sandwich
a burger is a sandwich
a sub and a burger are both sandwiches

this is first grade shit

And we're talking about their differences, not the fact they're both sandwiches. I thought you got held back in first grade?


 
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And we're talking about their differences, not the fact they're both sandwiches.
No. You might be talking about the former, but since the very beginning, I've been talking about the latter.

I'm saying metal is TOO BROAD not to include Tool in it.
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This fucking thread.

Emo is objectively better than all of this.
How did I miss this post?

Post-hardcore>Emo

Emo is a subgenre of it....


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You seem to forget that I don't care what you think. Nor does anyone else.
okay

Tool is metal.

get pissed please


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And we're talking about their differences, not the fact they're both sandwiches.
No. You might be talking about the former, but since the very beginning, I've been talking about the latter.

The latter is irrelevant. One classical piece from one genre will not be the same as another classical genre just because you can call them both "classical". They will be different.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
This fucking thread.

Emo is objectively better than all of this.
How did I miss this post?

Post-hardcore>Emo

Emo is a subgenre of it....
I expected a different reaction... carry on.


 
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The latter is irrelevant.
But it is what I'm talking about. I don't care if you find it irrelevant.


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This fucking thread.

Emo is objectively better than all of this.
How did I miss this post?

Post-hardcore>Emo

Emo is a subgenre of it....
I expected a different reaction... carry on.

Oh music fans, so easily rustled...


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Tool is objectively not Metal
you've done an unbelievably shitty job of proving that

in fact... you didn't


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Tool is objectively not Metal
you've done an unbelievably shitty job of proving that

in fact... you didn't

No, you've just chosen to ignore the reasons WHY it isn't metal. Music theory reasons, which apply to all music and how they fall into genres. You know, like I tried to explain about classical genres?


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Hey Jim, what if I said that as an album, Undertow hits a little more metal than Rock, but only that album.


 
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No, you've just chosen to ignore the reasons WHY it isn't metal. Music theory reasons, which apply to all music and how they fall into genres. You know, like I tried to explain about classical genres?
yeah, and you sucked the big one at that, too

you're the only person i know who can say stuff like "some classical music isn't classical music"

be right back, i'm gonna go listen to some metal music
like tool


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