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Lol man, are you really so insecure that you have to attack others for the way they choose to live their lives?
lmao what a clown post


 
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Lol man, are you really so insecure that you have to attack others for the way they choose to live their lives?
lmao what a clown post
Good one? Maybe actually respond to my argument?

Judging others is never a positive thing. People need to learn to mind their own fucking business.


 
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What? I'm talking about your irrational hatred of anime.
I don't hate people for watching anime, either. Soooo. Make more shit up, I guess.

I find it bizarre that people enjoy it, because everything about it just offends me to my core, but that's it.


 
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Judging people is a sign of low intelligence and self-esteem, actually. You don't need to look at others' flaws if you're perfectly content with yourself.
Where does the low intelligence come in? I don't see the correlation.

And no, if I was perfect, I'd still judge people.


 
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What? I'm talking about your irrational hatred of anime.
I don't hate people for watching anime, either. Soooo. Make more shit up, I guess.

I find it bizarre that people enjoy it, because everything about it just offends me to my core, but that's it.
Yet you hate people for doing drugs, which is ridiculous. If you hate someone for doing something that only affects themselves, you're an asshole.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Judging people is a sign of low intelligence and self-esteem, actually. You don't need to look at others' flaws if you're perfectly content with yourself.
Where does the low intelligence come in? I don't see the correlation.

And no, if I was perfect, I'd still judge people.
Smart people focus more on themselves and the world than petty things about others.


 
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Yet you hate people for doing drugs, which is ridiculous.
No, I don't. Christ.

I think doing drugs is stupid. What do you call someone who does stupid things?

That's all you can reduce my arguments to.

Smart people focus more on themselves and the world than petty things about others.
We're gonna fundamentally disagree there.


 
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So you'd call someone who knocks every intelligence test out of the park and gets into a world-class college stupid because they smoke a joint every weekend? Lol, man. You'd call that person fundamentally unintelligent?


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Lol man, are you really so insecure that you have to attack others for the way they choose to live their lives?
lmao what a clown post
Good one? Maybe actually respond to my argument?

Judging others is never a positive thing. People need to learn to mind their own fucking business.
I'm saying this because you're being incredibly hypocritical. How can u say stuff like this but then go on to judge the fuck out of trannies? It's like there are 2 people posting on this account smh


 
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Lol man, are you really so insecure that you have to attack others for the way they choose to live their lives?
lmao what a clown post
Good one? Maybe actually respond to my argument?

Judging others is never a positive thing. People need to learn to mind their own fucking business.
I'm saying this because you're being incredibly hypocritical. How can u say stuff like this but then go on to judge the fuck out of trannies? It's like there are 2 people posting on this account smh
I'm not perfect.


 
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So you'd call someone who knocks every intelligence test out of the park and gets into a world-class college stupid because they smoke a joint every weekend? Lol, man. You'd call that person fundamentally unintelligent?
Yes, I would. Haven't you said yourself that tests are a poor indicator of intelligence anyway, or am I thinking of someone else? You'd be right in saying that. Book smarts have little to do with overall intelligence.

There's a reason a lot of smart, "nerdy" kids are stigmatized as social rejects.
Because they tend to be socially retarded.
Last Edit: October 02, 2015, 01:10:22 PM by Fuddy-duddy


 
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So you'd call someone who knocks every intelligence test out of the park and gets into a world-class college stupid because they smoke a joint every weekend? Lol, man. You'd call that person fundamentally unintelligent?
Yes, I would. Haven't you said yourself that tests are a poor indicator of intelligence anyway, or am I thinking of someone else? You'd be right in saying that. Book smarts have little to do with overall intelligence.
I'm talking about IQ, which is by definition book smarts.

With your logic, Carl Sagan was unintelligent. Yet I'm sure he was far smarter than you.


 
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I'm talking about IQ, which is by definition book smarts.
IQ is about as meaningful as BMI.

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With your logic, Carl Sagan was unintelligent. Yet I'm sure he was far smarter than you.
If Carl Sagan's intelligence could be rated out of a million points, let's say he'd be around 900,000 for the sake of argument.

He loses 10 points because he smoked pot. Not a lot, but it still factors in.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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I'm talking about IQ, which is by definition book smarts.
IQ is about as meaningful as BMI.

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With your logic, Carl Sagan was unintelligent. Yet I'm sure he was far smarter than you.
If Carl Sagan's intelligence could be rated out of a million points, let's say he'd be around 900,000 for the sake of argument.

He loses 10 points because he smoked pot. Not a lot, but it still factors in.
There's no arguing with you lol

You don't even have an argument. It's pretty much "pot is dumb because I said so"


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
Just because something can be dangerous doesn't inherently make it unintelligent. That's still your opinion, nothing objective about it.
Explain how it doesn't.

Everything you do in life carries risk.
You are far more likely to die from falling coconuts than from ingesting mushrooms.

Life is about risk/reward. For you the reward is not worth the risk, but again that is your opinion.


 
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There's no arguing with you lol

You don't even have an argument. It's pretty much "pot is dumb because I said so"
Yeah, just ignore my philosophical position towards the idea of losing one's sobriety, which I think is my most salient point. My argument is that sobriety should be of utmost importance to everybody. I've stated repeatedly and truthfully that the brain is the most important organ in your body, and you'd have to be incredibly stupid to ever want to mess around with it. Even if the effects are temporary.


 
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Everything you do in life carries risk.
You are far more likely to die from falling coconuts than from ingesting mushrooms.
I'd like to see your source for that.
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Life is about risk/reward. For you the reward is not worth the risk, but again that is your opinion.
"That is your opinion" is not an argument. Show me why my opinion is wrong and why no one should agree with it.

This idea that opinions can't be argued is pretty retarded.
Last Edit: October 02, 2015, 01:25:55 PM by Fuddy-duddy


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
Everything you do in life carries risk.
You are far more likely to die from falling coconuts than from ingesting mushrooms.
I'd like to see your source for that.

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Life is about risk/reward. For you the reward is not worth the risk, but again that is your opinion.
"That is your opinion" is not an argument. Show me why my opinion is wrong and why no one should agree with it.
 


https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_death.shtml


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_coconut

Under documented occurrences.

Thank you for admitting that "drugs are dumb" is your opinion. That's all I was after.


 
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Thank you for admitting that "drugs are dumb" is your opinion. That's all I was after.
The difference is that my opinion is actually backed up by heavy substantiation and hard philosophy.

Yours is backed up by piss, shit, and nothing.


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
Thank you for admitting that "drugs are dumb" is your opinion. That's all I was after.
The difference is that my opinion is actually backed up by heavy substantiation and hard philosophy.

Yours is backed up by piss, shit, and nothing.
Someone's mad.

You opinion is backed by zero knowledge and a stubborn refusal to accept that you can be wrong, mine is backed by quantifiable evidence.


 
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You opinion is backed by zero knowledge and a stubborn refusal to accept that you can be wrong, mine is backed by quantifiable evidence.
Drugs get you high.

That's knowledge.

Being sober is better, because you can control all your faculties, and you are perfectly conscious of everything.

That's also knowledge.

Unless you can show me a drug that doesn't get you high, no, you have nothing.


 
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You also have to demonstrate to me why being sober isn't the best fucking thing in the universe, which it is.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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There's no arguing with you lol

You don't even have an argument. It's pretty much "pot is dumb because I said so"
Yeah, just ignore my philosophical position towards the idea of losing one's sobriety, which I think is my most salient point. My argument is that sobriety should be of utmost importance to everybody. I've stated repeatedly and truthfully that the brain is the most important organ in your body, and you'd have to be incredibly stupid to ever want to mess around with it. Even if the effects are temporary.
Well, that's where we differ. I couldn't care less about sobriety. The brain may be the most important organ, philosophically or not, but enjoying your life is much more important than taking care of an organ. "You're a moron if you need drugs to enjoy your life", I'm sure will be your rebuttal. I never said need, it's just a bonus. You can enjoy your life without video games or TV, too. I could just as easily say you're a moron if you need video games to enjoy your life.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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You also have to demonstrate to me why being sober isn't the best fucking thing in the universe, which it is.
The burden of proof is on you, you're the one making the positive claim. You have yet to demonstrate to me why is being sober is the best fucking thing in the universe.


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison


You opinion is backed by zero knowledge and a stubborn refusal to accept that you can be wrong, mine is backed by quantifiable evidence.
Drugs get you high.

That's knowledge.

Being sober is better, because you can control all your faculties, and you are perfectly conscious of everything.

That's also knowledge.

Unless you can show me a drug that doesn't get you high, no, you have nothing.

Getting high is kinda the point though.

When I smoke weed I'm in control of all my faculties, it's an enhancer for me.

When I take mushrooms I'm in control of all my faculties, shit looks trippy but I am aware that the grass isn't actually breathing.

Being sober is awesome and I would never work high or on shrooms, but that doesn't change the fact that being high is awesome too.

We get it, drugs are not for you, but it doesn't make me less intelligent because I enjoy doing them.


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
it doesn't make me less intelligent because I enjoy doing them.
It does though
How?


 
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I could just as easily say you're a moron if you need video games to enjoy your life.
But you'd be right.

The burden of proof is on you, you're the one making the positive claim. You have yet to demonstrate to me why is being sober is the best fucking thing in the universe.
Because you're not high. You're in control of your faculties. You can think straight. You can see everything the way it is. You can fucking drive. You're not up in the clouds, thinking about dumb meaningless bullshit. You're not wasting time, and if you are, at least you have the conscious choice of wasting time--when you're high, that's your only option.

"Getting high isn't stupid; it's fun" is a positive claim too, guy. You have to prove that.


 
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When I smoke weed I'm in control of all my faculties, it's an enhancer for me.
Needing drugs to work at full capacity is pretty pathetic, bro.


 
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I could just as easily say you're a moron if you need video games to enjoy your life.
But you'd be right.

The burden of proof is on you, you're the one making the positive claim. You have yet to demonstrate to me why is being sober is the best fucking thing in the universe.
Because you're not high. You're in control of your faculties. You can think straight. You can see everything the way it is. You can fucking drive. You're not up in the clouds, thinking about dumb meaningless bullshit. You're not wasting time, and if you are, at least you have the conscious choice of wasting time--when you're high, that's your only option.

"Getting high isn't stupid; it's fun" is a positive claim too, guy. You have to prove that.
You can't prove something that's not falsifiable. Fun is subjective. I'd hold personal enjoyment over not wasting time any day. And who cares if you see everything the way it is? Clearheadedness can be boring and dull sometimes. Nothing can relieve that except getting high. You have yet to show why thinking completely straight is always a good thing.