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More Than Mortal · December 20, 2014, 02:13:10 PM

Quote from: challengerX on December 20, 2014, 02:08:32 PM

Apart from that, it's insulting to those of us who were and/or are poor for him to say that while he has a garage full of super cars. What the fuck does he know about "living a fabulous life on minimum wage" if he's never experienced living a life off minimum wage?

I'm not concerned with whether or not he's experienced it; that doesn't disqualify him from being right. If he were to say something like "It's possible for British working-class single mothers to put kids into private school" without experiencing that, I know he'd still be correct.

I don't agree with his point, I just think his wealth has nothing to do with him being correct. Perhaps it has a bearing on him being wrong, but it needn't be brought up.

challengerX · December 20, 2014, 02:31:10 PM

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More Than Mortal · December 20, 2014, 02:32:06 PM

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He isn't correct though. You can't live a "fabulous life" on minimum wage in America at all. You can't even live a good life. And to top it off, he says all this while having a bunch of super cars.

I'm not saying he is correct. I'm saying his wealth shouldn't be an issue. If you think he's wrong - fine, then say so. But I don't think the fact that he drives expensive cars needs to be an issue of the debate.

God · December 20, 2014, 02:33:47 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 20, 2014, 02:13:10 PM

Perhaps it has a bearing on him being wrong, but it needn't be brought up.

Considering that he seems to be clueless on the subject that is likely the case. I think some people were just insulted that someone could be so ignorant about life and just immediately assumed his wealth was the reason for it, not the other way around like you suggested.

More Than Mortal · December 20, 2014, 02:34:44 PM

Quote from: God on December 20, 2014, 02:33:47 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 20, 2014, 02:13:10 PM
Perhaps it has a bearing on him being wrong, but it needn't be brought up.

Considering that he seems to be clueless on the subject that is likely the case. I think some people were just insulted that someone could be so ignorant about life and just immediately assumed his wealth was the reason for it, not the other way around like you suggested.

No, that's exactly what I'm criticising. . .

challengerX · December 20, 2014, 02:34:51 PM

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More Than Mortal · December 20, 2014, 02:37:34 PM

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He isn't correct though. You can't live a "fabulous life" on minimum wage in America at all. You can't even live a good life. And to top it off, he says all this while having a bunch of super cars.
I'm not saying he is correct. I'm saying his wealth shouldn't be an issue. If you think he's wrong - fine, then say so. But I don't think the fact that he drives expensive cars needs to be an issue of the debate.
It's relevant to the point he's trying to make. I'm bringing it up because it's insulting to those of us who have been and/or are poor. Not only is he wrong, he's saying shit he's never experienced.

And that's fine, but it isn't necessarily his fault he's naive and wealthy. If you want to bring it up, then fine. But it just comes across like you're bashing him for being wealthy as opposed to being ignorant. That's my only problem here.

His wealth, while perhaps contributory, shouldn't be a point of criticism itself.

challengerX · December 20, 2014, 02:53:10 PM

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Naoto · December 20, 2014, 02:57:39 PM

dis argument doe <.<

Dopameme · December 20, 2014, 03:17:03 PM

Hey there, Verb, I know that there's a great chance that you'll probably ignore this post since you have me muted and you dislike me, but hear me out. Fuck all of the people in the STEM circlejerk who put others down for their interests. If you love to write, and you believe you have legitimate talent, then by all means go for it. If you're really good at what you do and you stay persistent with your goals, the money will come. Sure, you might have to bounce around minimum wage jobs for a few years, but it's not like that's so uncommon among people at this age. What a lot of STEM majors need to understand is that they are NOT guaranteed a job just because of their major, they have to actually be good at what they do and be skilled enough to get the big-money jobs that pay $100k+/year.

Personal happiness should be the #1 goal, in my opinion.

Naru · December 20, 2014, 05:23:14 PM

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You can only live on minimum wage if you live in bumfuck nowhere. If you live in a city of any significant size, it's impossible to live on.

I wouldn't say impossible, it very much is possible, but holy hell, you'll need some raises and work double overtime.

Ushan · December 20, 2014, 05:34:58 PM

I can respect that.

aREALgod · December 20, 2014, 06:22:42 PM

Yeah, STEM elitists are cancer. Acting like being any sort of STEM means you're the savior of the "average joe". At least what I do has a direct impact on people's lives, minus the pedestal praise and arrogance.

Tyger · December 20, 2014, 06:23:53 PM

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Yeah, STEM elitists are cancer. Acting like being any sort of STEM means you're the savior of the "average joe". At least what I do has a direct impact on people's lives, minus the pedestal praise and arrogance.

So doctors actions don't have a lasting effect on people's lives?

Verbatim · December 20, 2014, 06:24:13 PM

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Tyger · December 20, 2014, 06:25:51 PM

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Wrong

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aREALgod · December 20, 2014, 06:28:32 PM

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Yeah, STEM elitists are cancer. Acting like being any sort of STEM means you're the savior of the "average joe". At least what I do has a direct impact on people's lives, minus the pedestal praise and arrogance.
So doctors actions don't have a lasting effect on people's lives?

Where did I ever say that?

rC · December 20, 2014, 06:30:00 PM

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Tyger · December 20, 2014, 06:30:46 PM

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Yeah, STEM elitists are cancer. Acting like being any sort of STEM means you're the savior of the "average joe". At least what I do has a direct impact on people's lives, minus the pedestal praise and arrogance.
So doctors actions don't have a lasting effect on people's lives?

Where did I ever say that?

"At least what I do has a direct impact on people's lives"

Literally every occupation, and therefor major, that I can think of has a direct impact on people's lives. Doctor is just the first stem thing I thought of

Tyger · December 20, 2014, 06:31:18 PM

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Mad because you're wrong

Verbatim · December 20, 2014, 06:31:42 PM

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i'm allowed

Tyger · December 20, 2014, 06:31:46 PM

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Fucking rekt

Verbatim · December 20, 2014, 06:32:10 PM

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challengerX · December 20, 2014, 06:33:28 PM

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rC · December 20, 2014, 06:33:31 PM

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No, you're not.

aREALgod · December 20, 2014, 06:33:47 PM

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Yeah, STEM elitists are cancer. Acting like being any sort of STEM means you're the savior of the "average joe". At least what I do has a direct impact on people's lives, minus the pedestal praise and arrogance.
So doctors actions don't have a lasting effect on people's lives?

Where did I ever say that?

"At least what I do has a direct impact on people's lives"

Literally every occupation, and therefor major, that I can think of has a direct impact on people's lives. Doctor is just the first stem thing I thought of

I mean what I do literally effects the life of a person, and not indirectly through some major. I'm a certified EMT-B.

Verbatim · December 20, 2014, 06:33:59 PM

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No, you're not.

yep, i am

rC · December 20, 2014, 06:35:01 PM

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No, you're not.
yep, i am

Why? Because you think that you're a good writer?

lol

Tyger · December 20, 2014, 06:35:39 PM

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Allegedly! I was never convicted, that's ignorant.