Why do people give Pope Francis so much credit?

Anonymous (User Deleted) · February 06, 2015, 06:14:31 PM

The press especially likes to make a big deal out of whatever minor thing he decides to do. 'Oh, Pope Francis says "who am I to judge" gay people, look how progressive he is!' Meanwhile, he's still supporting referendums against gay marriage.

What has Pope Francis actually done to warrant such praise? What policies of the church have changed since he became Pope? Just because he's a bit nicer about the shit he says doesn't mean anything different is actually happening in the long run.

Thoughts?

Mr. Psychologist · February 06, 2015, 06:53:38 PM

I think it's more because he represents a more progressive shift in Catholic ideology. I'm not expecting it to change overnight, but it would be nice to see things get less... well... catholic.

DAS B00T x2 · February 06, 2015, 07:12:41 PM

Because slightly less shit > shit

Assassin 11D7 · February 06, 2015, 08:18:07 PM

It is not in line with their theology to support the marriage of two people of the same sex in the eyes of God.

Expecting that to change is really just dumb on your part.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · February 06, 2015, 08:35:32 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 06, 2015, 08:18:07 PM

It is not in line with their theology to support the marriage of two people of the same sex in the eyes of God.

Expecting that to change is really just dumb on your part.

I'm not expecting that.

Assassin 11D7 · February 06, 2015, 08:37:43 PM

Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 08:35:32 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 06, 2015, 08:18:07 PM
It is not in line with their theology to support the marriage of two people of the same sex in the eyes of God.

Expecting that to change is really just dumb on your part.
I'm not expecting that.

So, what would you expect that he hasn't done?

He doesn't look like Emperor Palpatine, he's been much kinder about gays, he's been kinder about atheists. What else is there?

Anonymous (User Deleted) · February 06, 2015, 08:46:24 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 06, 2015, 08:37:43 PM

Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 08:35:32 PM
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 06, 2015, 08:18:07 PM
It is not in line with their theology to support the marriage of two people of the same sex in the eyes of God.

Expecting that to change is really just dumb on your part.
I'm not expecting that.
So, what would you expect that he hasn't done?

He doesn't look like Emperor Palpatine, he's been much kinder about gays, he's been kinder about atheists. What else is there?

Policy changes... as implied in the OP.

HaloK1LL3R M16A4 · February 06, 2015, 11:03:41 PM

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Comet · February 07, 2015, 06:03:52 PM

he has a good PR guy

Nascent Email · February 07, 2015, 10:56:43 PM

The current pope is a heretic. It's truly a shame the inquisition wasn't around to punish him for his sins.

cuneif · February 08, 2015, 08:30:15 AM

Quote from: Kupo on February 06, 2015, 06:14:31 PM

The press especially likes to make a big deal out of whatever minor thing he decides to do. 'Oh, Pope Francis says "who am I to judge" gay people, look how progressive he is!' Meanwhile, he's still supporting referendums against gay marriage.

What has Pope Francis actually done to warrant such praise? What policies of the church have changed since he became Pope? Just because he's a bit nicer about the shit he says doesn't mean anything different is actually happening in the long run.

Thoughts?

People just give him credit because he's our pope just like our predecessors Including Pope Benedict XVI, Pope John Paul, to Peter.

Turkey · February 08, 2015, 09:20:07 AM

He's largely been supporting the same progressive policies we've seen from the Vatican for the past few decades, it's just that the press has framed him as a revolutionary and people these days feel no need to verify what they read.

Destati · February 08, 2015, 11:46:36 PM

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Maxine · February 10, 2015, 12:32:49 AM

Because he's great at his job. He presents the doctrine of the Catholic Church in a more accessible way, without changing the doctrine itself.

Word Wizard · February 10, 2015, 10:28:16 AM

Quote from: Madmaxepic on February 10, 2015, 12:32:49 AM

Because he's great at his job. He presents the doctrine of the Catholic Church in a more accessible way, without changing the doctrine itself.

Seems like those doctrines are pretty flimsy if you can get opposite view points from the same text.

slayingold · February 10, 2015, 10:42:11 AM

He's pretty chill from the sounds of it, he said that he would baptize aliens if they visited and that all pets go to heaven.

Maxine · February 10, 2015, 11:24:46 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 10, 2015, 10:28:16 AM

Quote from: Madmaxepic on February 10, 2015, 12:32:49 AM
Because he's great at his job. He presents the doctrine of the Catholic Church in a more accessible way, without changing the doctrine itself.
Seems like those doctrines are pretty flimsy if you can get opposite view points from the same text.

if by flimsy you mean infallible