Why are liberals so condescending?

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
An obviously provocative title, which of course doesn't apply to all (and perhaps not even most) liberals, but there seems to be this irritating trend among modern/social/progressive liberals to be ridiculously condescending and dismissive of people who don't agree with them. Most of my evidence for this is anecdotal (although there's a connection with liberals' recent over-representation in academia somewhere), but to illustrate this allow me to share part of a post from the "Being Liberal" facebook page:

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JB) Yes, people living in red states are actually this stupid. [in reference to a news story]

(W) EDIT: We apologize to all the liberal, smart people who, for whatever reasons, live in the red states as a minority. We acknowledge that it's tough to live blue in red states, and we salute you for having to deal with your neighbors daily! The comments following Beth Stoneman's thread below rightfully indicated that our lede, indeed can be read as an inflammatory generalization. We promise to get better, and avoid those... but can you please, ramp up you efforts on educating your neighbors?


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I have no idea, and I'm glad I'm not the only one  who noticed. I get brushed off all the time because I rarely agree politically with people here. I try to give them a chance and hear them out, but it's all just character attacks, like that I'm dumb or not worth discussing with.


 
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Nice confirmation bias. You get the same shit from conservatives, libertarians, and just about every ideology out there be it political, religious, or otherwise all the time as well. People being condescending wankers isn't exclusive or even a "trend" to anything.


 
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This forum does the same thing to liberals.


 
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What LC said.

Generally, being right about social issues is pretty cool, and we reserve the right to be as pompous as we please about it.

This thread isn't even Serious worthy.


 
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Dank memes coming through.
Liberals also seem to be more racist than conservatives, considering reddittards were calling blacks stupid for voting hillary instead of Bernie "gibs me free shit" Sanders.


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Every political party has people that are like that or ones that are similar... 


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I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.


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>Two wrongs make a right

Wew lad.

I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.


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It's something I've noticed as well. The Conservative and Libertarian will call you an idiot and try to prove you wrong but the Leftist will call you an idiot and try to act like your opinion isn't even worth discussing.

I even notice it around here. Most of the users I'm thinking of don't post here very often but they're always left-leaning.


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>Two wrongs make a right

Wew lad.

I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.
I never said one was right, I was saying one is less shitty.

I thought Republicans hated all that "muh feelz" shit from the SJW-left. Why do they care about people being condescending?


 
 
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SJW's use feelings as a point in their arguments, "Duh Feelz" people are complaining about in this thread is using them to end an argument with no points having yet be made.

I thought Republicans hated all that "muh feelz" shit from the SJW-left. Why do they care about people being condescending?


 
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Nice confirmation bias. You get the same shit from conservatives, libertarians, and just about every ideology out there be it political, religious, or otherwise all the time as well. People being condescending wankers isn't exclusive or even a "trend" to anything.
Pretty much this

I've seen it across all fields


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Yeah, bro, have you ever heard me talk to an anti-gunner who isn't Flee?
I'm assuming that's some sort of hidden compliment?
Yeah.
I'm used to dealing with ban happy "no scary black rife pls" libbies who know as much about firearms (and firearm safety) as Senator De Leon , and I'm pretty condescending and dismissive to them.

But you.
You make sense and actually look at numbers.


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I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Nice confirmation bias.
Gee, LC, it's almost like you don't know me at all.

It's not like I haven't already thought of this, and still think its a tendency liberals/progressives display to a greater degree. As I said in the OP, my evidence is anecdotal--I could be entirely wrong. But in my experience conservatives don't really consider liberals as quite literally on a lower level than themselves, whereas this--and incredulity that others could think in such a manner--seems true when flipped around.

Maybe it's because my experience of other conservatives is limited mainly to British conservatives, but then I don't see why British conservatives should be exempt from this. And, if anything, vitriol towards conservatives is even greater here. Fuck, there's even a name for it: it's called the Shy Tory Factor.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.
Thanks for proving my point.



 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Also, as a follow up to LC, conservatives understand liberals better than vice versa. A disparity does exist, and hand-waving it away as confirmation bias without further thought isn't particularly persuasive as a method of convincing me I'm wrong.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Nice confirmation bias. You get the same shit from conservatives, libertarians, and just about every ideology out there be it political, religious, or otherwise all the time as well. People being condescending wankers isn't exclusive or even a "trend" to anything.
Pretty much this

I've seen it across all fields
And I refer you to my two responses to LC.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

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I wouldn't really treat Facebook groups as a good source (you could pull up the same shit from any party or group affiliation page, same as those "1 like/1 prayer" bullshit pages), but I see your point having been on the recieving end in-person.

I say there's a bias because the left "progressive" viewpoint is easy to follow with little thought compared to some conservatives in the same age range.

Pickup a newspaper and become leftist, or read one of these shitposts from facebook and bam, you supposedly have a political opinion. At least conservatives at this age (20's) have to know stuff because it's harder to defend the minority viewpoint without some solid reasons and a few facts thrown in compared to the basic opinion of "equal rights for everyone" and no thought how to implement it other than bitching about it (this is not strictly a liberal viewpoint, but it's apparent that some believe that's all you need to go as far as to consider themselves one).

This might be a bit of a ramble, but it's 4am. Hope that came together as something rational.
Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 10:16:03 PM by PsygnI


 
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Nice confirmation bias.
Gee, LC, it's almost like you don't know me at all.

It's not like I haven't already thought of this, and still think its a tendency liberals/progressives display to a greater degree. As I said in the OP, my evidence is anecdotal--I could be entirely wrong. But in my experience conservatives don't really consider liberals as quite literally on a lower level than themselves, whereas this--and incredulity that others could think in such a manner--seems true when flipped around.

Maybe it's because my experience of other conservatives is limited mainly to British conservatives, but then I don't see why British conservatives should be exempt from this. And, if anything, vitriol towards conservatives is even greater here. Fuck, there's even a name for it: it's called the Shy Tory Factor.

You already thinking of confirmation bias doesn't mean that it isn't in play. You're only noticing it more because you're on the receiving end of it, just as many liberals will cry the same about conservatives dismissing their views under the pretense of "if you only knew better you'd think like me".

In case you aren't aware the same is true in the UK for the opposite side of the spectrum and it's called the Shy Labour Factor. It seems that lying about who you're going to vote for might not be exclusive to either conservatives or liberals where you live.

I'd also be a bit wary with Haidt, he's been criticized for creating agenda driven studies in the past. If we're going to start doing studies I'd like to see multiple studies from sources who aren't agenda driven before we come to any conclusions.





If you take a look at your posts here though you're engaging in the exact same behavior you're deriding liberals for.

"Oh the ideology of liberals is easy to follow and requires so little thought"

"Oh conservatives are so much know so much more than those liberals because they have the minority opinion"

"Oh all you need to become a liberal is to bitch about something and have no thoughts or ideas on how to implement them"

The fact that Trump seems to be pretty popular among a certain segment of American conservatives should show you that at least in the US that the above accusations you're making of liberals hold true for conservatives as well.

Then again these are your 4 am thoughts and you're mostly familiar with the political climate in the UK which may or may not be different than what exists in the US.
Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 10:38:53 PM by LC


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I think it's more an issue of aggressive liberals being given platform still while aggressive conservatives have been relegated to your grandpa's facebook posts. Aggressiveness is inevitable when things are so polarized. The eventual push-back on left-aggression is growing, evidenced by Trump's base.


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I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.
Thanks for proving my point.
Except nothing I said was wrong. The Republican party is the party of restricting rights and freedoms.


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I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.
Thanks for proving my point.
Except nothing I said was wrong. The Republican party is the party of restricting rights and freedoms.
We could talk about why that is objectively not true, but then you'd just accuse Republicans of allowing too many dangerous rights and freedoms.

Instead I'm going to ask you why rights and freedoms matter.
Please remind me which party wants to overturn the SCOTUS rulings on Roe v Wade and Obergefell v Hodges. Please remind me which party cut the Voting Rights Act? Remind me which party wants to require ID to vote.

Oh right, not the Democrats.

At least Democrats don't have the gall to claim to be the party of liberty and freedom while acting directly against those values.

Rights and freedoms matter because that's the foundation of our country. We are not longer the United States of America if we turn away from rights and freedoms.
Last Edit: March 29, 2016, 10:51:58 PM by Mad Max


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ITT Liberals get butthurt and prove OP right.


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I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.

I'm not even sure what this means. Is this a meme?