Who here has had suicidal thoughts lately?

SecondClass · February 01, 2016, 04:19:54 PM

Jc

What did you do/what are you doing to get over it?

Ender · February 01, 2016, 04:27:35 PM

I don't.

maverick · February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PM

I haven't had suicidal thoughts in almost six years but you gotta watch a comedy movie to get your mind off of it, convince yourself that your life is worthwhile, and realize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.

SecondClass · February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PM

Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PM

realize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.

what a worthless platitude

More Than Mortal · February 01, 2016, 04:53:07 PM

Currently undergoing an assessment period to be green-lit for therapy.

Mr. Psychologist · February 01, 2016, 05:16:28 PM

eh not for a year and a bit now

they kinda just faded away after I'd been on ADMs for a while and been to see a shrink

When they were still pressing in my head though, I just played battlefield to take my mind off it.

All I can really recommend is seeing a professional about it, if they are persisting for a month or so then speak to your doctor and see what they suggest. Which would likely boil down to either a referral to a counsellor/psych or ADMs, if you can I'd go with the first of those two options, it's better in the long run.

Elai · February 01, 2016, 05:22:29 PM

Not really. I already know when I'm going to kill myself.

Don't get it twisted tho, I feel like shit.

challengerX · February 01, 2016, 05:27:35 PM

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Naru · February 01, 2016, 05:37:34 PM

i dont think ive ever had any thoughts like that. maybe like, joking around, but serious? not that i remember.

SecondClass · February 01, 2016, 05:39:44 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 01, 2016, 05:16:28 PM

eh not for a year and a bit now

they kinda just faded away after I'd been on ADMs for a while and been to see a shrink

When they were still pressing in my head though, I just played battlefield to take my mind off it.

All I can really recommend is seeing a professional about it, if they are persisting for a month or so then speak to your doctor and see what they suggest. Which would likely boil down to either a referral to a counsellor/psych or ADMs, if you can I'd go with the first of those two options, it's better in the long run.

Antidepressants are only for if you have clinical depression, though. And therapists are overrated IMO, only so much stuff can be helped by talking about it.

Azumarill · February 01, 2016, 05:47:04 PM

the thought crosses my mind a lot but i never seriously entertain it.

Mr. Psychologist · February 01, 2016, 05:48:36 PM

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 05:39:44 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 01, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
eh not for a year and a bit now

they kinda just faded away after I'd been on ADMs for a while and been to see a shrink

When they were still pressing in my head though, I just played battlefield to take my mind off it.

All I can really recommend is seeing a professional about it, if they are persisting for a month or so then speak to your doctor and see what they suggest. Which would likely boil down to either a referral to a counsellor/psych or ADMs, if you can I'd go with the first of those two options, it's better in the long run.
Antidepressants are only for if you have clinical depression, though. And therapists are overrated IMO, only so much stuff can be helped by talking about it.

Correct, if it's not clinical depression then it would be using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

As for therapists, it really depends on the type of therapist in question.
The sort where you lie on a couch and blather about your early years and how your daddy never hugged you -> for rich idiots who have to buy a friend.

Spoiler

Excessively cynical, maybe, but when I read about these psychodynamic motherfuckers who have a patient once a week for 4 years (200 x $50 = :DDD) with no improvement I get platinum mad.

However that isn't every kind of therapist, just unfortunately the most well known kind. The one that I'd generally recommend above most others is a Cognitive-behavioural therapist, because they work to a pretty tight focus of teaching you how to deal with the shit life throws.

That being said, if you feel it's more of a rough patch and you just need to find a way to get through it then yeah it might not be worth your time and money to go and see a shrink right off the bat.

If the thoughts get more frequent and severe though, or they don't go away after a couple of weeks then that would point more towards depression than a rough patch. If that becomes the case, I would strongly suggest you do at least speak to a GP about it.

Genghis Khan · February 01, 2016, 05:49:03 PM

Not until you brought this up.

Word Wizard · February 01, 2016, 05:56:13 PM

Daily. I just kind of accepted them. I try to change the perspective if they get too saddening.

Kiwicake · February 01, 2016, 06:03:07 PM

I think my anti depressants and my attempts to focus on other things in my life instead have been helping me with this a ton

I think I'm in a much better place than I used to be

DAS B00T x2 · February 01, 2016, 06:08:38 PM

I didn't do anything. Simply realized that I can live with myself and got over it.

Kitsune 狐 · February 01, 2016, 06:15:37 PM

I did when I was in high school and since my parents refused to get me professional help I started smoking pot. It actually really helped, but I also did a lot of research on tricks on how to change your outlook on life.

SecondClass · February 01, 2016, 06:37:35 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 01, 2016, 05:48:36 PM

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 01, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
eh not for a year and a bit now

they kinda just faded away after I'd been on ADMs for a while and been to see a shrink

When they were still pressing in my head though, I just played battlefield to take my mind off it.

All I can really recommend is seeing a professional about it, if they are persisting for a month or so then speak to your doctor and see what they suggest. Which would likely boil down to either a referral to a counsellor/psych or ADMs, if you can I'd go with the first of those two options, it's better in the long run.
Antidepressants are only for if you have clinical depression, though. And therapists are overrated IMO, only so much stuff can be helped by talking about it.
Correct, if it's not clinical depression then it would be using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

As for therapists, it really depends on the type of therapist in question.
The sort where you lie on a couch and blather about your early years and how your daddy never hugged you -> for rich idiots who have to buy a friend.
Spoiler
Excessively cynical, maybe, but when I read about these psychodynamic motherfuckers who have a patient once a week for 4 years (200 x $50 = :DDD) with no improvement I get platinum mad.

However that isn't every kind of therapist, just unfortunately the most well known kind. The one that I'd generally recommend above most others is a Cognitive-behavioural therapist, because they work to a pretty tight focus of teaching you how to deal with the shit life throws.

That being said, if you feel it's more of a rough patch and you just need to find a way to get through it then yeah it might not be worth your time and money to go and see a shrink right off the bat.

If the thoughts get more frequent and severe though, or they don't go away after a couple of weeks then that would point more towards depression than a rough patch. If that becomes the case, I would strongly suggest you do at least speak to a GP about it.

but depression is an actual condition

thinking seriously about suicide doesn't necessitate that

maverick · February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PM

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PM

Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PM
realize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.
what a worthless platitude

?

I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.

SecondClass · February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PM

Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PM

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PM
realize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.
what a worthless platitude
?

I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.

lmao

Some things literally can't be changed

maverick · February 01, 2016, 06:52:39 PM

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PM

Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PM
realize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.
what a worthless platitude
?

I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.
lmao

Some things literally can't be changed

Those things don't have to keep you down forever, though.

Mr. Psychologist · February 01, 2016, 07:17:51 PM

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:37:35 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 01, 2016, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on February 01, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
eh not for a year and a bit now

they kinda just faded away after I'd been on ADMs for a while and been to see a shrink

When they were still pressing in my head though, I just played battlefield to take my mind off it.

All I can really recommend is seeing a professional about it, if they are persisting for a month or so then speak to your doctor and see what they suggest. Which would likely boil down to either a referral to a counsellor/psych or ADMs, if you can I'd go with the first of those two options, it's better in the long run.
Antidepressants are only for if you have clinical depression, though. And therapists are overrated IMO, only so much stuff can be helped by talking about it.
Correct, if it's not clinical depression then it would be using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

As for therapists, it really depends on the type of therapist in question.
The sort where you lie on a couch and blather about your early years and how your daddy never hugged you -> for rich idiots who have to buy a friend.
Spoiler
Excessively cynical, maybe, but when I read about these psychodynamic motherfuckers who have a patient once a week for 4 years (200 x $50 = :DDD) with no improvement I get platinum mad.

However that isn't every kind of therapist, just unfortunately the most well known kind. The one that I'd generally recommend above most others is a Cognitive-behavioural therapist, because they work to a pretty tight focus of teaching you how to deal with the shit life throws.

That being said, if you feel it's more of a rough patch and you just need to find a way to get through it then yeah it might not be worth your time and money to go and see a shrink right off the bat.

If the thoughts get more frequent and severe though, or they don't go away after a couple of weeks then that would point more towards depression than a rough patch. If that becomes the case, I would strongly suggest you do at least speak to a GP about it.
but depression is an actual condition

thinking seriously about suicide doesn't necessitate that

You can argue that point either way really

Suicidal ideation is a strong part of the diagnostic criteria for depression, but you can be depressed without wanting to kill yourself and want to kill yourself without being depressed.

As a rule of thumb though, most cases of suicidal ideation will link to depression in some form.

But if you don't mind sharing, either on here or via PM, is there a particular reason for these thoughts?
Obviously you don't have to answer if you don't want to and you can just ignore this part if that's the case.

Thun · February 01, 2016, 07:58:20 PM

For the past couple of months they've been on OVERDRIVE

🂿 · February 01, 2016, 08:00:39 PM

I'm beginning to relapse back into it actually.

Edit: Did I just turn Mythic?

Batch · February 01, 2016, 08:58:44 PM

Nope never, got too much I want to do before I leave this place.

MyNameIsCharlie · February 01, 2016, 09:00:52 PM

I'm not gonna lie, it was touch and go there for a little while.

Yu · February 01, 2016, 10:56:02 PM

Been having them since summer, I just let it pass, even if I entertain the idea.

Winy · February 01, 2016, 11:07:06 PM

I don't think I've ever seriously considered killing myself before.

I mean I've experienced some shitty times very rarely where I say to myself, "Y'know, sort of wish I wasn't alive for this," but the feelings pass quickly enough for me to get back to my normal, sane mentality. Emotional blockage is really the only thing that could ever make me entertain the thought of taking my own life.

🂿 · February 01, 2016, 11:28:44 PM

Yep I'm relapsing.

I've been thinking about it this past hour.

SecondClass · February 01, 2016, 11:29:31 PM

Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:52:39 PM

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: ThirdClass on February 01, 2016, 04:27:43 PM
realize that your problems are nothing that can't be overcome.
what a worthless platitude
?

I would say most young peoples' problems are nothing that can't be fixed by bringing about some sort of change. If you're not willing to do that, then the thoughts will probably keep coming back.
lmao

Some things literally can't be changed
Those things don't have to keep you down forever, though.

you're just full of idiomatic lines, aren't you