Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:39:25 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMGood one? You have an actual argument, or no?I don't know, do you have an actual argument that isn't just you channelling your degenerate sexual fetishes into a serious discussion?
Quote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMGood one? You have an actual argument, or no?
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PM
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:40:28 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:39:15 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMPlease whine some more. It's a biased system, but that's justified. Women who are raising a kid need that money a lot more than some newly bacholered guy.You realize its quite common for the court to make the man pay child support even when he's raising the child the majority of the time?Except it's not. The person who has the kid the majority of the time should get the alimony, and that's usually (rightfully) the mother.My uncle who is divorced and raises his son 5 days a week all the way from the time of the divorce until his son turned 18 had to pay the mother $2000 a month in child support when she was only keeping him for 2 days a week. He still had to even when he got older and didn't go to his mom's at all any more. This bitch didn't even have a job and purely lived off the child support money. He went to court multiple times and guess what? Not a damn thing happened. You can sit here and cuck for women all you want but the court is one sided for no good reason you dumb illiterate fuck.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:39:15 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMPlease whine some more. It's a biased system, but that's justified. Women who are raising a kid need that money a lot more than some newly bacholered guy.You realize its quite common for the court to make the man pay child support even when he's raising the child the majority of the time?Except it's not. The person who has the kid the majority of the time should get the alimony, and that's usually (rightfully) the mother.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMPlease whine some more. It's a biased system, but that's justified. Women who are raising a kid need that money a lot more than some newly bacholered guy.You realize its quite common for the court to make the man pay child support even when he's raising the child the majority of the time?
Please whine some more. It's a biased system, but that's justified. Women who are raising a kid need that money a lot more than some newly bacholered guy.
I don't even know why I take your shitty bait anymore
Quote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:42:45 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:39:25 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMGood one? You have an actual argument, or no?I don't know, do you have an actual argument that isn't just you channelling your degenerate sexual fetishes into a serious discussion?What the fuck? This has nothing to do with me. It has to do with what's right. Get over yourself.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:44:02 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:42:45 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:39:25 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMGood one? You have an actual argument, or no?I don't know, do you have an actual argument that isn't just you channelling your degenerate sexual fetishes into a serious discussion?What the fuck? This has nothing to do with me. It has to do with what's right. Get over yourself.It's pretty rich for you to accuse me of not providing an argument when all you do in discussions is haphazardly attack the sources, fumble around like a retard who forgot his point, then drop out of the discourse altogether.But I'll humour you.Why in the everloving fuck do you believe it is acceptable for one spouse to shell out half his earnings that the other partner had nothing to do with? She wasn't involved in his business dealings. She had nothing contributory to provide that automatically entitles her to such astronomical amounts of money.And no, the "he can afford it" argument isn't going to cut it. Proportionality is irrelevant. Stealing is stealing no matter how you look at it.But go on. Tell me why she deserves such gratuitous amounts of money because she happened to be sucking his dick once in a blue moon.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:48:21 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:45:14 PMI don't even know why I take your shitty bait anymoreThis is rich coming from the guy who literally thinks Hitler was an international heroThis is rich coming from the guy who cucks and shills for every race and gender but his own.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:45:14 PMI don't even know why I take your shitty bait anymoreThis is rich coming from the guy who literally thinks Hitler was an international hero
Quote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:49:49 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:44:02 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:42:45 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:39:25 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:38:52 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:37:00 PMGood one? You have an actual argument, or no?I don't know, do you have an actual argument that isn't just you channelling your degenerate sexual fetishes into a serious discussion?What the fuck? This has nothing to do with me. It has to do with what's right. Get over yourself.It's pretty rich for you to accuse me of not providing an argument when all you do in discussions is haphazardly attack the sources, fumble around like a retard who forgot his point, then drop out of the discourse altogether.But I'll humour you.Why in the everloving fuck do you believe it is acceptable for one spouse to shell out half his earnings that the other partner had nothing to do with? She wasn't involved in his business dealings. She had nothing contributory to provide that automatically entitles her to such astronomical amounts of money.And no, the "he can afford it" argument isn't going to cut it. Proportionality is irrelevant. Stealing is stealing no matter how you look at it.But go on. Tell me why she deserves such gratuitous amounts of money because she happened to be sucking his dick once in a blue moon.Because that's the whole point of marriage. Once you agree to a non-prenuptial marriage, you stop being two different people and start being one. That's literally why it was invented. If you have a problem with this, get a prenup. Simple as that. It's not stealing, because you consented to the deal.
I never contested that.What I take issue with is how ridiculously biased alimony is towards women. By all means, pay child support and a little leeway money for her to get back on her feet and start providing for herself and the child/children. It should not however, be used as a means to funnel ridiculous amounts of cash into her pocket just because she used to be under a contract with him that the state shouldn't even be involved with anyway.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:53:39 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:49:04 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:48:21 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:45:14 PMI don't even know why I take your shitty bait anymoreThis is rich coming from the guy who literally thinks Hitler was an international heroThis is rich coming from the guy who cucks and shills for every race and gender but his own.Nice buzzwords. I like white people just as much as I like Jews and Asians. Women are better than men, though, I'll give you that. And that has nothing to do with any fetish I have, unlike what Mordo will die trying to prove.It clearly is that or you really are a closet tranny. I'm thinking the latter.
Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:49:04 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:48:21 PMQuote from: SoporificSlash on October 14, 2015, 02:45:14 PMI don't even know why I take your shitty bait anymoreThis is rich coming from the guy who literally thinks Hitler was an international heroThis is rich coming from the guy who cucks and shills for every race and gender but his own.Nice buzzwords. I like white people just as much as I like Jews and Asians. Women are better than men, though, I'll give you that. And that has nothing to do with any fetish I have, unlike what Mordo will die trying to prove.
Quote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:57:04 PMI never contested that.What I take issue with is how ridiculously biased alimony is towards women. By all means, pay child support and a little leeway money for her to get back on her feet and start providing for herself and the child/children. It should not however, be used as a means to funnel ridiculous amounts of cash into her pocket just because she used to be under a contract with him that the state shouldn't even be involved with anyway.Whoever has custody should get alimony until the kid turns 18. Just because it's usually the mother doesn't mean that the system is broken.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:58:18 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:57:04 PMI never contested that.What I take issue with is how ridiculously biased alimony is towards women. By all means, pay child support and a little leeway money for her to get back on her feet and start providing for herself and the child/children. It should not however, be used as a means to funnel ridiculous amounts of cash into her pocket just because she used to be under a contract with him that the state shouldn't even be involved with anyway.Whoever has custody should get alimony until the kid turns 18. Just because it's usually the mother doesn't mean that the system is broken.Well clearly it is when women can extort men for such stupendous amounts of money that she doesn't deserve nor need.
Quote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:58:18 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:57:04 PMI never contested that.What I take issue with is how ridiculously biased alimony is towards women. By all means, pay child support and a little leeway money for her to get back on her feet and start providing for herself and the child/children. It should not however, be used as a means to funnel ridiculous amounts of cash into her pocket just because she used to be under a contract with him that the state shouldn't even be involved with anyway.Whoever has custody should get alimony until the kid turns 18. Just because it's usually the mother doesn't mean that the system is broken.Well clearly it is when women can extort men for such stupendous amounts of money that she doesn't deserve nor need.No system is perfect, but I'd rather have the parent who's raising the child have too much money than not enough. Gender doesn't matter. If the mother was a rich businesswoman and the father was the one who stayed with the kid before the divorce and got custody of it afterward, then the mother would obviously be the one to pay alimony until the kid is 18. Unfortunately though, in our society, the roles are usually reversed.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 03:04:30 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:58:18 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:57:04 PMI never contested that.What I take issue with is how ridiculously biased alimony is towards women. By all means, pay child support and a little leeway money for her to get back on her feet and start providing for herself and the child/children. It should not however, be used as a means to funnel ridiculous amounts of cash into her pocket just because she used to be under a contract with him that the state shouldn't even be involved with anyway.Whoever has custody should get alimony until the kid turns 18. Just because it's usually the mother doesn't mean that the system is broken.Well clearly it is when women can extort men for such stupendous amounts of money that she doesn't deserve nor need.No system is perfect, but I'd rather have the parent who's raising the child have too much money than not enough. Gender doesn't matter. If the mother was a rich businesswoman and the father was the one who stayed with the kid before the divorce and got custody of it afterward, then the mother would obviously be the one to pay alimony until the kid is 18. Unfortunately though, in our society, the roles are usually reversed.So you think women should be treated like infants with no agency then? She's a woman, so that automatically renders her unable to adequately provide for the children therefore the man has to take care of everything financially?God fucking damn, I wish you progressives could see just how ironically sexist and racist you really all are.
Quote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 03:08:52 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 03:04:30 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 03:02:14 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 02:58:18 PMQuote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 02:57:04 PMI never contested that.What I take issue with is how ridiculously biased alimony is towards women. By all means, pay child support and a little leeway money for her to get back on her feet and start providing for herself and the child/children. It should not however, be used as a means to funnel ridiculous amounts of cash into her pocket just because she used to be under a contract with him that the state shouldn't even be involved with anyway.Whoever has custody should get alimony until the kid turns 18. Just because it's usually the mother doesn't mean that the system is broken.Well clearly it is when women can extort men for such stupendous amounts of money that she doesn't deserve nor need.No system is perfect, but I'd rather have the parent who's raising the child have too much money than not enough. Gender doesn't matter. If the mother was a rich businesswoman and the father was the one who stayed with the kid before the divorce and got custody of it afterward, then the mother would obviously be the one to pay alimony until the kid is 18. Unfortunately though, in our society, the roles are usually reversed.So you think women should be treated like infants with no agency then? She's a woman, so that automatically renders her unable to adequately provide for the children therefore the man has to take care of everything financially?God fucking damn, I wish you progressives could see just how ironically sexist and racist you really all are.What? I'm assuming the woman gets a job. But sometimes, even that isn't enough to raise a child. Tell me, why should the parent who doesn't have to buy shit for the kid on a daily basis get a get out of parenting free card just because he divorced the kid's mother? It's only fair that he provide for the child just as much as the one who's actually doing the hard work.
What...? They're synonymous....
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 03:12:44 PMWhat...? They're synonymous....Unfortunately not, no. Alimony is the subsidized amount of money given to the divorcee. Child support is well, child support.But continue to grasp the straws.
Quote from: Ronnie Pickering on October 14, 2015, 03:14:07 PMQuote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 03:12:44 PMWhat...? They're synonymous....Unfortunately not, no. Alimony is the subsidized amount of money given to the divorcee. Child support is well, child support.But continue to grasp the straws.Child support is given to the divorcee, too. The expectation is that she uses it to support her child.
I should probably research the topic before talking about it in the futureI literally thought alimony was just a different way to say child supportI'm dumb
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 14, 2015, 03:20:28 PMI should probably research the topic before talking about it in the futureI literally thought alimony was just a different way to say child supportI'm dumbyou also thought "straight-edge" just meant "whatever your grandmother wouldn't want you to do"you should probably research a LOT of things
What kind of alimony you want fam?
