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Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 03:05:47 AMWell so far I really am the ONLY person on this entire website that believes 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, and I will continue to believe that unless some new evidence pops up that can dismiss the conspiracy, and seeing how unlikely that's going to be, I'll believe that until the day I die.At least I know I'm not the only person on the internet, let alone the world that believes it was an inside job as well.Just on this site.If you honestly believe that the government had any role in executing the attacks of 9/11, then there's no evidence that will convince you otherwise. Not "new" evidence, not any of the extremely clear old evidence. You can (and in this case, do) have all the evidence in the world painting a clear picture (in this case, that Islamic extremists hijacked and crashed the planes), but all the evidence in the world can't overcome the mixture of stubbornness and stupidity that fuels conspiracy theories.
Well so far I really am the ONLY person on this entire website that believes 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, and I will continue to believe that unless some new evidence pops up that can dismiss the conspiracy, and seeing how unlikely that's going to be, I'll believe that until the day I die.At least I know I'm not the only person on the internet, let alone the world that believes it was an inside job as well.Just on this site.
And I believe, due to the evidence, that the pentagon was hit by a missile, there is no evidence of a plane crash.
I only have one question on my mind. If the government didn't do it at all, and everything they said was true, why did they take all the evidence from ground zero and destroy it? They wouldn't even allow any law enforcement to investigate the crime scene.
I've done enough research on the topic to be convinced there was a conspiracy of some sort.
tbh, not to call anyone out specifically, but 9/11 Truthers are probably the dumbest kinds of people in the fringe conspiracy community... maybe only beat by CHEMTRAILS, and this is coming from your resident "Sandy Hook never happened" guy.
Deci, do you think that the organization that took responsibility for the attacks was just lying? Do you think they were being paid off by the US government? Do you also think the rest of the world was in on it?
Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 11:31:22 PMQuote from: Ginger on June 08, 2016, 03:29:49 PMDeci, do you think that the organization that took responsibility for the attacks was just lying? Do you think they were being paid off by the US government? Do you also think the rest of the world was in on it?As I stated in the OP what I believe doesn't matter. That doesn't mean I'm going to change what I believe however.That is such a cop-out. What more evidence could you possibly need?
Quote from: Ginger on June 08, 2016, 03:29:49 PMDeci, do you think that the organization that took responsibility for the attacks was just lying? Do you think they were being paid off by the US government? Do you also think the rest of the world was in on it?As I stated in the OP what I believe doesn't matter. That doesn't mean I'm going to change what I believe however.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 09, 2016, 03:45:02 AMQuote from: Flee on June 09, 2016, 03:40:38 AMQuote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 11:31:22 PMQuote from: Ginger on June 08, 2016, 03:29:49 PMDeci, do you think that the organization that took responsibility for the attacks was just lying? Do you think they were being paid off by the US government? Do you also think the rest of the world was in on it?As I stated in the OP what I believe doesn't matter. That doesn't mean I'm going to change what I believe however.That is such a cop-out. What more evidence could you possibly need?Call it what you will, but that's just what I believe. I made this poll to see what the majority would vote, and I wasn't surprised with the results.Now we can continue to discuss this civilly, or we can have the thread locked.Just doesn't seem as if you want to discuss this at all, civilly or not. No amount of evidence or rock solid proof will ever be enough for someone who casually ignores it all and makes it very clear that virtually nothing is going to change his mind. Still, no need to lock this thread.
Quote from: Flee on June 09, 2016, 03:40:38 AMQuote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 11:31:22 PMQuote from: Ginger on June 08, 2016, 03:29:49 PMDeci, do you think that the organization that took responsibility for the attacks was just lying? Do you think they were being paid off by the US government? Do you also think the rest of the world was in on it?As I stated in the OP what I believe doesn't matter. That doesn't mean I'm going to change what I believe however.That is such a cop-out. What more evidence could you possibly need?Call it what you will, but that's just what I believe. I made this poll to see what the majority would vote, and I wasn't surprised with the results.Now we can continue to discuss this civilly, or we can have the thread locked.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 11:31:22 PMQuote from: Ginger on June 08, 2016, 03:29:49 PMDeci, do you think that the organization that took responsibility for the attacks was just lying? Do you think they were being paid off by the US government? Do you also think the rest of the world was in on it?As I stated in the OP what I believe doesn't matter. That doesn't mean I'm going to change what I believe however.Actually, what you believe does matter if your belief is based off of incorrect information. You should be willing to change your belief if you are given evidence to the contrary. Refusing to answer my question leads me to think that you haven't thought about it that much, as the events of 9/11 had a GLOBAL backlash. Governments from all over the world imposed restrictive sanctioning measures against the guilty party. Intelligence agencies independent of the US confirmed these things as well. As a young boy who knew and still knows nothing about engineering and physics, your assumption that the buildings should not have fallen as quickly or in the way they did is just false. The planes didn't crash into them and then they immediately collapsed: the south tower took nearly an hour to collapse, and the north tower took over 1.5 hours to collapse.So, if you are telling me that you think a large majority of the world also participated in this US conspiracy, then you are severely misguided. The fact that there were previous attempts on that target mean NOTHING. It was a symbol of American idealism, no shit they were targets. Refusing to believe evidence does not make you a free thinker, it makes you wrong. If you really reviewed the actual evidence, I think you would feel differently.
And you don't need to completely disregard the conspiracy theory, but you do need to put it into its proper context: as a conspiracy theory. Believing it was a conspiracy is tantamount to also assuming the rest of the world was in on it, which is just wrong. If you look at the measures the rest of the world went to to bring the accused to justice, you couldn't possibly believe it was a conspiracy.
You may not want to argue, but when you post what you did, you have to foresee the repercussions and accept that a discussion will occur.
As far as the conspiracy theory goes, I wouldn't say the rest of the world was in on it, but that's a whole separate mess I'd rather not get involved with.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 09, 2016, 04:56:55 AMAs far as the conspiracy theory goes, I wouldn't say the rest of the world was in on it, but that's a whole separate mess I'd rather not get involved with.You cannot ignore that aspect of it if you want to really review all of the facts. It is not a separate mess, but one that is linked to the main mess.That is all I have to say. <3 you Deci
Quote from: Mike on June 08, 2016, 12:55:59 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 03:05:47 AMWell so far I really am the ONLY person on this entire website that believes 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, and I will continue to believe that unless some new evidence pops up that can dismiss the conspiracy, and seeing how unlikely that's going to be, I'll believe that until the day I die.At least I know I'm not the only person on the internet, let alone the world that believes it was an inside job as well.Just on this site.If you honestly believe that the government had any role in executing the attacks of 9/11, then there's no evidence that will convince you otherwise. Not "new" evidence, not any of the extremely clear old evidence. You can (and in this case, do) have all the evidence in the world painting a clear picture (in this case, that Islamic extremists hijacked and crashed the planes), but all the evidence in the world can't overcome the mixture of stubbornness and stupidity that fuels conspiracy theories.I only have one question on my mind. If the government didn't do it at all, and everything they said was true, why did they take all the evidence from ground zero and destroy it? They wouldn't even allow any law enforcement to investigate the crime scene.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 02:52:05 PMQuote from: Mike on June 08, 2016, 12:55:59 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on June 08, 2016, 03:05:47 AMWell so far I really am the ONLY person on this entire website that believes 9/11 was an inside job by the US government, and I will continue to believe that unless some new evidence pops up that can dismiss the conspiracy, and seeing how unlikely that's going to be, I'll believe that until the day I die.At least I know I'm not the only person on the internet, let alone the world that believes it was an inside job as well.Just on this site.If you honestly believe that the government had any role in executing the attacks of 9/11, then there's no evidence that will convince you otherwise. Not "new" evidence, not any of the extremely clear old evidence. You can (and in this case, do) have all the evidence in the world painting a clear picture (in this case, that Islamic extremists hijacked and crashed the planes), but all the evidence in the world can't overcome the mixture of stubbornness and stupidity that fuels conspiracy theories.I only have one question on my mind. If the government didn't do it at all, and everything they said was true, why did they take all the evidence from ground zero and destroy it? They wouldn't even allow any law enforcement to investigate the crime scene.You mean why did the government move the gigantic pile of rubble out of the middle of New York City? Because it was a giant pile of rubble in the middle of New York City. Also, the NYPD did help with the investigation into 9/11. Like I said, conspiracy theories = stubbornness +stupidity.
Quote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 08, 2016, 10:20:34 PMtbh, not to call anyone out specifically, but 9/11 Truthers are probably the dumbest kinds of people in the fringe conspiracy community... maybe only beat by CHEMTRAILS, and this is coming from your resident "Sandy Hook never happened" guy.Nah, thinking Sandy Hook didn't happen is probably the most retarded opinion you can have.
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