Well, Boris Johnson just destroyed our constitution in one swift blow

 
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Brits who travel to Iraq or Syria will be arrested and presumed guilty on charges of terrorism.
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We also need to be far more effective in preventing British and other foreigners from getting out there…We need to make it crystal clear that you will be arrested if you go out to Syria or Iraq without a good reason. At present the police are finding it very difficult to stop people from simply flying out via Germany, crossing the border, doing their ghastly jihadi tourism, and coming back. The police can and do interview the returnees, but it is hard to press charges without evidence. The law needs a swift and minor change so that there is a “rebuttable presumption” that all those visiting war areas without notifying the authorities have done so for a terrorist purpose.

Yeah, fuck you habeas corpus.


 
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At first glance it really looks bad, but can you think of a reason why you would go to syria at the moment?
Or why it would be a reason that you can't tell the authorities first?

Or do we wait until these shitheads come back home and start more bombings?


 
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There's more Australians fighting for terrorist organizations than any other nation.

I didn't realise that the Koala Liberation Front was now a terrorist organisation <_<


 
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Boris isn't the only one to have done this.


Granted, the last one I know is from the 1820's when Lord Liverpool temporarily abolished the act during mass riots after the war with France, and even then that was considered oppressive...


...but still.


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Also, Britain has a constitution? Serious question.


 
 
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Also, Britain has a constitution? Serious question.

I don't think there is a single written document like the USA or France, but there are several acts/laws/documents that add up to one. Things like the Magna Carta IIRC.


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I don't see why you can't just blacklist certain conflict areas for travel, and only allow professional journalists to go.

This right here. Also because of the peculiarities of our constitution you can't really "destroy" it, merely go against the spirit of the constitution.


 
 
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Like most jurists, I much prefer a codified one as it's generally accepted to be generally better, clearer and to provide more stability, security and safeguards for the people's rights.
That was one of the reasons I used to be a liberal democrat.


 
 
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I'm not familiar enough with UK politics to know exactly what parties take what stance on certain legal issues. Libdems advocate introducing a codified constitution?
They did back in 2010. They were the only party pushing for serious constitutional reform.

They've sort of fallen out of favour with the general public now, though. Can't say I'm surprised.


 
 
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At first glance it really looks bad, but can you think of a reason why you would go to syria at the moment?
Or why it would be a reason that you can't tell the authorities first?

Or do we wait until these shitheads come back home and start more bombings?

dat slippery slope

A person can have multiple reasons to travel. Major one being is that it's their business to do so and not the business of anybody else, especially the government. What proof does a person have that some guy wanting to travel is a terrorist? There is none and all this shows is the government trying to restrict a person's free will and pass laws based on flawless concept to appealing towards emotion in order to better their retarded objectives


 
 
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dat slippery slope

A person can have multiple reasons to travel. Major one being is that it's their business to do so and not the business of anybody else, especially the government. What proof does a person have that some guy wanting to travel is a terrorist? There is none and all this shows is the government trying to restrict a person's free will and pass laws based on flawless concept to appealing towards emotion in order to better their retarded objectives

Slippery slope =/= hundreds of british citizens becoming battle hardened islamic militant psychopaths and then returning home when the war in syria is over.

Mhm, I'd rather that these fuckers all died over there but some will inevitably slip through the net. Presumption of guilt is a dangerous concept, no doubt about that. But when it's easily dispelled by registering/informing customs of your intent then it's not a big deal.

If you are going to be all secretive about why you want to travel to a warzone, then it's just down right suspicious and the government would be failing in their duty to protect the citizens of their country if they simply let people go there willy nilly.

It's not 'muh infringement of rights' when they introduce quarantine/scanners at airports for people who have visited a country with an ebola epidemic going on, it's common fucking sense.


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Slippery slope =/= hundreds of british citizens becoming battle hardened islamic militant psychopaths and then returning home when the war in syria is over.

Mhm, I'd rather that these fuckers all died over there but some will inevitably slip through the net. Presumption of guilt is a dangerous concept, no doubt about that. But when it's easily dispelled by registering/informing customs of your intent then it's not a big deal.

If you are going to be all secretive about why you want to travel to a warzone, then it's just down right suspicious and the government would be failing in their duty to protect the citizens of their country if they simply let people go there willy nilly.

It's not 'muh infringement of rights' when they introduce quarantine/scanners at airports for people who have visited a country with an ebola epidemic going on, it's common fucking sense.

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The actions of a few individuals doesn't represent the whole and it's fucking scary that some group of people think they have power to tell others where they can and can't travel to. People talk about how certain things is fear mongering yet these actions is what REAL fear mongering is; it's brain washing people into thinking that somebody wanting to keep things private is automatically a suspicious terrorist. It's no different than the thinking that people who oppose the NSA are suspicious. People have a natural right to privacy and it needs to be respected

Don't compare this to disease. That's just stupid. ANYBODY can get sick bit not anybody can be a terrorist


 
 
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"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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The actions of a few individuals doesn't represent the whole and it's fucking scary that some group of people think they have power to tell others where they can and can't travel to. People talk about how certain things is fear mongering yet these actions is what REAL fear mongering is; it's brain washing people into thinking that somebody wanting to keep things private is automatically a suspicious terrorist. It's no different than the thinking that people who oppose the NSA are suspicious. People have a natural right to privacy and it needs to be respected

Don't compare this to disease. That's just stupid. ANYBODY can get sick bit not anybody can be a terrorist
This is hilarious when you factor in the fact that you support the militarisation of police.


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