Syrian Gas Attack 2017

Ian · April 05, 2017, 10:33:02 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/middleeast/idlib-syria-attack/

TL;DR: Syrian Government uses chemical weapons dropped from planes onto rebel occupied city. Civilians and children killed in attack.

This is going to be hard for Assad to defend, yeah Aleppo is liberated but all those people cheering as their city was finally free from violence aren't going to be so happy to hear their family could have possibly been attacked literally right next door.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · April 05, 2017, 10:50:54 PM

I don't think anybody has tried to argue that Assad is a misunderstood guy, just that toppling the regime will work out about as well as Iraq. The question is how to remove him from power while maintaining a semblance of stability in the area.

Ian · April 05, 2017, 10:59:12 PM

Impossible. Influence from the west wont allow for anybody other than a puppet who supports western democratic "ideals" (which are anything BUT western and democratic).

Quote from: Aria × Aria on April 05, 2017, 10:50:54 PM

The question is how to remove him from power while maintaining a semblance of stability in the area.

Alternative Facts · April 05, 2017, 11:02:07 PM

Quote from: Ian on April 05, 2017, 10:59:12 PM

Impossible. Influence from the west wont allow for anybody other than a puppet who supports western democratic "ideals" (which are anything BUT western and democratic).

Quote from: Aria × Aria on April 05, 2017, 10:50:54 PM
The question is how to remove him from power while maintaining a semblance of stability in the area.

I'd agree with Ian that it's impossible, but for completely different reasons.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · April 06, 2017, 03:47:52 AM

Fucked up.

Negotiating with terrorists is not an option, but use of chems on a populated area is just fucked.
Why even use that shit? The russkies proved they can hit a needle in a haystack from a jet, why not use them?

gats · April 06, 2017, 04:36:44 AM

Nice (((CNN))) link labeling Assad as the perpetrator even though there's no proof so far.

Mr. Psychologist · April 06, 2017, 09:12:26 AM

And right on cue the warhawks start screeching for intervention.

Turkey · April 06, 2017, 09:43:26 AM

From a srs ancap buddy on FB:

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The Syrian government, didn't use chemical weapons on it's population. Nobody uses a weapon in extremely isolated incidences, years apart (unless it's a test, or a nuclear weapon).

And it's not a test, as the chemical is not new or sophisticated, nor nearly the most deadly.

FALSE FLAG.

Luciana · April 06, 2017, 10:14:37 AM

Quote from: Ian on April 05, 2017, 10:33:02 PM

TL;DR: Syrian Government uses chemical weapons dropped from planes onto rebel occupied city.

No you idiot, it hit a weapons depot. Russia and Syria are the victims in this..

Smdh

Genghis Khan · April 06, 2017, 10:55:44 AM

I've heard it was the opposition that did it and blame Assad for it.

Luciana · April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on April 06, 2017, 10:55:44 AM

I've heard it was the opposition that did it and blame Assad for it.

It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this

Ian · April 06, 2017, 11:41:10 AM

Can't you check and compare IPs?

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM

It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this

DAS B00T x2 · April 06, 2017, 11:44:18 AM

Quote from: Ian on April 06, 2017, 11:41:10 AM

Can't you check and compare IPs?

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this

mods cannot.

challengerX · April 06, 2017, 11:51:49 AM

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Genghis Khan · April 06, 2017, 12:38:27 PM

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on April 06, 2017, 10:55:44 AM
I've heard it was the opposition that did it and blame Assad for it.
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this

Yeah, I'm just convinced it wasn't Assad. This is my first and only account.

Mr. Psychologist · April 06, 2017, 12:41:39 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 11:44:18 AM

Quote from: Ian on April 06, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
Can't you check and compare IPs?

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this
mods cannot.

We can actually, but I don't think anyone has bothered using the tool since we started just shooting bots on sight.

DAS B00T x2 · April 06, 2017, 12:43:15 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 06, 2017, 12:41:39 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: Ian on April 06, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
Can't you check and compare IPs?

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this
mods cannot.
We can actually, but I don't think anyone has bothered using the tool since we started just shooting bots on sight.

oh
When did that happen?

Mr. Psychologist · April 06, 2017, 12:55:09 PM

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on April 06, 2017, 10:55:44 AM
I've heard it was the opposition that did it and blame Assad for it.
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this

So because he doesn't accept what CNN says, he's rusing?

In no way does it make sense for Assad to just decide to drop a bit of sarin onto a battlefield that he is winning.
He has the entire world champing at the bit to fuck his country into the ground as they did to libya, looking for absolutely any excuse to go to war there.

And don't forget that the OPCW cleared the Syrian Government in 2014 over their chemical weapon stockpiles, the same OPCW that found the 'moderate rebels' were in possession of stolen chemical weapons. The same rebels that put out videos of them gassing animals and crowing about how the shiites are next.

Or

How about the 'dead' victims of the gas attack who peep their eyes open when the camera is moving past them?

Or the murdering terrorist 'doctor' that stopped to give interviews rather than aiding the supposed 'injured', about the truly terrible crimes being inflicted upon the innocent?
Or how none of the aid workers even bothered putting on proper protective gear when responding to a supposed sarin attack?

It's almost as if this is a really convenient excuse to go in and topple Assad

The whole thing stinks of foul play and anyone leaping to the conclusion that Assad is responsible simply because the news says so ought to remove their head from their ass. Let OPCW investigate it, then go from there.

Mr. Psychologist · April 06, 2017, 12:57:18 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 12:43:15 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 06, 2017, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: Ian on April 06, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
Can't you check and compare IPs?

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this
mods cannot.
We can actually, but I don't think anyone has bothered using the tool since we started just shooting bots on sight.
oh
When did that happen?

The IP thing or the bot thing?

We've been able to check IPs against accounts (Like, who is this alt) since forever. When dustbin made his alts, or comms or kinder etc we could see them plain as day.

The bots have been turning up for months, they just spam shitty advertisements in broken english, polski or russkie. A few are pretty obscene too. Hence it's just a matter of removing the accounts prior to approval (shooting on sight).

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DAS B00T x2 · April 06, 2017, 01:04:01 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 06, 2017, 12:57:18 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 12:43:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 06, 2017, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: Ian on April 06, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
Can't you check and compare IPs?

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this
mods cannot.
We can actually, but I don't think anyone has bothered using the tool since we started just shooting bots on sight.
oh
When did that happen?
The IP thing or the bot thing?

We've been able to check IPs against accounts (Like, who is this alt) since forever. When dustbin made his alts, or comms or kinder etc we could see them plain as day.

The bots have been turning up for months, they just spam shitty advertisements in broken english, polski or russkie. A few are pretty obscene too. Hence it's just a matter of removing the accounts prior to approval (shooting on sight)

I though that was made admin only after that one time at band camp happened...

Mr. Psychologist · April 06, 2017, 01:13:08 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 01:04:01 PM

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 06, 2017, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 12:43:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 06, 2017, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on April 06, 2017, 11:44:18 AM
Quote from: Ian on April 06, 2017, 11:41:10 AM
Can't you check and compare IPs?

Quote from: Luciana on April 06, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
It's not fun when you've become predictable you know.

Who's alt is this
mods cannot.
We can actually, but I don't think anyone has bothered using the tool since we started just shooting bots on sight.
oh
When did that happen?
The IP thing or the bot thing?

We've been able to check IPs against accounts (Like, who is this alt) since forever. When dustbin made his alts, or comms or kinder etc we could see them plain as day.

The bots have been turning up for months, they just spam shitty advertisements in broken english, polski or russkie. A few are pretty obscene too. Hence it's just a matter of removing the accounts prior to approval (shooting on sight)
I though that was made admin only after that one time at band camp happened...

There was something like that changed but I honestly can't remember what it was.

Honestly everyone on here behaves pretty well these days, the last report I remember seeing was a dropped tendie or something mundane. Pretty sure it was before new years when there was last someone getting ban-banned rather than told to shut up or get slapped etc.

Ian · April 06, 2017, 01:31:03 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-chemical-attack-donald-trump-military-action-vladimir-putin-bashar-al-assad-regime-groundless-a7670556.html

WHO'S READY FOR WWIII?!?!

Mr. Psychologist · April 06, 2017, 02:06:30 PM

Quote from: Ian on April 06, 2017, 01:31:03 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/syria-chemical-attack-donald-trump-military-action-vladimir-putin-bashar-al-assad-regime-groundless-a7670556.html

WHO'S READY FOR WWIII?!?!

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The west doesn't throw thousands more lives into another pointless meatgrinder war. Let alone attacking a russian ally for fucks sake.

Even IF he did, and it wasn't a false flag, why the fuck should it be NATO lives being wasted in a fucking desert to serve the interests of people who want to see us all dead or paying jizya.

gats · April 06, 2017, 02:33:47 PM

>Tillerson announces U-turn on Syrian regime change
FUCK DRUMPF LEAVE THE LION ALONE

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Mordo · April 06, 2017, 04:43:09 PM

I like how Trump went from isolationist to neocon in the space of like three days.

Luciana · April 06, 2017, 05:09:29 PM

Quote from: Anglosaxophone on April 06, 2017, 04:43:09 PM

I like how Trump went from isolationist to neocon in the space of like three days.

He's probably seeing it as a huge challenge to America being the global power it is, since he and others constantly harassed Obama for doing nothing in a lot of cases. This is basically his test to show if he wants America to be passive like Obama, or show it's muscle.

Personally I just wish Russia would fuck off.