I hold prejudice against everybody because ninety five percent of them seem to be functionally retarded.
Quote from: E on June 03, 2020, 11:23:16 PMI hold prejudice against everybody because ninety five percent of them seem to be functionally retarded.And you're not?
Quote from: Desty on June 04, 2020, 03:52:36 AMQuote from: E on June 03, 2020, 11:23:16 PMI hold prejudice against everybody because ninety five percent of them seem to be functionally retarded.And you're not?Never implied I wasn't subject to human bouts of retardation. But I am sapient enough to know that blowing shit up/looting makes nobody's day and constitutes a pointless act.
Quote from: E on June 05, 2020, 12:25:40 AMQuote from: Desty on June 04, 2020, 03:52:36 AMQuote from: E on June 03, 2020, 11:23:16 PMI hold prejudice against everybody because ninety five percent of them seem to be functionally retarded.And you're not?Never implied I wasn't subject to human bouts of retardation. But I am sapient enough to know that blowing shit up/looting makes nobody's day and constitutes a pointless act.you're not sapient enough to anything. Blowing up rich peoples' money physically is the only way for poor people to say "fuck you rich banker who have rigged the system, I'm gonna put you down a peg". It's peaceful protests that don't accomplish anything aside from black people getting more care. Fuck black people, these riots shouldn't be about them, it should be about the rich who've rigged the system to oppress normal people for their gain.
Quote from: Desty on June 05, 2020, 09:05:21 AMQuote from: E on June 05, 2020, 12:25:40 AMQuote from: Desty on June 04, 2020, 03:52:36 AMQuote from: E on June 03, 2020, 11:23:16 PMI hold prejudice against everybody because ninety five percent of them seem to be functionally retarded.And you're not?Never implied I wasn't subject to human bouts of retardation. But I am sapient enough to know that blowing shit up/looting makes nobody's day and constitutes a pointless act.you're not sapient enough to anything. Blowing up rich peoples' money physically is the only way for poor people to say "fuck you rich banker who have rigged the system, I'm gonna put you down a peg". It's peaceful protests that don't accomplish anything aside from black people getting more care. Fuck black people, these riots shouldn't be about them, it should be about the rich who've rigged the system to oppress normal people for their gain.Ok then Desty my man. Let's make a plan. Let's use walmart as a hypothetical target. Now, are we blowing up walmart stores? Because that's a pretty good way to target rich people's money right? Well, that gives us an easy target of 4,756 walmarts in the US to take down, and 11,500 worldwide. I'm afraid I can't conjure up the math on the tnt explosive force needed to completely demolish a walmart, but I know it'd be quite a bit if we felt like taking out all the wally worlds in the US alone.And we haven't taken into account a random factor yet either. Civilians as collateral. Blowing up a building of any kind usually comes with the risk of taking somebody out or injuring them. You have to ask the question of whether or not the life of a bystander is worth destroying when a large corporation like walmart can absorb the loss of a store very easily via insurance, rendering any random bystander's death as pointless.We also have to take note that creating explosions and damage gives the media a tool to use against the group or people doing it. Your movement gains no positive traction that way. The way you win the war with the corporations is by winning the minds of the people who actively keep them functioning. The people who buy shit.Paint me a picture here. What would happen to a walmart, or any big brand company out there if nobody bought anything from them for a month? Two months? Six months?
Terrorists are literally only trying to incite fear and make people question whether their causes are worth standing by when it means there are people out there who are willing to torture and kill them for holding those causes.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 23, 2020, 03:43:30 PMTerrorists are literally only trying to incite fear and make people question whether their causes are worth standing by when it means there are people out there who are willing to torture and kill them for holding those causes.I meanI'm willing to kill a cop
The use of violence to bring about systemic or political change is literally the definition of terrorism. Destruction or defacement or theft of property is a form of violence Therefore rioters are inciting violence against the state to enact political changeTherefore rioters are terrorist just like George Washington, Micheal Collins, Ho Chi Minh and Robespierre all led groups of terrorists.edit for spelling
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 23, 2020, 04:47:29 PMThe use of violence to bring about systemic or political change is literally the definition of terrorism. Destruction or defacement or theft of property is a form of violence Therefore rioters are inciting violence against the state to enact political changeTherefore rioters are terrorist just like George Washington, Micheal Collins, Ho Chi Minh and Robespierre all led groups of terrorists.edit for spellingIf you have to Google “definition of terrorist” and use whatever pops up as a prop to your argument, then you don’t understand how arguments work.You’re fighting a battle of semantics without considering what “terrorists” are actually considered.Were the Founding Father terrorists? They used violence to bring about a political change.Was Malcolm X a terrorist? He did the same.No terrorist has an ideology - he has an anti-ideology. His entire belief set is an opposition to a preexisting belief set. They are terrorists because they strike terror into people, with violence and intimidation, for having the gall to freely believe in whatever they choose. They’re terrorists because when the rest of us were picking what philosophy we subscribed to, they were picking what philosophy they hated.
Quote from: SecondClass on June 23, 2020, 10:13:58 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 23, 2020, 04:47:29 PMThe use of violence to bring about systemic or political change is literally the definition of terrorism. Destruction or defacement or theft of property is a form of violence Therefore rioters are inciting violence against the state to enact political changeTherefore rioters are terrorist just like George Washington, Micheal Collins, Ho Chi Minh and Robespierre all led groups of terrorists.edit for spellingIf you have to Google “definition of terrorist” and use whatever pops up as a prop to your argument, then you don’t understand how arguments work.You’re fighting a battle of semantics without considering what “terrorists” are actually considered.Were the Founding Father terrorists? They used violence to bring about a political change.Was Malcolm X a terrorist? He did the same.No terrorist has an ideology - he has an anti-ideology. His entire belief set is an opposition to a preexisting belief set. They are terrorists because they strike terror into people, with violence and intimidation, for having the gall to freely believe in whatever they choose. They’re terrorists because when the rest of us were picking what philosophy we subscribed to, they were picking what philosophy they hated.I don't think it's that black and white. The majority of terrorists have an ideology, and it's taken to it's maximum on one end of a scale. You can't not have an ideology in place because terrorism wouldn't function without it. Ideology is the central core of what all terrorism is about. It's two narratives and egos clashing, with one of them being so devout that they'd be willing to kill or destroy to win.
Were the Founding Father terrorists?
just like George Washington... led groups of terrorists.
Then what separates a terrorist from a revolutionary?
Quote from: E on June 24, 2020, 12:18:40 AMQuote from: SecondClass on June 23, 2020, 10:13:58 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on June 23, 2020, 04:47:29 PMThe use of violence to bring about systemic or political change is literally the definition of terrorism. Destruction or defacement or theft of property is a form of violence Therefore rioters are inciting violence against the state to enact political changeTherefore rioters are terrorist just like George Washington, Micheal Collins, Ho Chi Minh and Robespierre all led groups of terrorists.edit for spellingIf you have to Google “definition of terrorist” and use whatever pops up as a prop to your argument, then you don’t understand how arguments work.You’re fighting a battle of semantics without considering what “terrorists” are actually considered.Were the Founding Father terrorists? They used violence to bring about a political change.Was Malcolm X a terrorist? He did the same.No terrorist has an ideology - he has an anti-ideology. His entire belief set is an opposition to a preexisting belief set. They are terrorists because they strike terror into people, with violence and intimidation, for having the gall to freely believe in whatever they choose. They’re terrorists because when the rest of us were picking what philosophy we subscribed to, they were picking what philosophy they hated.I don't think it's that black and white. The majority of terrorists have an ideology, and it's taken to it's maximum on one end of a scale. You can't not have an ideology in place because terrorism wouldn't function without it. Ideology is the central core of what all terrorism is about. It's two narratives and egos clashing, with one of them being so devout that they'd be willing to kill or destroy to win.Then what separates a terrorist from a revolutionary?
Rioters are literal terrorists
