You would have walked up to someone actively aiming a gun? LOLOLOL
Quote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 02:29:23 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:28:38 PMQuote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 01:10:21 PMWhat annoys me is that white folk can walk into supermarkets with fucking rifles and no one gives a shitThere's a difference between the way a gun is handled. Over the shoulder in your picture is not intimidating what so ever. The way the guy was holding it in the video and the caller claiming he was pointing it is intimidatingThis is just one of many examples available if you Google search.This is proper rifle handling It's slung over the shoulder and pointing down and not being waved around. Notice that one of them is black. This has nothing to do with race and it's kinda arrogant to make it about it. What this is about is proper gun handling and reporting to police with the truth
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:28:38 PMQuote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 01:10:21 PMWhat annoys me is that white folk can walk into supermarkets with fucking rifles and no one gives a shitThere's a difference between the way a gun is handled. Over the shoulder in your picture is not intimidating what so ever. The way the guy was holding it in the video and the caller claiming he was pointing it is intimidatingThis is just one of many examples available if you Google search.
Quote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 01:10:21 PMWhat annoys me is that white folk can walk into supermarkets with fucking rifles and no one gives a shitThere's a difference between the way a gun is handled. Over the shoulder in your picture is not intimidating what so ever. The way the guy was holding it in the video and the caller claiming he was pointing it is intimidating
What annoys me is that white folk can walk into supermarkets with fucking rifles and no one gives a shit
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:43:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course notYeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course not
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnel
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.
I don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happened
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:34:21 PMQuote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 02:29:23 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:28:38 PMQuote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 01:10:21 PMWhat annoys me is that white folk can walk into supermarkets with fucking rifles and no one gives a shitThere's a difference between the way a gun is handled. Over the shoulder in your picture is not intimidating what so ever. The way the guy was holding it in the video and the caller claiming he was pointing it is intimidatingThis is just one of many examples available if you Google search.This is proper rifle handling It's slung over the shoulder and pointing down and not being waved around. Notice that one of them is black. This has nothing to do with race and it's kinda arrogant to make it about it. What this is about is proper gun handling and reporting to police with the truth>Trying to justify the murder of an innocent personFuck me you never cease to amaze me
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:46:17 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:43:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course notYeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew. Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful act
And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PM And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. You're a fucking clown
Quote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:01:07 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PM And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. You're a fucking clownPretty ironic, coming from you.
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:55:48 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:46:17 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:43:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course notYeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew. Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful actThe whole Walmart was evacuated. No civilians could have possibly been harmed. And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. Cops can only fire weapons if their lives are directly in danger. The kid didn't even point the gun at the cops, he just turned around to see what the hell was going on.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 03:01:49 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:01:07 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PM And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. You're a fucking clownPretty ironic, coming from you.Not at all. You're an edgy teenager. "OH no, I got pulled over one time and got a ticket! Fuck pigs!!!". Actually, maybe that didnt happen. Are you even old enough to drive?
But the cops did nothing wrong.
Quote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:03:51 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 03:01:49 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:01:07 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PM And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. You're a fucking clownPretty ironic, coming from you.Not at all. You're an edgy teenager. "OH no, I got pulled over one time and got a ticket! Fuck pigs!!!". Actually, maybe that didnt happen. Are you even old enough to drive?Not a teenager, never been pulled over. And yes, of course I am. This is less about this ridiculous personal vendetta against cops you seem to think I have, and much more about hating murderers.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:55:48 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:46:17 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:43:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course notYeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew. Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful actThe whole Walmart was evacuated. No civilians could have possibly been harmed. And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. Cops can only fire weapons if their lives are directly in danger. The kid didn't even point the gun at the cops, he just turned around to see what the hell was going on.lolno. Dying is nowhere in the job description to be a cop. A cop's job is to enforce the laws. And the cops did feel they were in direct danger. The guy reported to be waving a gun around was turning towards them and felt he was going to fire on them. You would feel EXACTLY the same way in the situation. Don't deny it
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:57:48 PMBut the cops did nothing wrong. oh my god dis nigga be trippin
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 03:06:00 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:03:51 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 03:01:49 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:01:07 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PM And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. You're a fucking clownPretty ironic, coming from you.Not at all. You're an edgy teenager. "OH no, I got pulled over one time and got a ticket! Fuck pigs!!!". Actually, maybe that didnt happen. Are you even old enough to drive?Not a teenager, never been pulled over. And yes, of course I am. This is less about this ridiculous personal vendetta against cops you seem to think I have, and much more about hating murderers.Doing his job, not a murderer.
Quote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:06:44 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 03:06:00 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:03:51 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 03:01:49 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:01:07 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PM And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. You're a fucking clownPretty ironic, coming from you.Not at all. You're an edgy teenager. "OH no, I got pulled over one time and got a ticket! Fuck pigs!!!". Actually, maybe that didnt happen. Are you even old enough to drive?Not a teenager, never been pulled over. And yes, of course I am. This is less about this ridiculous personal vendetta against cops you seem to think I have, and much more about hating murderers.Doing his job, not a murderer.Killing unarmed teenagers whose only crimes are turning around is a cop's job? I guess murder is in the description, then.
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 03:04:53 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:55:48 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:46:17 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:43:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course notYeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew. Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful actThe whole Walmart was evacuated. No civilians could have possibly been harmed. And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. Cops can only fire weapons if their lives are directly in danger. The kid didn't even point the gun at the cops, he just turned around to see what the hell was going on.lolno. Dying is nowhere in the job description to be a cop. A cop's job is to enforce the laws. And the cops did feel they were in direct danger. The guy reported to be waving a gun around was turning towards them and felt he was going to fire on them. You would feel EXACTLY the same way in the situation. Don't deny itYeah, when you know that you're fighting thieves, murderers, rapists, and thugs, you should really expect to have a vastly higher fatality rate than other professions. And it doesn't matter if he "thinks" he was in direct danger. The kid wasn't even pointing a weapon at him.
He had a gun.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 03:08:08 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 03:04:53 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:58:19 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:55:48 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:46:17 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:43:28 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:41:28 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:38:03 PMQuote from: SecondClass on September 27, 2014, 02:34:47 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:31:48 PMI don't see any problem here.Well, the only problem was the guy calling and saying the other guy was waving around the gun when he actually wasn't. Police did nothing wrong as they got a call about a man pointing a gun at people, arrived, saw the supposed weapon, ordered him to drop it, he never dropped it, and was shotPolice are not some super-natural beings that know everything about a situation. They know as much as everybody else and what they are told about the situation at hand. Maybe if the caller didn't say the gun was being waved and pointed then this wouldn't have happenedThere's this new thing called tazers and shooting people in the leg or arm. Lethal force is only appropriate if a civilian's (NOT a cop's) life is in immediate danger.There's this thing called distance. A taser won't shoot that far. It only works at a couple of feet, like 2 feet. Lethal force IS appropriate if a cop's life is in danger and cops are civilians also and police departments are civilian agencies. Only people not civilians are military personnelDid you not even watch the video, bro? They were extremely close to the guy. The simple fact of the matter is that the coo didn't even give the kid time to drop the BB gun. He came around the corner, yelled at him, and before the kid even knew what was going on, he was shot.I did watch the video. No cop is coming to get that close to a guy who has been reported to be pointing a gun around and have an item that looks like a gun in his hands. That's fucking suicide. You wouldn't get up close to the guy if you were there, would you? Of course notYeah, I would. Part of being a cop is not being a coward. If the cop would've waited another ten seconds for the kid to register that there was a misunderstanding, he could've avoided murdering an innocent civilian. Don't forget that all the kid was doing was buying a BB gun that Walmart had plainly laid out for any and all to take.Keeping your distance from a supposed armed subject is not being a coward, it's being smart and logical. Those 10 seconds is time wasted where an officer or a bystander could have gotten injured or killed by the guy. And as I said, cops are not all-knowing beings; they had no idea it was a BB gun and he was going to buy it. The department got a call saying the guy was pointing and waving a gun around and that's what the cops knew. Want to be mad at somebody? Be mad at the caller for lying about what happened. He needs to be charged with involuntary manslaughter because his false call (illegal act) led to a person dying, something that never happens associated with the unlawful actThe whole Walmart was evacuated. No civilians could have possibly been harmed. And if a cop dies, so be it. That's part of his job description. Cops can only fire weapons if their lives are directly in danger. The kid didn't even point the gun at the cops, he just turned around to see what the hell was going on.lolno. Dying is nowhere in the job description to be a cop. A cop's job is to enforce the laws. And the cops did feel they were in direct danger. The guy reported to be waving a gun around was turning towards them and felt he was going to fire on them. You would feel EXACTLY the same way in the situation. Don't deny itYeah, when you know that you're fighting thieves, murderers, rapists, and thugs, you should really expect to have a vastly higher fatality rate than other professions. And it doesn't matter if he "thinks" he was in direct danger. The kid wasn't even pointing a weapon at him.That doesn't mean dying is in the damn description. Nobody is willing to die by some punk and will take all measures to ensure they live, including not being an idiot and getting up close to a suspected dangerous individual It does matter what he thought. Put yourself in the situation. Say you only know that the guy has what appears to be a weapon and only know that he has been waving it around and pointing it a people and you tell him to drop it. He turns to face you with the weapon in his hand and you think it's real and fire on him in danger of your safety. That's what anybody else would do and what a cop would do, especially me once I become a cop. Because as I've saidCopsAreNotAllKnowingBeingsTheyOnly KnowWhat They Are Told
Quote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 03:06:15 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:57:48 PMBut the cops did nothing wrong. oh my god dis nigga be trippin"hur hur cops r bad"Did you even READ what I said? Because you obviously didn't. I'll PM you to a reading website so you can form a more coherent answer next time
Oh shit. Now the cop is racist too?You people are fucking idiots. Have more respect for someone who puts his life on the line so you can jerkoff in your parents basement.
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 03:08:33 PMQuote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 03:06:15 PMQuote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 02:57:48 PMBut the cops did nothing wrong. oh my god dis nigga be trippin"hur hur cops r bad"Did you even READ what I said? Because you obviously didn't. I'll PM you to a reading website so you can form a more coherent answer next timeNo thanks, don't send me anything. The simple fact of the matter is that the cop is a pig and deserves jail time. He could have handle the situation differently and the kid would be still be alive. This guy shot up a theatre and still made it out alive. The officer disregards the life of a black person so he just took the easy way out and shot him. I don't care what you say any more, on more than one occasion you have shown to be a racist so you'll forever deny that it was the officers fault and blame it on the victim.
Quote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:17:31 PMOh shit. Now the cop is racist too?You people are fucking idiots. Have more respect for someone who puts his life on the line so you can jerkoff in your parents basement.Yes. A guy holding a bb gun is a huge danger to my life, what would do if I got by a bb pellet oh lord have mercy
Quote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 03:22:48 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:17:31 PMOh shit. Now the cop is racist too?You people are fucking idiots. Have more respect for someone who puts his life on the line so you can jerkoff in your parents basement.Yes. A guy holding a bb gun is a huge danger to my life, what would do if I got by a bb pellet oh lord have mercyExactly how would the cop know if the BB gun was such? If it looks like a real gun then that's what it will be perceived as. Use your brain
Quote from: Kinder_ on September 27, 2014, 03:25:24 PMQuote from: Gatsby on September 27, 2014, 03:22:48 PMQuote from: PSU on September 27, 2014, 03:17:31 PMOh shit. Now the cop is racist too?You people are fucking idiots. Have more respect for someone who puts his life on the line so you can jerkoff in your parents basement.Yes. A guy holding a bb gun is a huge danger to my life, what would do if I got by a bb pellet oh lord have mercyExactly how would the cop know if the BB gun was such? If it looks like a real gun then that's what it will be perceived as. Use your brainMaybe by asking the kid to put his hands up and drop the weapon?To which then the kid would reply "it's a bb gun, it's not real"He'd still have to put it down but then, (wait for it this is the most important part) at least he would still be alive.