Also, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.
Quote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.While I agree with you, I'm not sure you can use your rent as a metric.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:53:29 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.
Quote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:55:18 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:53:29 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers?
Quote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:55:18 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:53:29 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.
It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself.
You have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you.
I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there.
Quote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 02:06:48 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 02:04:03 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:55:18 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:53:29 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers? What does that even mean? How do I make my employer a slave?Quote It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. I do.QuoteYou have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you.Yes, that's called "a job."Quote I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there...and I didn't work hard? I stole things from people to get where I am?You also don't need the internet, and I can actually afford it on my own. My possessions are irrelevant. You make an employer a slave when you raise the minimum wage by forcing them to pay something they never agreed to pay. Then you're living, which goes against your claim that you can't live on $8 an hour.Or providing for yourself. No one owes you a job, nor is one required to survive.You are advocating for theft...
Quote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 02:04:03 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:55:18 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:53:29 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers? What does that even mean? How do I make my employer a slave?Quote It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. I do.QuoteYou have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you.Yes, that's called "a job."Quote I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there...and I didn't work hard? I stole things from people to get where I am?
Quote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 02:14:58 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 02:12:28 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 02:06:48 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 02:04:03 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:55:18 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:53:29 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers? What does that even mean? How do I make my employer a slave?Quote It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. I do.QuoteYou have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you.Yes, that's called "a job."Quote I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there...and I didn't work hard? I stole things from people to get where I am?You also don't need the internet, and I can actually afford it on my own. My possessions are irrelevant. You make an employer a slave when you raise the minimum wage by forcing them to pay something they never agreed to pay. Then you're living, which goes against your claim that you can't live on $8 an hour.Or providing for yourself. No one owes you a job, nor is one required to survive.You are advocating for theft...Do you realize what a dysfunctional society we would live in if nobody had real fucking jobs? We can't all be farmers and blacksmiths and shit. We already did that...hundreds of years ago.You realize there's plenty of fantastic jobs out there, or you can always start your own business.
Quote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 02:12:28 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 02:06:48 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 02:04:03 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:59:20 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:55:18 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:53:29 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:51:51 PMQuote from: Mad Max on January 23, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuote from: Camnator on January 23, 2015, 01:31:26 PMAlso, you can live ANYWHERE in the United States for $8 an hour.No, incorrect. My rent is $1050/mo. Even if I didn't pay taxes, I would barely have enough to keep my roof over my head at $8/hr. That's not to mention food, utilities, car, cell phone, and other expenses.Stop making shit up.Not everyone lives in your crazy little fantasy world.Absolutely correct. You don't need utilities, a car, a cell phone, most other expenses or even a place to rent.I don't need running water, heat, a car to get to work, a phone to call my friends, family, work? I don't need a place to live?Please just stop.No, you don't NEED those things to LIVE. Sorry, I don't just stop because you get proven wrong. Walk to a dang pond with a bucket. My point is you're going to live, you're just going to have to not be dependent on others.Sorry, this isn't the fucking 1400's. I'm not going to build a tiny shack and attempt to survive. This is 2015 with all the comfort and amenities I desire. We don't need to hunt for our food anymore, the grocery store exists. We don't need to make our own clothes, we can buy those, too. I'm not going to walk 20 miles to and from work, so I drive because we have cars.Maybe barely surviving works for you, but certainly not for me.It's pretty silly that you say all this shit about not needing any of these things, yet here you are on the fucking internet.Since this isn't the past we better just make slaves of employers? What does that even mean? How do I make my employer a slave?Quote It doesn't work like that. Live within your means and support yourself. I do.QuoteYou have to actually work for those comforts instead of expecting them to be handed too you.Yes, that's called "a job."Quote I'm hardly "barely surviving." I worked hard to where I am to live comfortably, and I didn't steal from anyone to get there...and I didn't work hard? I stole things from people to get where I am?You also don't need the internet, and I can actually afford it on my own. My possessions are irrelevant. You make an employer a slave when you raise the minimum wage by forcing them to pay something they never agreed to pay. Then you're living, which goes against your claim that you can't live on $8 an hour.Or providing for yourself. No one owes you a job, nor is one required to survive.You are advocating for theft...Do you realize what a dysfunctional society we would live in if nobody had real fucking jobs? We can't all be farmers and blacksmiths and shit. We already did that...hundreds of years ago.
everyone is equal to one another
Quote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 07:45:28 AM everyone is equal to one anotherObviously false.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 26, 2015, 09:37:49 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 07:45:28 AM everyone is equal to one anotherObviously false.why?
Quote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 09:52:08 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 26, 2015, 09:37:49 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 07:45:28 AM everyone is equal to one anotherObviously false.why?Because some people are inferior to others. Not because of race or anything trivial like that. But some people are simply superior to others, and others are inferior.
Quote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 09:52:08 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 26, 2015, 09:37:49 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 07:45:28 AM everyone is equal to one anotherObviously false.why?Because people aren't equal.Moreover, individuals who aren't so well-off aren't in any way entitled to the wealth or labour of those better of than them insofar as it goes beyond sustaining the necessities.
create a classless society.
Quote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 10:11:05 AMcreate a classless society.That's not even possible, let alone desirable.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on January 26, 2015, 10:16:24 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 10:11:05 AMcreate a classless society.That's not even possible, let alone desirable.yes it is. just because noone has tried it yet doesn't mean the idea shouldn't be scrapped
Quote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 10:08:58 AMQuote from: challengerX on January 26, 2015, 10:03:32 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 09:52:08 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 26, 2015, 09:37:49 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 07:45:28 AM everyone is equal to one anotherObviously false.why?Because some people are inferior to others. Not because of race or anything trivial like that. But some people are simply superior to others, and others are inferior.by saying that your just blanketing over different skills. noone is superior to someone in every way. everyone has their weaknesses and strengths it balances outTrue, but some people are better than others even in certain skills. Not all people are equal. We should all have equal rights, but we're not all equal.
Quote from: challengerX on January 26, 2015, 10:03:32 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 09:52:08 AMQuote from: Meta Cognition on January 26, 2015, 09:37:49 AMQuote from: DisturbedMind883 on January 26, 2015, 07:45:28 AM everyone is equal to one anotherObviously false.why?Because some people are inferior to others. Not because of race or anything trivial like that. But some people are simply superior to others, and others are inferior.by saying that your just blanketing over different skills. noone is superior to someone in every way. everyone has their weaknesses and strengths it balances out