I mean, Pewdiepie has called someone a "fucking nigger", paid people to parade a "death to all jews" sign around, promoted a holocaust denier channel, created a super edgy community rife with racism and sexism that the man himself doesn't say a bad word about.
People are very right in looking for solutions to these complicated problems.
Media is already playing into his hand. BlUe CHecKmaRKs were already blaming Felix and and the likes for '''''radicalizing '''' people.Im fascinated by these kinds of calculated psychos, though obviously i condone his actions. Even after getting arrested he flashed the OK sign which the media and brainlets take as the white power sign.
Quote from: Ásgeirr on March 16, 2019, 08:45:10 AMMedia is already playing into his hand. BlUe CHecKmaRKs were already blaming Felix and and the likes for '''''radicalizing '''' people.Im fascinated by these kinds of calculated psychos, though obviously i condone his actions. Even after getting arrested he flashed the OK sign which the media and brainlets take as the white power sign.The media also portrayed Edward Snowden like he was a traitor but Alex Jones got me into believing the media was lying and taking sides.
Quote from: Flee on March 16, 2019, 07:29:19 PMI mean, Pewdiepie has called someone a "fucking nigger", paid people to parade a "death to all jews" sign around, promoted a holocaust denier channel, created a super edgy community rife with racism and sexism that the man himself doesn't say a bad word about.Who doesnt just have the word nigger slip out? Everyone does it, I dont think saying that work makes you hitler. That sign was pretty bad not going to lie, but I dont think anyone actually thought it was going to happen, and the holocaust denier? Was it when he was promoting a bunch of channels a month or so ago? He was promoting it based on a few vids he watched, you really going to expect someone to watch every single one of their videos before they decide to promote them or not? Thats a bit far fetched.Hes also said time and time again he doesnt condone the actions of people who watch his vids to attack people, be it online or the other, again hes apologized for his mistakes, what else can he do? Not to mention he isnt responsible for the actions of his 'community'. He isnt telling people to mess up someones place or anything like that. Hes a guy that makes videos about memes, they have been edgy in the past but for the most part hes had to heavily backtrack on a lot of things.Hell if this moron in NZ didnt even mention Pewdiepie we wouldnt be talking about this. I dont believe for a second he took inspiration of the channel and purely did it to cause this rift and draw attention. That much should be obvious.
Who doesnt just have the word nigger slip out? Everyone does it
Who doesnt just have the word nigger slip out? Everyone does it, I dont think saying that work makes you hitler.
Fair, I dont consider myself racist but using a phrase like 'oh shit nigga' is one that can be used in my group from time to time, that being said it has eased up a hell of a lot these past few years. Im comfortable with the phrase, of course you dont say it to just anyone. That being said wasnt aware it wasnt all that uncommon. And I said it as more of a satirical sense not racial, but this was way back when and we've all become a lot more careful these days.
Quote from: Batch on March 17, 2019, 04:15:07 PMFair, I dont consider myself racist but using a phrase like 'oh shit nigga' is one that can be used in my group from time to time, that being said it has eased up a hell of a lot these past few years. Im comfortable with the phrase, of course you dont say it to just anyone. That being said wasnt aware it wasnt all that uncommon. And I said it as more of a satirical sense not racial, but this was way back when and we've all become a lot more careful these days.I'm going to assume that when "you don't just say it to anyone," you choose a certain group of people to avoid specifically. And what I would like you to do is consider why you choose to only use the word when that group is not present. If you can't use it with everyone, perhaps it's not good to use at all.
Quote from: Elai on March 16, 2019, 09:56:24 AMQuote from: Flee on March 15, 2019, 06:02:46 PMQuote from: Genghis Khan on March 15, 2019, 01:46:34 PMQuote from: Boomdeyadah on March 15, 2019, 01:05:51 PMWe live in a timeline where we can now watch a schizo maniac shoot up a mosque via a gopro who at the same time tells us to all subscribe to PewDiePieI would clap if someone blew up the EU HQ.I know you're just a troll, but you're headed for a permaban with posts like this. Regardless of who the victim is or where the attack is aimed at, I'm not going to tolerate support for terrorist attacks on this forum. You can consider this a final warning.Can't you already just do it though? What's the point if they're just going to tightrope the line between piece of shit who doesn't break the rules and dumbfuck who does?I'm not going to make that decision by myself. If enough people decide he's just a troll trying to bait people and offers no discussion value, then sure.
Quote from: Flee on March 15, 2019, 06:02:46 PMQuote from: Genghis Khan on March 15, 2019, 01:46:34 PMQuote from: Boomdeyadah on March 15, 2019, 01:05:51 PMWe live in a timeline where we can now watch a schizo maniac shoot up a mosque via a gopro who at the same time tells us to all subscribe to PewDiePieI would clap if someone blew up the EU HQ.I know you're just a troll, but you're headed for a permaban with posts like this. Regardless of who the victim is or where the attack is aimed at, I'm not going to tolerate support for terrorist attacks on this forum. You can consider this a final warning.Can't you already just do it though? What's the point if they're just going to tightrope the line between piece of shit who doesn't break the rules and dumbfuck who does?
Quote from: Genghis Khan on March 15, 2019, 01:46:34 PMQuote from: Boomdeyadah on March 15, 2019, 01:05:51 PMWe live in a timeline where we can now watch a schizo maniac shoot up a mosque via a gopro who at the same time tells us to all subscribe to PewDiePieI would clap if someone blew up the EU HQ.I know you're just a troll, but you're headed for a permaban with posts like this. Regardless of who the victim is or where the attack is aimed at, I'm not going to tolerate support for terrorist attacks on this forum. You can consider this a final warning.
Quote from: Boomdeyadah on March 15, 2019, 01:05:51 PMWe live in a timeline where we can now watch a schizo maniac shoot up a mosque via a gopro who at the same time tells us to all subscribe to PewDiePieI would clap if someone blew up the EU HQ.
We live in a timeline where we can now watch a schizo maniac shoot up a mosque via a gopro who at the same time tells us to all subscribe to PewDiePie
Quote from: Flee on March 16, 2019, 07:29:19 PMI mean, Pewdiepie has called someone a "fucking nigger", paid people to parade a "death to all jews" sign around, promoted a holocaust denier channel, created a super edgy community rife with racism and sexism that the man himself doesn't say a bad word about.Who doesnt just have the word nigger slip out? Everyone does it, I dont think saying that work makes you hitler.
Quote from: Flee on March 16, 2019, 12:35:56 PMPeople are very right in looking for solutions to these complicated problems.I disagree with the notion that anti-SJW crowd is a gateway toward extremism, especially when most of the people you listed have denounced Alex Jones, the alt-right, the great replacement, etc. Felix may have right-wing, possibly even alt-right, views but you have to dig through his "Following" list on twitter to see it; it doesn't reflect in his content. This seems like little more than thought-policing.The shooter had stated that he specifically picked his rifle in order to violently escalate the gun debate. Does it really seem likely that he was radicalized by Pewdiepie, or that he wanted people to think he was radicalized by Pewdiepie? I doubt that he was genuinely a fan of Pewdiepie or Candace Owens, and when the media uses this as an opportunity to reignite their agendas against these people, it is just playing right into the killer's hands.This is why we should stop giving exposure to killers and their motives. There's a discussion to be had about communities like 8chan, gun control, and mental health, but much of the "discussion" is just further polarizing people.
leadership figures within the alt right like Bannon
Quote from: Flee on March 18, 2019, 11:14:38 AMleadership figures within the alt right like BannonBannon is right wing, but is he a white nationalist though? As far as I know, the alt right is defined as being a white identitarian movement.I see the term alt right thrown around constantly to refer to anyone controversial or prominent on the right, even people like Ben Shapiro who is Jewish and hated by the alt-right. I don't understand how so many people can just casually label various run-of-the-mill conservatives as being white supremacist.
Who are you to say that these people are not genuinely looking for solutions when they bring up gun control, media influencers, radicalization and so on?
I would never condone any harassment but let's not pretend that a small group (of students) confronting Clinton isn't anything more than just that.
While that might be true for some people, I doubt it's a majority.
Denouncing "the alt right" when you share many of the same views, attack the same people and present a slightly watered down version of what the most notorious voices are saying doesn't mean much.
I think it's disingenuous to pretend this doesn't happen when people like Bannon and Stormfront have explicitly commented on how useful of a recruitment technique it is.
And you and I have some pretty different views on how the "fucking nigger", "death to all jews", Shapiro as a host, promoting a holocaust denier channel and all the other stuff somehow are not politics being reflected in his content.
Let's not pretend this is some unfounded smear campaign against an innocent epic gamer.
Your entire position seems kinda contradictory as you both admit that there's a discussion to be had but simultaneously appear to be dismiss any of it actually happening.
Context is key. He deleted/apologized for/claimed ignorance for most of those things. I'm not sure how people can genuinely think he's some nazi dogwhistle channel with this in mind. I don't watch Pewdiepie, but from what I've read from his fans, he never gets political aside from these cherrypicked slip ups.