radical Jihadists.
Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America
Quote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in Europe
Quote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."
Quote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.
Quote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?
I sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.
You mean the moderate rebel groups that are totally a viable alternative to the syrian government.
Quote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?
>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?
Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here.
Wasn't Russia bombing them because they said ISIS was in the region? Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 29, 2017, 10:54:41 AMYou mean the moderate rebel groups that are totally a viable alternative to the syrian government.
It hasn't turned out bad for us because our immigration process is already strict as High Holy Hell. We're not going to do stupid shit like Merkel and just let anyone flood in. Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AM>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?
But hasn't Minnesota gotten like a shitload of Somalis recently?
Quote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.
Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in Europe
The ''moderate'' rebels are still fundamentalist scum. They only appear to be moderate because they aren't posting slickly produced videos of beheadings on twitter. The ones that you could half argue weren't for turning syria into another third world shithole died off a long time ago and got absorbed into ISIS. The russians 'accidentally' bombed them in the same way you yanks 'accidentally' bomb the syrian armed forces.
Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.
By all means, kabob yourselves into breaking point to learn the lesson the hard way.
Quote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:03:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.By all means, kabob yourselves into breaking point to learn the lesson the hard way.
So they're still crazy and them winning wouldn't put the people in any better shape? Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 29, 2017, 11:01:01 AMThe ''moderate'' rebels are still fundamentalist scum. They only appear to be moderate because they aren't posting slickly produced videos of beheadings on twitter. The ones that you could half argue weren't for turning syria into another third world shithole died off a long time ago and got absorbed into ISIS. The russians 'accidentally' bombed them in the same way you yanks 'accidentally' bomb the syrian armed forces.
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 29, 2017, 11:04:32 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:03:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.By all means, kabob yourselves into breaking point to learn the lesson the hard way.Or we just continue to vet refugees as we have for the past 70+ years, assuming that there hasn't been a correlation here.I really don't understand - do people seriously think we fly planeloads here overnight, hands them the keys to a house and car and say "Have fun, we'll see you in 8 years?" There is already strict vetting measures in place, so I'd love to see how Trump wants to make them more strict and restrictive.
Quote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:08:05 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 29, 2017, 11:04:32 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:03:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.By all means, kabob yourselves into breaking point to learn the lesson the hard way.Or we just continue to vet refugees as we have for the past 70+ years, assuming that there hasn't been a correlation here.I really don't understand - do people seriously think we fly planeloads here overnight, hands them the keys to a house and car and say "Have fun, we'll see you in 8 years?" There is already strict vetting measures in place, so I'd love to see how Trump wants to make them more strict and restrictive.I'm sure the USA is immune to the problems that the rest of the world has had with them, so sure go right ahead.
Quote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:03:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.It's hard to argue with the highest reported rape statistics in the world, but okay."It hasn't turned out bad for us because our immigration process is already strict as High Holy Hell. We're not going to do stupid shit like Merkel and just let anyone flood in. -Ian" I liked this post.stop being so mad bro
"It hasn't turned out bad for us because our immigration process is already strict as High Holy Hell. We're not going to do stupid shit like Merkel and just let anyone flood in. -Ian" I liked this post. stop being so mad bro
While the order requires the Department of Homeland Security to issue a report within 180 days providing detailed statistics on foreign nationals who commit acts of violence, terrorism researchers have already produced rich and revealing data. For instance, since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, no one has been killed in the United States in a terrorist attack by anyone who emigrated from or whose parents emigrated from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, the seven countries targeted in the order’s 120-day visa ban, according to Charles Kurzman, a sociology professor at the University of North Carolina.
Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:15:16 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:03:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.It's hard to argue with the highest reported rape statistics in the world, but okay."It hasn't turned out bad for us because our immigration process is already strict as High Holy Hell. We're not going to do stupid shit like Merkel and just let anyone flood in. -Ian" I liked this post.stop being so mad broI see you have nothing. Done with you.
Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:15:16 AM"It hasn't turned out bad for us because our immigration process is already strict as High Holy Hell. We're not going to do stupid shit like Merkel and just let anyone flood in. -Ian" I liked this post. stop being so mad broNothing about that post was "Angry". UPDATE: Experts: Immigration Ban will not helphttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/politics/a-sweeping-order-unlikely-to-reduce-terrorist-threat.htmlQuoteWhile the order requires the Department of Homeland Security to issue a report within 180 days providing detailed statistics on foreign nationals who commit acts of violence, terrorism researchers have already produced rich and revealing data. For instance, since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, no one has been killed in the United States in a terrorist attack by anyone who emigrated from or whose parents emigrated from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, the seven countries targeted in the order’s 120-day visa ban, according to Charles Kurzman, a sociology professor at the University of North Carolina.
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 29, 2017, 11:12:31 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:08:05 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on January 29, 2017, 11:04:32 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:03:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.By all means, kabob yourselves into breaking point to learn the lesson the hard way.Or we just continue to vet refugees as we have for the past 70+ years, assuming that there hasn't been a correlation here.I really don't understand - do people seriously think we fly planeloads here overnight, hands them the keys to a house and car and say "Have fun, we'll see you in 8 years?" There is already strict vetting measures in place, so I'd love to see how Trump wants to make them more strict and restrictive.I'm sure the USA is immune to the problems that the rest of the world has had with them, so sure go right ahead.Arguably, yes. We share no land borders with the Middle East as you do with Greece and Turkey, and the trip by boat over the Mediterranean is far shorter and easier than going across the Atlantic. It's much more difficult to get into the US as a refugee than it is to get into Europe, even before you get into the matter of background checks and vetting.
Quote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:15:16 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 11:03:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 11:00:26 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:58:25 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:55:19 AMQuote from: Alternative Facts on January 29, 2017, 10:53:35 AMQuote from: AssMaster 11D7 on January 29, 2017, 10:52:21 AMQuote from: TBlocks on January 29, 2017, 10:47:49 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 10:39:32 AMQuote from: Flee on January 29, 2017, 10:10:54 AMQuote from: PSU on January 29, 2017, 09:57:17 AMI sincerely hope none of you lock the doors to your (your parents) homes at night. Otherwise, you'd be hypocrites. And we all know liberals are never hypocrites.Eh, what?You lock your doors because you love the ones inside, not because you hate all of those outside.This isn't a case of burglars coming into your house at night. This is a family saying "Can you please let us in because there are bullets whizzing by my head."Yeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeOkay, that's Europe. Show me some statistics for America>arguing whether they should be let into America>It's turned out bad for Europe>BUT HAS IT TURNED OUT BAD FOR AMERICA?Are you trying to be this dumb?I'm simply asking if you have numbers or evidence to show that refugees are committing violent crimes here in the states. If it's such a problem across the ocean with the same people, surely we'd see some evidence of it here. Oddly enough, I don't recall making this argument, friendo.QuoteYeah, it's not like crimes have risen exponentially since refugees arrived in EuropeYour "claim" is that crimes have risen in Europe since the refugees arrived - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see you're implying a correlation between them. Like I said, that's fine. Flee can argue with you about that.I'm asking you to show me proof that Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees that are already here in the states are acting violently, committing crimes, or something that justifies a ban on their coming here. Or are you just saying we should do it because it's happening in Europe.It's hard to argue with the highest reported rape statistics in the world, but okay."It hasn't turned out bad for us because our immigration process is already strict as High Holy Hell. We're not going to do stupid shit like Merkel and just let anyone flood in. -Ian" I liked this post.stop being so mad broYou going to back up your assertions like he asked or are you just going to continue the knee jerk sensationalist posts?
Fact check: President Trump did not put any of those countries on the list, the list was created by Ex-President Obama in 2015 and 2016 and passed.
Muslims are being held in custody without cause and with no access to lawyers
