Muslims are being held in custody without cause and with no access to lawyers

 
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38783512

But ya know, it's still not fascism guys

Edit: http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-halts-trumps-immigration-ban
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The federal court for the Eastern District of New York issued an emergency stay halting President Donald Trump’s executive order banning entry to the US from seven majority-Muslim countries tonight, following widespread protests at airports around the country.
Oh well nvm, this happened. Though I wonder what the outcome will be in the end
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Weird Saudi Arabia ain't on that list.

Something no one ever brings up is how great and successful our vetting process already was. 


 
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This was a disaster of an executive order and should be thrown in the dumpster of history.


 
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This was a disaster of an executive order and should be thrown in the dumpster of history.
I'm wondering how long this will go on until something breaks. Something's gonna give, right? We've all heard the numerous buzzings of his advisers freaking out because they cant reign him in.


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Where was the outrage when the Obama administration banned all Iraqi immigrants from entering the country for 6 months in 2011?

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Where was the outrage when the Obama administration banned all Iraqi immigrants from entering the country for 6 months in 2011?

He "banned" (And it's a stretch to use that word) processing of Iraqi refugee requests for a period of 6 months in 2011. He did not create an executive order banning refugees on top of those with visas, green cards, dual-citizenship and other forms of legal travel documentation that holds as much weight as American citizenry.

Any other shitty troll efforts? Maybe bring up Carter?


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Where was the outrage when the Obama administration banned all Iraqi immigrants from entering the country for 6 months in 2011?

A - He "banned" (And it's a stretch to use that word) processing of Iraqi refugee requests for a period of 6 months in 2011. He did not create an executive order banning refugees on top of those with visas, green cards, dual-citizenship and other forms of legal travel documentation.

Any other shitty troll efforts?

A - Suck my fucking meat

B - I love my president. Trump > Dogshit > Obama


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Get used to it faggots. Trump does the same shit Obama does, he gets crucified in the media while Obama golfed


 
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Where was the outrage when the Obama administration banned all Iraqi immigrants from entering the country for 6 months in 2011?

A - He "banned" (And it's a stretch to use that word) processing of Iraqi refugee requests for a period of 6 months in 2011. He did not create an executive order banning refugees on top of those with visas, green cards, dual-citizenship and other forms of legal travel documentation.

Any other shitty troll efforts?

A - Suck my fucking meat

B - I love my president. Trump > Dogshit > Obama

I see you've been proven wrong and simply want to hurl 'witty' retorts ::)

Good to know, saves me some time.


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Where was the outrage when the Obama administration banned all Iraqi immigrants from entering the country for 6 months in 2011?

A - He "banned" (And it's a stretch to use that word) processing of Iraqi refugee requests for a period of 6 months in 2011. He did not create an executive order banning refugees on top of those with visas, green cards, dual-citizenship and other forms of legal travel documentation.

Any other shitty troll efforts?

A - Suck my fucking meat

B - I love my president. Trump > Dogshit > Obama

I see you've been proven wrong and simply want to hurl 'witty' retorts ::)

Good to know, saves me some time.

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Where was the outrage when the Obama administration banned all Iraqi immigrants from entering the country for 6 months in 2011?

A - He "banned" (And it's a stretch to use that word) processing of Iraqi refugee requests for a period of 6 months in 2011. He did not create an executive order banning refugees on top of those with visas, green cards, dual-citizenship and other forms of legal travel documentation.

Any other shitty troll efforts?

A - Suck my fucking meat

B - I love my president. Trump > Dogshit > Obama

I see you've been proven wrong and simply want to hurl 'witty' retorts ::)

Good to know, saves me some time.

Trump is your president for the next 8 years. Cheer up.

Never said otherwise. I look forward to spending my 20's having to correct people like you who spew questionable statements with no ground in fact.


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Where was the outrage when the Obama administration banned all Iraqi immigrants from entering the country for 6 months in 2011?

A - He "banned" (And it's a stretch to use that word) processing of Iraqi refugee requests for a period of 6 months in 2011. He did not create an executive order banning refugees on top of those with visas, green cards, dual-citizenship and other forms of legal travel documentation.

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I see you've been proven wrong and simply want to hurl 'witty' retorts ::)

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Trump is your president for the next 8 years. Cheer up.

Never said otherwise. I look forward to spending my 20's having to correct people like you who spew questionable statements with no ground in fact.

Did Obama ban all Iraqi refugees for six months in 2011. Even those who aided our military. Or not?

Is this a 90 day ban, which is indeed less than Obamas? Yes or no.

 Yes or no. That's all I want, yes or no.



 
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Did Obama ban all Iraqi refugees for six months in 2011. Even those who aided our military. Or not?

Yes, stopped processing application.

Is this a 90 day ban, which is indeed less than Obamas? Yes or no.

No - because it applies to more countries, and more groups of people that are not refugees: Visa holders (Including students at universities), those with a green card, dual-citizens, etc.

Get over yourself with loaded questions.


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Yes, stopped processing application.

Is this a 90 day ban, which is indeed less than Obamas? Yes or no.

No - because it applies to more countries, and more groups of people that are not refugees: Visa holders (Including students at universities), those with a green card, dual-citizens, etc.

Get over yourself with loaded questions.

So yes for both. Thank you.

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I enjoy your username, Icy.

I feel like it's appropriate in this situation


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Yeah, he went too far. One thing I will say. He's getting shit done. That he said he'd do. Even though I don't like the policies. If Hilary had been elected nothing would have changed and she certainly wouldn't have done anything in the time span he has. I just hope he does the good that he said he would. Like crushing ISIS. Which was armed and funded by our previous president. And bush armed the ones before them. But let's not bring that up, right? Why do people call Trump out but not the other presidents? Trump deserves to be called out on this. But no one called out Bush or Obama for numerous bad things they did.


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When the courts ultimately declare this unconstitutional, what punishment could Trump face? And depending on the punishment, how likely is it he'll be punished?


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After all the liberties that have been taken away to "protect" us. I'm sure he can do this.


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There is literally nothing wrong with this.

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There is literally nothing wrong with this.

That's a lie.
No it's not. It's an alternative fact.


 
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Yeah, he went too far. One thing I will say. He's getting shit done. That he said he'd do. Even though I don't like the policies. If Hilary had been elected nothing would have changed and she certainly wouldn't have done anything in the time span he has. I just hope he does the good that he said he would. Like crushing ISIS. Which was armed and funded by our previous president. And bush armed the ones before them. But let's not bring that up, right? Why do people call Trump out but not the other presidents? Trump deserves to be called out on this. But no one called out Bush or Obama for numerous bad things they did.
Well you should know by now that American foreign policy = arming moderates, who later get pissed off because America did something, and they turn against them.

Bush collapsing the Iraqi government and kicking almost everyone out, including an angry military, was the most retarded thing that sped up an already destabilizing region, and thus eventually led to what we have now. Now you could argue him pulling out of Iraq was a bad thing. I'm simply saying going in the first place and handling it like it was, is what mostly got us in this fucked up mess.

I would bet money though that arming the "moderate rebels" in Syria is surely going to ISIS or ISIS affiliated factions, seeing as how they were already shady in the first place. Remember when the war first broke out and for the first two years the media was covering them like freedom fighters?

I even remember CNN doing an interview and they had some prison set up and the guy talking mentioned the one interrogating them was this massively big man who "talked to them" or something like that, when we all know what they were doing. Either way, the reporting in favor of them stopped within the next 6 months or so iirc.

But I heavily digress. If I want to round it all back in

It's mostly because Trump was outright banning people indiscriminately from these 7 countries, even though a lot of them have Visa's and other various means of getting in legally. He overreached with his powers, and the positive thing he DID sign this weekend preventing lobbying for government stuff for the next 5 years if you worked in it, will all be swept under the rug and ignored because he apparently loves the concept of "one step forward, two steps back".


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Yeah, he went too far. One thing I will say. He's getting shit done. That he said he'd do. Even though I don't like the policies. If Hilary had been elected nothing would have changed and she certainly wouldn't have done anything in the time span he has. I just hope he does the good that he said he would. Like crushing ISIS. Which was armed and funded by our previous president. And bush armed the ones before them. But let's not bring that up, right? Why do people call Trump out but not the other presidents? Trump deserves to be called out on this. But no one called out Bush or Obama for numerous bad things they did.
Well you should know by now that American foreign policy = arming moderates, who later get pissed off because America did something, and they turn against them.

Bush collapsing the Iraqi government and kicking almost everyone out, including an angry military, was the most retarded thing that sped up an already destabilizing region, and thus eventually led to what we have now. Now you could argue him pulling out of Iraq was a bad thing. I'm simply saying going in the first place and handling it like it was, is what mostly got us in this fucked up mess.

I would bet money though that arming the "moderate rebels" in Syria is surely going to ISIS or ISIS affiliated factions, seeing as how they were already shady in the first place. Remember when the war first broke out and for the first two years the media was covering them like freedom fighters?

I even remember CNN doing an interview and they had some prison set up and the guy talking mentioned the one interrogating them was this massively big man who "talked to them" or something like that, when we all know what they were doing. Either way, the reporting in favor of them stopped within the next 6 months or so iirc.

But I heavily digress. If I want to round it all back in

It's mostly because Trump was outright banning people indiscriminately from these 7 countries, even though a lot of them have Visa's and other various means of getting in legally. He overreached with his powers, and the positive thing he DID sign this weekend preventing lobbying for government stuff for the next 5 years if you worked in it, will all be swept under the rug and ignored because he apparently loves the concept of "one step forward, two steps back".
It's time for that foreign policy to change. Hopefully, he'll do it. He does want to be more isolationist after all. But even if he does I could see him ramping up the military in the China Seas.


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Hopefully if it keeps up maybe people will start actually doing something about it. Little shakeup wakeup could be used right now I think.

That's the only thing I'll give to Trump. He's rocking the boat and probably gonna make things worse. Which is good. The worse it gets the more people are gonna have to eventually take a stand.


 
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It's time for that foreign policy to change. Hopefully, he'll do it. He does want to be more isolationist after all. But even if he does I could see him ramping up the military in the China Seas.
Change to what? Being isolationist benefits no one. Besides, you're not isolationist while also building up your military.
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