Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:19:45 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:18:24 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:13:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not meSick rebuttal. I liked the part where you called me butthurt and referred to your biased college classes taught by police who want you to view the world the way they do. Nobody likes to go to jail. You gain nothing from it. Deal with it.It's biased because these people profit off of people being in jail. The fact that you think you're an expert because you just started college is hilarious. Would you like to give a reason why people like to go to jail?
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:18:24 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:13:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not meSick rebuttal. I liked the part where you called me butthurt and referred to your biased college classes taught by police who want you to view the world the way they do. Nobody likes to go to jail. You gain nothing from it. Deal with it.
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:13:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not meSick rebuttal. I liked the part where you called me butthurt and referred to your biased college classes taught by police who want you to view the world the way they do. Nobody likes to go to jail. You gain nothing from it. Deal with it.
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not me
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisons
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)
Quote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with others
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.
Quote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very much
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.
Quote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminal
They're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.
It's biased because these people profit off of people being in jail.
The fact that you think you're an expert because you just started college is hilarious. Would you like to give a reason why people like to go to jail?
Quote from: IcyWind on December 10, 2014, 03:24:54 PMKinder, Challenger - once again, cut it with the personal attacks/jabs/whatever you wish to call it.I'm not getting personal, he is. I'm bringing up the fact that he shouldn't consider himself an expert when he's nowhere near it and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
Kinder, Challenger - once again, cut it with the personal attacks/jabs/whatever you wish to call it.
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:39:35 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:28:09 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 10, 2014, 03:24:54 PMKinder, Challenger - once again, cut it with the personal attacks/jabs/whatever you wish to call it.I'm not getting personal, he is. I'm bringing up the fact that he shouldn't consider himself an expert when he's nowhere near it and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.'B-B-BUH I'M INNOCENT, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG"Seriously, get over this victim and I'm always right complex you have. It's oldSo saying the shit you say is ignorant and that you should educate yourself is personal? LOL
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:28:09 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 10, 2014, 03:24:54 PMKinder, Challenger - once again, cut it with the personal attacks/jabs/whatever you wish to call it.I'm not getting personal, he is. I'm bringing up the fact that he shouldn't consider himself an expert when he's nowhere near it and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.'B-B-BUH I'M INNOCENT, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG"Seriously, get over this victim and I'm always right complex you have. It's old
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 04:10:51 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 04:04:03 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:39:35 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:28:09 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 10, 2014, 03:24:54 PMKinder, Challenger - once again, cut it with the personal attacks/jabs/whatever you wish to call it.I'm not getting personal, he is. I'm bringing up the fact that he shouldn't consider himself an expert when he's nowhere near it and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.'B-B-BUH I'M INNOCENT, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG"Seriously, get over this victim and I'm always right complex you have. It's oldSo saying the shit you say is ignorant and that you should educate yourself is personal? LOLOddly enough, I'm getting rather tired of this pissing contest. If you want to talk shit about a person's opinion then sign-up for tumblrComing from the guy that gets offended if somebody tells them to get educated, hilarious. A little bit of humility goes a long way. Try and keep an open mind.
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 04:04:03 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:39:35 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:28:09 PMQuote from: IcyWind on December 10, 2014, 03:24:54 PMKinder, Challenger - once again, cut it with the personal attacks/jabs/whatever you wish to call it.I'm not getting personal, he is. I'm bringing up the fact that he shouldn't consider himself an expert when he's nowhere near it and has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.'B-B-BUH I'M INNOCENT, I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG"Seriously, get over this victim and I'm always right complex you have. It's oldSo saying the shit you say is ignorant and that you should educate yourself is personal? LOLOddly enough, I'm getting rather tired of this pissing contest. If you want to talk shit about a person's opinion then sign-up for tumblr
Quote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:36:09 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:24:04 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:19:45 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:18:24 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:13:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not meSick rebuttal. I liked the part where you called me butthurt and referred to your biased college classes taught by police who want you to view the world the way they do. Nobody likes to go to jail. You gain nothing from it. Deal with it.It's biased because these people profit off of people being in jail. The fact that you think you're an expert because you just started college is hilarious. Would you like to give a reason why people like to go to jail?QuoteIt's biased because these people profit off of people being in jail. I.....I can't fucking.......breath right now. Like........holy shit my sides are fucking gone. Le-........Let me take a minute......to catch up......You know how many people currently reside in private prisons? Let me answer for you, a petty 8% of all prisoners. Do you know who my professors, who are actual experts, work for? Tidewater Community College, not the damn Department of Corrections. Stop trying to pull nonsensical things from your ass already, especially on manners you have no clue aboutQuoteThe fact that you think you're an expert because you just started college is hilarious. Would you like to give a reason why people like to go to jail?Huh, where did I ever say I was an expert? I could't have expected any more from you; falsifying claims and posting with a narcissist personality. AND I just started college as well? Damn, you're on a roll today!I gave you reasons, but your "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" attitude gets in the way of you having the ability to readYour professors get their info from people who support a system which doesn't rehabilitate criminals or reduce crime. Again, learn what narcissist means.
Quote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:24:04 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:19:45 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:18:24 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 03:13:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 03:01:45 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:57:22 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 10, 2014, 02:51:28 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 10, 2014, 02:38:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on December 10, 2014, 09:43:51 AMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 04:47:44 PMQuote from: DAS B(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ on December 09, 2014, 04:10:26 PMQuote from: KletzenbrotEssen on December 09, 2014, 03:24:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on December 09, 2014, 09:02:25 AMThey're people. Rehabilitation is far better than going to a shithole then coming out and living the same lifestyle.Too fucking bad. People are responsible for their actions, nobody else. These same people, no matter how much rehab they will go through, will continue their path of being a career criminalI didn't.Stop acting like you know everything about criminology just because you're a freshman at a school studying it.Ancedotal; Studies show a large portion of former prisoners get rearrested again, one by the BJS showing a staggering 67%http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/rpr94.pdfSophomore, thank-you very muchHas it nevet occurred to you that recidivism is caused by the current paradigm? Which, y'know, barely even touches rehabilitation.If it was, then recidivism would be like 100%. That 43% shows prison either deterred them from making another mistake or they sought help on their own initiative. You can't force a person to change and the only thing you can do is just place them back behind bars if they commit more crime.People, especially cartel and gang members, are not afraid of prison because they still can continue to give orders in the prison and have correspondence with othersCan confirm. All gang members are just itching to go to jail, they were all waiting for the day their freedom would be taken and they couldn't eat good food or drive nice cars or even go hang out with their friends and especially not being able to make any money was the most appealing thing. I'm so proud of you son. :^)You seriously don't understand the mind of a criminal, don't you? Stealing a car or burglarizing a house if it means a couple years in the pen isn't big of a deal for criminals because they look at the long-time rewards for their actions, including respect and a higher position of power within their organizationIf beating up somebody means I would have influence, then I'd do it; same with everybody else You also don't understand the level of corruption in prisonsThere's no long term reward for going to jail. My god, the shit you say is just insanely ignorant. Most everybody turns their back on people who get sent to prison and don't give a shit about them. Why the fuck do you think you always see gangsters writing shit like "free *insert name here*"? Because they like going to jail and there's a long term reward? Get the fuck outta here. Stop reading these bullshit books and go do an interview or watch some interviews and educate yourself. Nobody wants to go to jail.Why, once again, are you so damn butt flustered? Are you the one sitting in criminal justice classes? Are you the one getting a lecture from current and former cops? Are you the one reading criminal justice text books? No? Then you're the insanely ignorant one that says shit, not meSick rebuttal. I liked the part where you called me butthurt and referred to your biased college classes taught by police who want you to view the world the way they do. Nobody likes to go to jail. You gain nothing from it. Deal with it.It's biased because these people profit off of people being in jail. The fact that you think you're an expert because you just started college is hilarious. Would you like to give a reason why people like to go to jail?QuoteIt's biased because these people profit off of people being in jail. I.....I can't fucking.......breath right now. Like........holy shit my sides are fucking gone. Le-........Let me take a minute......to catch up......You know how many people currently reside in private prisons? Let me answer for you, a petty 8% of all prisoners. Do you know who my professors, who are actual experts, work for? Tidewater Community College, not the damn Department of Corrections. Stop trying to pull nonsensical things from your ass already, especially on manners you have no clue aboutQuoteThe fact that you think you're an expert because you just started college is hilarious. Would you like to give a reason why people like to go to jail?Huh, where did I ever say I was an expert? I could't have expected any more from you; falsifying claims and posting with a narcissist personality. AND I just started college as well? Damn, you're on a roll today!I gave you reasons, but your "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" attitude gets in the way of you having the ability to read